Missing fighters, voice your support!

[aholbert32]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

I'm not saying I expected all of those fighters, obviously not every single fighter will be in. At least half of them would not be on my roster picks, I'm saying those were all that were established by a year ago thereby eligible for consideration in my opinion. There are several on there that have no excuse for not being in and several borderlines that could definitely had been included as well, as you said.

Basically my point is had there been more focus on the roster, there could have been quite a few relevant fighters added that were established well before a cut off but inexplicably many were missed.

I absolutely agree with this.

[Mississippi Mean]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

Jason Knight
Zabit Magomedsharipov
Gokhan Saki
Mairbek Taisumov
Josh Emmett

[holyjesus]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

Add Thiago Santos to the list, he's not in the game

[The Relaxed Guy]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

For the sake of the xbox community's mental health and wellbeing, it's probably best that I not have access to Askren.


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[GoDucks1224]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support! Who do you want as DLC?

I still can’t believe Askren never got signed to the UFC. Dana is so petty.

[MacGowan]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

MISSING

Women's Strawweight - 115lb
10 Cortney Casey
12 Tatiana Suarez
14 Nina Ansaroff
NR Mackenzie Dern
NR Amanda Cooper
NR Ashley Yoder
NR Syuri Kondo
NR Poliana Botelho
NR Jodie Esquibel

Flyweight - 125lb
11 Alexandre Pantoja
12 Matheus Nicolau
14 Deiveson Figueiredo
15 Magomed Bibulatov
NR Jarred Brooks
NR Matthew Lopez
NR Alejandro Perez
NR Ulka Sasaki
NR Hector Sandoval

Women's Flyweight - 125lb
C Nicco Montano
2 Sijara Eubanks
5 Roxanne Modafferi
6 Barb Honchak
8 Katlyn Chookagian
9 Jessica-Rose Clark
12 Mara Romero Borella
14 Montana De La Rosa
15 Rachael Ostovich
NR Andrea Lee
NR Veronica Macedo
NR Lauren Mueller
NR Shana Dobson
NR Ariel Beck

Bantamweight - 135lb
10 Pedro Munhoz
11 Cody Stamann
12 Rob Font
14 Brett Johns
NR Matthew Lopez
NR Marlon Vera
NR Douglas Silva de Andrade
NR Rani Yahya
NR Sean O'Malley
NR Andre Soukhamthath
NR Augusto Mendes
NR Brian Kelleher
NR Luke Sanders
NR Patrick Williams
NR Merab Dvalishvili
NR Ricky Simon
NR Diego Rivas
NR Guido Cannetti
NR Henry Briones
NR Manny Bermudez
NR Davey Grant

Women's Bantamweight - 135lb
4 Ketlen Vieira
10 Aspen Ladd
12 Irene Aldana
13 Lucie Pudilova
14 Sarah Moras
15 Lina Lansberg
NR Yana Kunitskaya
NR Tonya Evinger

Featherweight - 145lb
6 Josh Emmett
14 Zabit Magomedsharipov
NR Artem Lobov
NR Jason Knight
NR Andre Fili
NR Godofredo Pepey
NR Shane Burgos
NR Sheymon Moraes
NR Chas Skelly
NR Rick Glenn
NR Jared Gordon
NR Ryan Hall
NR Mike Santiago
NR Dan Ige
NR Humberto Bandenay
NR Enrique Barzola
NR Brandon Davis
NR Mads Burnell
NR Arnold Allen
NR Julio Arce

Women's Featherweight - 145lb
NR Megan Anderson

Lightweight - 155lb
13 Alexander Hernandez
NR Mairbek Taisumov
NR David Teymur
NR Lando Vannata
NR Francisco Trinaldo
NR Gleison Tibau
NR John Makdessi
NR Erik Koch
NR James Krause
NR Alex White
NR Carlos Diego Ferreira
NR Islam Makhachev
NR Marco Polo Reyes
NR Dong Hyun Kim (Maestro)
NR Gregor Gillespie
NR Marcin Held
NR Michel Prazeres
NR Kajan Johnson
NR Stevie Ray
NR Darrell Horcher
NR Darkkar Klose
NR Martin Bravo
NR Nick Hein
NR Alan Patrick
NR Davi Ramos
NR Dan Moret
NR Claudio Puelles
NR Felipe Silva
NR Vinc Pichel
NR Gregor Gillespie

Welterweight - 170lb
NR Mike Perry
NR Emil Meek
NR Nordine Taleb
NR Belal Muhammed
NR Vicente Luque
NR Zak Cummings
NR Warlley Alves
NR Sean Strickland
NR Li Jingliang
NR Siyar Bahadurzada
NR Bryan Barberena
NR Randy Brown
NR Joshua Burkman
NR Luan Chagas
NR Alex Garcia
NR Lyman Good
NR Court McGee
NR Alberto Mina
NR Sergio Moraes
NR Alex Morono
NR Nico Musoke
NR Abdul Razak Alhassan
NR Danny Roberts
NR Alexander Yakovlev
NR Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos
NR Mike Jackson
NR Muslim Salikhov
NR Ricky Rainey
NR Yushin Okami
NR Dhiego Lima
NR Tony Martin
NR Keita Nakamura
NR Chad Laprise
NR Salim Touahri
NR Bradley Scott
NR Claudio Silva

