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  • TheGentlemanGhost
    MVP
    • Jun 2016
    • 1321

    #286
    Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

    Originally posted by Haz____
    GPD also said the level of Knockdown where you can throw follow up strikes for a KO is extremely rare. There is different "severity" of knockdowns. Most of the time, you'll get a knockdown, and just follow em to the ground to engage in grappling, not to finish the fight.
    They can change this. I think we all saw our fair share of KOs from 1-2 combos. Those should without a doubt be no more than knock downs most of the time instead of straight up KOs. If they can just make that one adjustment, it would be alright. There were way too many KOs from basic jabs and straights.

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    • FCB x Finlay
      MVP
      • Nov 2017
      • 1293

      #287
      Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

      Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
      They can change this. I think we all saw our fair share of KOs from 1-2 combos. Those should without a doubt be no more than knock downs most of the time instead of straight up KOs. If they can just make that one adjustment, it would be alright. There were way too many KOs from basic jabs and straights.
      Should the determinant on the fighter, for example kelvin gastellum may have ko power in 1-2

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      • Nugget7211
        MVP
        • Nov 2017
        • 1401

        #288
        Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

        Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
        Should the determinant on the fighter, for example kelvin gastellum may have ko power in 1-2
        He doesn't starch people though, he drops them and requires follow up shots
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        • FCB x Finlay
          MVP
          • Nov 2017
          • 1293

          #289
          Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

          Originally posted by Nugget7211
          He doesn't starch people though, he drops them and requires follow up shots
          That was just an example, didnt doo ho get a ko with one. But lets be honest not many fights end in a pure ko.

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          • Haz____
            Omaewa mou shindeiru
            • Apr 2016
            • 4023

            #290
            Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

            Originally posted by Nugget7211
            He doesn't starch people though, he drops them and requires follow up shots
            A 1-2 will KO people alllll dayyyy long.


            The issue isn't a 1-2, the issue is you barely ever see walk away ice cold KOs in MMA.


            People getting KOd by baby jabs in UFC 3 is super lame though.
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            • FCB x Finlay
              MVP
              • Nov 2017
              • 1293

              #291
              Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

              Originally posted by Haz____
              A 1-2 will KO people alllll dayyyy long.


              The issue isn't a 1-2, the issue is you barely ever see walk away ice cold KOs in MMA.


              People getting KOd by baby jabs in UFC 3 is super lame though.
              Just the amount of severe knockdowns needs to be increasd. I mean frequency compared to other knockdowns as well as clean kos.

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              • WickeddMMA
                Rookie
                • Nov 2017
                • 154

                #292
                Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                Originally posted by Haz____
                A 1-2 will KO people alllll dayyyy long.


                The issue isn't a 1-2, the issue is you barely ever see walk away ice cold KOs in MMA.


                People getting KOd by baby jabs in UFC 3 is super lame though.
                Yeah idk why people want to completely nerf 1-2s when that combo is embedded into fight "DNA" as being the go to strikes to rock someone and ko someone. I agree that baby jabs shouldn't ko but I do believe stiff jabs should rock someone which it can in real life.

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                • TheGentlemanGhost
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2016
                  • 1321

                  #293
                  Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                  Originally posted by Haz____
                  A 1-2 will KO people alllll dayyyy long.


                  The issue isn't a 1-2, the issue is you barely ever see walk away ice cold KOs in MMA.


                  People getting KOd by baby jabs in UFC 3 is super lame though.
                  Dude, you keep saying this, but it's the furthest thing from the truth. I posted that video just for you and apparently you still have this false reality that walk away KOs are a rarity. What actually proved to be a rarity was fighters getting away with tons of punches after a clean KO. You just want to keep punching people after KOs lol and that's fine and dandy if that's your gripe, but stop trying to claim it's what almost always happens on a clean KO. Both videos even started off with walk away KOs lol.

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                  • Haz____
                    Omaewa mou shindeiru
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4023

                    #294
                    Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                    What video?

                    And no bro. Lets watch this card tomorrow. Lets count how many walk away KOs we see. Im willing to bet the number will be 0.
                    PSN: Lord__Hazanko

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                    • FCB x Finlay
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 1293

                      #295
                      Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                      Originally posted by Haz____
                      What video?

                      And no bro. Lets watch this card tomorrow. Lets count how many walk away KOs we see. Im willing to bet the number will be 0.
                      Disagree when there is a persin called ngannou fighting

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #296
                        Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                        Damn this is still going on? Its simple:

                        - Anyone that claims that fighters regularly take 5-6 punches after a KO blow in real life....is wrong.

                        - Anyone who claims that walkoff KOs occur regularly...is wrong.

                        What occurs regularly is a KO and anywhere between 1-3 follow up blows. Any more and either the ref was out of position or the guy wasnt actually KOd by the knockdown blow.

                        The feature has been removed but GPD said they were looking into way to address this. Lets give the devs some time here.

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                        • Haz____
                          Omaewa mou shindeiru
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4023

                          #297
                          Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                          Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
                          Disagree when there is a persin called ngannou fighting
                          Even a guy as powerful as Ngnannou never had a walk away KO in his life.







                          Last edited by Haz____; 01-19-2018, 10:14 PM.
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                          • Haz____
                            Omaewa mou shindeiru
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 4023

                            #298
                            Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            What occurs regularly is a KO and anywhere between 1-3 follow up blows. Any more and either the ref was out of position or the guy wasnt actually KOd by the knockdown blow..
                            What about something as simple as this? Just an idea..

                            In the game, when a KO happens, RNG a number from 0-3, then after that many follow up strikes, the fight ends.


                            If landing 5+ strikes on a KOd opponent is the problem, don't let us land that many strikes? I don't think anyone is asking for the ability to straight up assault an unconscious body, we just want to emulate the way the sport plays out IRL.
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                            Just an average player, with a passion for Martial Arts & Combat Sports

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                            • TheGentlemanGhost
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 1321

                              #299
                              Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                              Originally posted by Haz____
                              What video?

                              And no bro. Lets watch this card tomorrow. Lets count how many walk away KOs we see. Im willing to bet the number will be 0.
                              The video I posted on page 26 had most the KOs of all of 2017, walk away KOs actually edged out people bashing opponents after a clean KO. There were a few gray area KO/TKOs I omitted but it proved that the walk aways are not uncommon compared to followup on KOs. What was most common were knock downs with follows up. And when a clean KOs with followups happened, almost all but maybe 3 of them only had one followup punch due to the referee getting into the middle of it. This is why I kept saying ref interaction is the only thing really making these KOs awkward since most of the time they stop opponents before they can land an extra 6 or 8 punches.

                              And as I most recently stated, we mostly just need more knock down animations that require followups to finish fights. We do still have FTF (T)KOs, we just need them to trigger more often.
                              Last edited by TheGentlemanGhost; 01-19-2018, 10:23 PM.

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                              • aholbert32
                                (aka Alberto)
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33106

                                #300
                                Re: GPD's official response to Finish the Fight discussion

                                Originally posted by Haz____
                                What about something as simple as this? Just an idea..

                                In the game, when a KO happens, RNG a number from 0-3, then after that many follow up strikes, the fight ends.


                                If landing 5+ strikes on a KOd opponent is the problem, don't let us land that many strikes? I don't think anyone is asking for the ability to straight up assault an unconscious body, we just want to emulate the way the sport plays out IRL.

                                I think that would work as a last gasp thing. I'm hoping GPD has something better in the works.

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