EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

[WarMMA]

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So after last night, I think there's little doubt that Kamaru Usman is probably the best wrestler at WW currently and last nights performance is worthy of a few upgrades. First, i'd say he needs a couple more perks and perk upgrades. Work Horse and Crushing Presence are needed for sure, and an upgrade for Wrestle Clinic. Then for his grappling stats, clinch throws, clinch grapple, takedown, top game and submission defense all should go up by a point or two.

My recommendations...

Perks
Wrestle Clinic Upgrade to Lvl 4

Crushing Presence Lvl 4

Work Horse Lvl 4

Stats

Clinch Throws: +1

Clinch Grapple: +1

Takedown: +1

Top Game: +1

Submission Defense: +3

[AeroZeppelin27]

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Some stat suggestions from last night's card.

Usman:
I agree with WarMMA's suggestions.

Though I'd like to see +2 or +3 clinch grapple.

As well as
+2 striking stamina (91>93)
+5 grappling stamina. (92>97)

Woodley:

Bottom game from 89 to 87.

That's about it for T-Wood, I'd personally like to see Usman buffed in the areas he was dominant over Woodley getting nerfed outside of maybe bottom game.

Jon Jones:

Speed 93>95

This is probably controversial, but Jones feels extremely sluggish due to his reach and the reach frame stuff, whereas IRL he is incredibly fast and generally throws single strikes and feints over combinations.

I'd happily see his power dropped to 87 to compensate but I understand why this is an unlikely change.

Jeremy Stephens:
Striking Stamina 89>90
Endurance 88>90
Accuracy 88>87

I also wouldn't be mad at +1 striking speed personally.

Zabit:
A few light grappling buffs maybe for when he ragdolled Jeremy around in the 2nd, but I have nothing here TBH.

Robbie Lawler:
Slam Boost level 5.

I'm joking, but he does have a free perk slot.. :P.

Hickey Gall:
Bottom game 90>86.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is the second time we've seen him present minimal offence off his back no?

Striking Stamina 85>83
Endurance 86>85

And that's about all I've got off the top of my head, as always feel free to correct me if wrong or debate and of this, just suggestions.

Good god I hope we are getting more tuners, the next one will be STACKED. Everything from UFC on ESPN 1 to UFC 235.

[RomeroXVII]

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Some stat suggestions from last night's card.

Usman:
I agree with WarMMA's suggestions.

Though I'd like to see +2 or +3 clinch grapple.

As well as
+2 striking stamina (91>93)
+5 grappling stamina. (92>97)

Woodley:

Bottom game from 89 to 87.

That's about it for T-Wood, I'd personally like to see Usman buffed in the areas he was dominant over Woodley getting nerfed outside of maybe bottom game.

Jon Jones:

Speed 93>95

This is probably controversial, but Jones feels extremely sluggish due to his reach and the reach frame stuff, whereas IRL he is incredibly fast and generally throws single strikes and feints over combinations.

I'd happily see his power dropped to 87 to compensate but I understand why this is an unlikely change.

Jeremy Stephens:
Striking Stamina 89>90
Endurance 88>90
Accuracy 88>87

I also wouldn't be mad at +1 striking speed personally.

Zabit:
A few light grappling buffs maybe for when he ragdolled Jeremy around in the 2nd, but I have nothing here TBH.

Robbie Lawler:
Slam Boost level 5.

I'm joking, but he does have a free perk slot.. :P.

Hickey Gall:
Bottom game 90>86.

Correct me if I'm wrong but this is the second time we've seen him present minimal offence off his back no?

Striking Stamina 85>83
Endurance 86>85

And that's about all I've got off the top of my head, as always feel free to correct me if wrong or debate and of this, just suggestions.

Good god I hope we are getting more tuners, the next one will be STACKED. Everything from UFC on ESPN 1 to UFC 235.

I'm up for everything except for the T Wood nerf. Simply because, who else has done that to him?

Zabit should get absolutely nothing, he's already accurately represented in game, and he was the favorite in the fight, nothing he showed wasn't expected of him, except maybe him slowing down in Round 3.

[WarMMA]

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I'm up for everything except for the T Wood nerf. Simply because, who else has done that to him?

Zabit should get absolutely nothing, he's already accurately represented in game, and he was the favorite in the fight, nothing he showed wasn't expected of him, except maybe him slowing down in Round 3.

Yh agreed. I may be being a little biased cuz Woodley is one of my favs, but yh he doesn't need a debuff from bottom. Like you said, no one has ever done that to him. Hell, before this fight, dude had only been taken down once by Rory. Usman is obviously just a whole different animal.

[RomeroXVII]

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Yh agreed. I may be being a little biased cuz Woodley is one of my favs, but yh he doesn't need a debuff from bottom. Like you said, no one has ever done that to him. Hell, before this fight, dude had only been taken down once by Rory. Usman is obviously just a whole different animal.

What people haven't realized, is the Greco Background of Usman, and the fact that he is a D2 National Champ. People try to say there's a huge difference between D1 and D2, but the only difference is money.