Middleweight - 185lb
8 David Branch
11 Thiago Santos
14 Paulo Costa
NR Eryk Anders
NR Antonio Carlos Jr.
NR Jack Marshman
NR Jack Hermansson
NR Gerald Meerschaert
NR Alessio Di Chirico
NR Eric Spicely
NR Karl Roberson
NR Marvin Vettori
NR Israel Adesanya
NR Trevor Smith

Light Heavyweight - 205lb
12 Tyson Pedro
13 Gadzhimurad Antigulov
15 Jordan Johnson
NR Anthony Smith
NR Khalil Rountree
NR Jared Cannonier
NR Francismar Barroso
NR Ion Cutelaba
NR Devin Clark
NR Dominick Reyes

Heavyweight - 265lb
4 Curtis Blaydes
8 Marcin Tybura
12 Tai Tuivasa
13 Shamil Abdurakhimov
14 Junior Albini
15 Justin Ledet
NR Shamil Abdurakhimov
NR Walt Harris
NR Mark Godbeer
NR Rashad Coulter
NR Allen Crowder
NR Arjan Singh Bhullar
NR Adam Wieczorek
NR Chase Sherman
NR Justin Willis
NR Daniel Spitz

To me as a lover of sports games this is just insane. I can find awful Norwegian fotball teams in FIFA, or some 17 year old prospect no one has or will ever care about in NHL. Yet in UFC3 (also a EA SPORTS game) We are lacking a damn world champion, not to mention her entire division.

I think EA SPORTS is attacking this the wrong way. Sometimes they treat it as a "fighting game" and sometimes a "sports game". (UFC 3 is nowhere to be found under the category FIGHTING on PS4 store. It's under SPORTS)

But then they build the roster like a big arcade game, with lots of emphasis on looks, animation, and uniqueness, while half of the entire UFC roster is left in the dark.

we keep getting these patches that add 3(!) fighters here, and there. But we'll always be playing catch up. By the time we get our Zabit/Sugar Sean, or the ranked fighters like Blaydes/Emmett, other brand new prospects and contenders will be fresh in our minds. (Did I mention we are lacking a whole division?)

I wish they could do a few things to correct this.
1. Streamline the fighter creation process

Emil Meek does not need a MoCap. He's unranked and has a traditional style. I'm sure that a middle ground can be found to create him. EA could build Emil Meek with the moves, animations that are already there. And of course they have a better Gameface system in-house that could be put to quick use. I'd be okay with, say Rani Yahya looking as "bad" as Aaron Pico under here. If Emil KO's someone big, THEN you can add him to the "unique fighter designs".


2. More customisations and CAF space

OR....it would take the Operation Sports forum 20 minutes to create a CAF of Emil Meek, although not a very well representation, but that is due to the tools available. what about just giving us a gameface system that actually works? more CAF space and a fighter customisation that has more than 30 wigs? those pictures above is what creators here can do already. If we had more than 22 slots we could actually build the divisions up and put out more CAF threads, right now it's pretty limited.


3. Division and Champion customisations


EA is also behind the ball on divisions and champions. Right now it's Mighty Mouse vs Benavidez in flyweight when you open it up. we all know Benavidez is fighting Pettis. and why can't we see Mighty Mouse holding his belt, or assign an interim belt to anyone? and have a unification bout? Or move a fighter up and down a weightclass? They even have Cyborg as a NON title holder in BANTAMWEIGHT

Just give the player the option of setting things up the way they want it.
And treat the rosters like any other sports game and fill it out.




EDIT: I realise there's also an issue with audio; Bruce Buffer, and Jon Anik saying fighter names. But that's an issue they'll have to figure out regardless of this. Now with Joe Rogan stating he won't do anymore voice over. They can't have commentators saying hundreds of names, just as they can't in NHL.

[R4Zk]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support! Who do you want as DLC?

Its all over

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[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

MacGowan that post is awesome and should possibly be its own thread, I didn't quote it for obvious reasons though haha.

On a side note, hoping the next patch adds a selection of Blaydes, Santos, Branch, Costa, Pedro, Font, Munhoz and Casey. I do hope Zabit and O'Malley make it in before the patch cycle ends but there's definitely people who needa be added before them.

[aholbert32]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

MacGowan that post is awesome and should possibly be its own thread, I didn't quote it for obvious reasons though haha.

On a side note, hoping the next patch adds a selection of Blaydes, Santos, Branch, Costa, Pedro, Font, Munhoz and Casey. I do hope Zabit and O'Malley make it in before the patch cycle ends but there's definitely people who needa be added before them.

