Fighter AI Realism vs Difficulty

[Skynet]

Re: Fighter AI Realism vs Difficulty

I have no qualms talking about the existing templates. There are currently 7:

Striker
Brawler
Muay Thai
Greco
Wrestler
Sub Specialist (BJJ-ish)
Ground and Pound

Outside of the fighters with custom AIs, every fighter is assigned to one of these 7. Actually, I think a bunch of fighters are assigned to someone else's custom AI as well, since they better represent the fighter that the templates would.

Now that you mention it....we don't have a specific balanced template. Curious. Guess it never really came up? Odd oversight, perhaps? During production, one of our big goals was to have noticeable and meaningful fighter differentiation, so perhaps we just avoided a default all-rounder for that reason. I honestly can't remember.

[Skynet]

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WB's too aggressive IMO, he should be a super patient counterstriker who you can literally have snoozers with if you don't engage him. I really would like to see atleast ONE AI like that dang nabbit. I know its not a popular idea. But c'mooon, just one?

Working on it, mate. Hopefully something comes of it

[Skynet]

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Did any fighter templates get corrected or changed in the last patch??

These can actually be updated in tuner sets....I think. I'm not sure if any were, but I can double check. If not, hopefully I can convince the powers that be to do so in an upcoming tuner.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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Working on it, mate. Hopefully something comes of it

Ooooo!!

I've said it before and I'll say it again,

You are the man.

[TB5XSBW]

Re: Fighter AI Realism vs Difficulty

Working on it, mate. Hopefully something comes of it

That would be fantastic.

[MeowingForVengeance]

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Now that you mention it....we don't have a specific balanced template. Curious. Guess it never really came up? Odd oversight, perhaps? During production, one of our big goals was to have noticeable and meaningful fighter differentiation, so perhaps we just avoided a default all-rounder for that reason. I honestly can't remember.

Interesting! I brought up a 'balanced' AI only because some fighters, like GSP, have that listed as their style in the game. But it's helpful to know there's a difference between CAF types and generic AI types.

[Phillyboi207]

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I think AI strike output needs to be adjusted because of the tuner

Or at least on real time vs accelerated.

Too easy to gas them out. I also think they throw too many naked pushes.

It should be mainly used in between/ at the end of combos.

[aholbert32]

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I think AI strike output needs to be adjusted because of the tuner

Or at least on real time vs accelerated.

Too easy to gas them out. I also think they throw too many naked pushes.

It should be mainly used in between/ at the end of combos.

Have you used the stamina sliders?

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Fighter AI Realism vs Difficulty

Have you used the stamina sliders?

I think they gas out appropriately based on their output

Woodley threw like 200+ total strikes in 3 rounds and like 120 sig strikes.

A lot of it was me faking coming forward and feinting and he would respond with hard combos or occasional overhands to thin air

Just felt like he was too willing to exchange/counter vs waiting for me to come all the way in.

This is on legendary btw.

Any AI’s I should try to see if they fight at a slower pace?

[AeroZeppelin27]

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I wouldn't be adverse to a slight output drop on Pro/Lengendary myself but I'm always for less output.

Though I do think Woodleys current AI moves forward a looooot and throws too much, but mainly, he comes forward too much.

However, I will agree that the harder AI's Bute HARD on fients, to the point of throwing 3 strike combos that don't have a chance of landing.

Not always, but boxers in particular seem to bite hard on punch fients with combos.

As for passive AIs.

Ketlen Viera can occasionally be incredibly passive, in a fantastic way, if you hand back and slowly use footwork and feelers, she will oblige.

Machida can be passive. But he can also walk you down and regularly throw single strikes.

Anderson should be super passive. But instead he fights like we all wish he did IRL.

Jon Jones can be very passive if you oblige.

Gunnar Nelson, that's all my tired butt can think of atm lol.

Passive striker AI's still hold their gas very very well, but grapplers won't if your stuffing the TD's simply because they don't give it up.

[aholbert32]

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I think they gas out appropriately based on their output

Woodley threw like 200+ total strikes in 3 rounds and like 120 sig strikes.

A lot of it was me faking coming forward and feinting and he would respond with hard combos or occasional overhands to thin air

Just felt like he was too willing to exchange/counter vs waiting for me to come all the way in.

This is on legendary btw.

Any AI’s I should try to see if they fight at a slower pace?

Legendary is tough because I think the game was tuned for Pro and Hard.

[Phillyboi207]

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Legendary is tough because I think the game was tuned for Pro and Hard.

I’ll give them both a chance then.

I can always just increase cpu grappling sliders if that part becomes easier

[aholbert32]

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I’ll give them both a chance then.

I can always just increase cpu grappling sliders if that part becomes easier

Try Pro. I've moved up from hard (striking was too easy) and tweaked the stamina sliders a bit.

[Phillyboi207]

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Try Pro. I've moved up from hard (striking was too easy) and tweaked the stamina sliders a bit.

Bruh I just got finished in the first round lmao

Pro >>>> Legendary

They’re too aggressive on legendary

Imma run it back

Edit: 2nd round 2ko win. Strangely enough the cpu almost seemed better grappling wise. Got stuck in crucifix and they denied literally everything

[dfab14]

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I feel like the game is geared more for the accelerated clock and that's disappointing I've always enjoyed real time clock I just feel like I'm lucky to see the 3rd round unless I force a grapple heavy gameplan. I would like the ai to maybe feint more maybe it would lower the output (even though they count as missed strikes) and feel more true to life.

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