My friend Cross Cannone is a D3 National Champ for Wartburg @149, and he's beaten D1 All Americans, generally, the champs at the D2/D3 Level can absolutely hang at the D1 Level and beat them. Back then, if you won the NJCAA/D3/D2 Nationals, you were given a wildcard to the D1 NCAAs. Wish they would do that now.


But yeah, Woodley is a 5th place D1 All American, which is great, but his style when he wrestled is similar to how he fights, defensive and capitalizes on those spurts. And IIRC, he never really did much Greco.

Usman, on top of winning being 2010 NCAA Division II national champion, he was also a member of the University World Team that same year, and was a beast in Greco and, also trains with Greg Jones (3x D1 National Champ). Through a stint of Greco-Roman training, Usman’s dreams of making the Olympic team were dashed on account of more persistent injuries, but make no mistake, his clinch work is how he wore Woodley out, and he should have the highest clinch grapple in the division, as well as a boost to his Clinch Levels/Double Unders/Over Unders.

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[WarMMA]

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Yh well after a performance like that, you can't argue that he shouldn't have the best. Usman is easily the best wrestler/grappler at WW right now imo. His clinch was definitely how he wore Woodley out and then even more with his crushing top game, once he got the td. I mean dude had Woodley mounted for almost the entire 2nd round and he couldn't escape.

[RomeroXVII]

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What people haven't realized, is the Greco Background of Usman, and the fact that he is a D2 National Champ. People try to say there's a huge difference between D1 and D2, but the only difference is money.

My friend Cross Cannone is a D3 National Champ for Wartburg @149, and he's beaten D1 All Americans, generally, the champs at the D2/D3 Level can absolutely hang at the D1 Level and beat them. Back then, if you won the NJCAA/D3/D2 Nationals, you were given a wildcard to the D1 NCAAs. Wish they would do that now.


But yeah, Woodley is a 5th place D1 All American, which is great, but his style when he wrestled is similar to how he fights, defensive and capitalizes on those spurts. And IIRC, he never really did much Greco.

Usman, on top of winning being 2010 NCAA Division II national champion, he was also a member of the University World Team that same year, and was a beast in Greco and, also trains with Greg Jones (3x D1 National Champ). Through a stint of Greco-Roman training, Usman’s dreams of making the Olympic team were dashed on account of more persistent injuries, but make no mistake, his clinch work is how he wore Woodley out, and he should have the highest clinch grapple in the division, as well as a boost to his Clinch Levels/Double Unders/Over Unders.

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Speaking of all this, it is a crime for his Single Leg Takedowns actually, ALL of his TDS are 1s and 2s. His Takedowns should be level 3s, with his Body Lock high being a Level 4 since he got that on Woodley who has one of the highest takedown defense percentages in the division.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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Speaking of all this, it is a crime for his Single Leg Takedowns actually, ALL of his TDS are 1s and 2s. His Takedowns should be level 3s, with his Body Lock high being a Level 4 since he got that on Woodley who has one of the highest takedown defense percentages in the division.

I dunno which is the bigger crime, that or the fact that it's probably not getting fixed until UFC 4.

And that makes me so salty I need to go sit in the baby corner. ugh.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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I'm not gonna cover everyone for obvious reasons but my few stat change recommendations after Wichita are:

Derrick Lewis:
Footwork 90>85
Why was it ever 90!?

JDS:
Unchanged.

And that's like all I've got.

[RomeroXVII]

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I'm not gonna cover everyone for obvious reasons but my few stat change recommendations after Wichita are:

Derrick Lewis:
Footwork 90>85
Why was it ever 90!?

JDS:
Unchanged.

And that's like all I've got.

They need to get to everybody else before they get on the barren HW division.


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[AeroZeppelin27]

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They need to get to everybody else before they get on the barren HW division.


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Oh 100% B.

I'm just lumping this on to the now gargantuan mound of requests, though I was admittedly hesitant as the backlog is freaking stupid at this point.

Here's hoping we get a tuner this week but I'm expecting to be disappointed again.

[xtremeba1000]

Re: EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

I'm not gonna cover everyone for obvious reasons but my few stat change recommendations after Wichita are:

Derrick Lewis:
Footwork 90>85
Why was it ever 90!?

JDS:
Unchanged.

And that's like all I've got.

Derrick had a torn ACL before the fight

[AeroZeppelin27]

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Derrick had a torn ACL before the fight

Yeah I heard that too.

But who throws that many switch and jump kicks with a torn ACL, MCL and a bad back?

As for footwork, I don't think it should've ever been 90 to be honest.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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It feels weird not posting or seeing a ton of recommendations after a good card.

Bring back the tuners! How hard would it be for them to check these threads. Cherry pick the best suggestions and implement them? Or just add in the recommendations Aholbert sends through.

I just think its foolish abandon the game completely now the patch cycle is over when there is a viable option to keep the game somewhat relevant while we wait for UFC 4.

[RomeroXVII]

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It feels weird not posting or seeing a ton of recommendations after a good card.

Bring back the tuners! How hard would it be for them to check these threads. Cherry pick the best suggestions and implement them? Or just add in the recommendations Aholbert sends through.

I just think its foolish abandon the game completely now the patch cycle is over when there is a viable option to keep the game somewhat relevant while we wait for UFC 4.

I know man. It sucks. We deserve a final tuner.

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