I find it interesting the fighters that people want on OS compared to other sites like Reddit/Facebook/Twitter. For example, Casey is probably not on anyone's list outside of OS and other hardcore sites. She also is a cut candidate if she loses on Saturday even though she is ranked right now.

[aholbert32]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

MISSING

To me as a lover of sports games this is just insane. I can find awful Norwegian fotball teams in FIFA, or some 17 year old prospect no one has or will ever care about in NHL. Yet in UFC3 (also a EA SPORTS game) We are lacking a damn world champion, not to mention her entire division.

I think EA SPORTS is attacking this the wrong way. Sometimes they treat it as a "fighting game" and sometimes a "sports game". (UFC 3 is nowhere to be found under the category FIGHTING on PS4 store. It's under SPORTS)

But then they build the roster like a big arcade game, with lots of emphasis on looks, animation, and uniqueness, while half of the entire UFC roster is left in the dark.

we keep getting these patches that add 3(!) fighters here, and there. But we'll always be playing catch up. By the time we get our Zabit/Sugar Sean, or the ranked fighters like Blaydes/Emmett, other brand new prospects and contenders will be fresh in our minds. (Did I mention we are lacking a whole division?)

Here is my issue with that:

The community doesnt know what they want. Look at the posts when this game came out. There were tons of people who were pissed that Poirier's hair was wrong and upset about missing tattoos. They want fighter specificity down to their tats. At the same time, they want a constant roll out of new fighters.

Given the resources, they cant have both.

The FIFA and NHL comparisons dont exactly work. Sure, I can find a player on the Norwegian team or a 17 yr old prospect on some junior league team in NHL....but that player will likely have a generic face. It will just be a name, number and some stats.

EA tried that approach a little with UFC 1. The majority of DLC fighters in UFC 1 were created through the CAF engine and people ****ted all over them. They complained that the roster fighters looked significantly better than the DLC fighters. So EA stopped using the CAF engine for DLC fighters in UFC 2.

So they likely could add alot of those fighters on your list to the game....if they could just use generic fighters likenesses. Just make a black dude with a big body type and random tats for Walt Harris.

But that isnt what we want. I can make a generic Walt Harris using CAF and Gameface. We want someone who looks exactly like the fighters. We want someone with his tats and his exact body type. It takes time to get that. Especially when the community is also demanding updates of current fighters in the game.

[MacGowan]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

I find it interesting the fighters that people want on OS compared to other sites like Reddit/Facebook/Twitter. For example, Casey is probably not on anyone's list outside of OS and other hardcore sites. She also is a cut candidate if she loses on Saturday even though she is ranked right now.

I'm just surprised, since other sport games add athletes regardless of popularity. They understand the need to have a very large depth. Prospects today might be challengers in 6 months. And challengers today might be cut in 6 months. It's so annoying to se the "live picks" have like "Cyborg vs Blank face for the bantamweight championship"

Especially as a guy who wold loves season mode/manager mode/universe mode in other sports games.

[Zeta Reticulan1]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

I could care less about the chicks. Israel Adesanya, Paulo Costa. And no Gleison Tibau?

[MacGowan]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

The FIFA and NHL comparisons dont exactly work. Sure, I can find a player on the Norwegian team or a 17 yr old prospect on some junior league team in NHL....but that player will likely have a generic face. It will just be a name, number and some stats.

People don't care about the norwegian team, nor the 17 year old prospect. they DO care about the depth in those games. The 300 most important fighters can look great. the 300 less important can be more generic to add depth. It would allow people to set up their own mirror ppvs and play it through. Or in the future have manager and universe mode. What I'm arguing is the same overall system as in the other EA SPORTS games.

Of course people want dustin poirier to look awesome, but no one complains that the john moraga model looks like crap. Because he's not that popular.

when I say I want them to extend CAF customisation, that would entail more hair styles and tattooes. Maybe you could add a working gameface for tattoos too.

In any case that system would work fast inhouse, allowing them to create quality models of lower tier fighters at a reasonable pace.

[aholbert32]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

People don't care about the norwegian team, nor the 17 year old prospect. they DO care about the depth in those games. The 300 most important fighters can look great. the 300 less important can be more generic to add depth. It would allow people to set up their own mirror ppvs and play it through. Or in the future have manager and universe mode. What I'm arguing is the same overall system as in the other EA SPORTS games

Actually people in Norway care about that team. People who play with that team want the 17 yr old prospect.

My point is that those players generally dont care if EA uses a generic face for those players. They dont care if he doesnt have his tats. So those players are easier to add.

UFC fans do care about that.

So while you may be cool with Mike Perry having generic tats and not looking like himself.....hundreds/thousands of people would have an issue with it and criticize the game for his appearance.

[MacGowan]

Re: Missing fighters, voice your support!

So while you may be cool with Mike Perry having generic tats and not looking like himself.....hundreds/thousands of people would have an issue with it and criticize the game for his appearance.

Edited my last post. sorry. it answers this point