I hope a lesson can be learned here

[Haz____]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I don't really agree. Those arent the new standards that everyone else should be meeting. Those games will sell regardless as to whether they have the kind of interaction you'd like to see. That's probably why you are not seeing any of that.

This isn't a community manager keeping the people informed, its a developer taking time out of his day to read your suggestions and feedback to try and deliver the best game possible. It's not like he is going to get paid anything extra if he interacts with any of us here. Unlike a community manager. Maybe they are the same to you, to me they are very different.

I honestly don't even know how he kept it up this long anyway.

Again, just look at Paragon, Fortnight, Warframe, etc.

Those DEVS communicate with the community constantly.

This really isnt that crazy these days.

This thread isnt about that anyway. Wow. Can we stop derailing the real discussion here?

[GameplayDevUFC]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Again, just look at Paragon, Fortnight, Warframe, etc.

Those DEVS communicate with the community constantly.

This really isnt that crazy these days.

This thread isnt about that anyway. Wow. Can we stop derailing the real discussion here?

Right, the thread was about how I should be punished.

Let's stay on track people.

[FCB x Finlay]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Right, the thread was about how I should be punished.

Let's stay on track people.

Thats 1 point adressed about his whole post, but that is a bit extreme

[EJ_Manuel]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Just won 9 out 10 fights on Div 4 spamming counter hooks and uppercuts. lol. Do I feel good about it? Not really, but eventually you have to game the game.

[Haz____]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Right, the thread was about how I should be punished.

Let's stay on track people.

This thread is about the things that disappoint us within the game.. And why.

Its also about whether that disappointment is valid, and whether this game went in the right or wrong direction.

[v22CD]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Right, the thread was about how I should be punished.

Let's stay on track people.

I vote Chinese water torture......


We love you really GPD!!

[mannyonelover]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Right, the thread was about how I should be punished.



Let's stay on track people.

I don’t agree with the thread makers complete view, in no way shape or form should you be punished that is completely absurd, this is a fantastic game that has some setbacks, my idea was to create a better atmosphere and have a better comprehensive way of exchanging our ideas and give you a better platform to express yours , might I say give you the stage and microphone, where we can read your take on what you’ve read on one single thread! Kind of pick your Brain.


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[Dave_S]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

There was a single moderator on an entire forum with outdated software. The NHL board had 6-7 people moderating it at that time.

Trolls could make newer accounts faster than I could ban their old one, or delete their posts (all had to be done manually).

You are going to put that **** on me? Lol.

I was pretty active on the old forum, putting that on Yari is insane. I actually almost felt bad for him.


About the high level play on this game, in the older games most "high level" play and cheese could be combated with many different techniques and styles. I'm not sure if that's possible possible in this game, but it's still new.


As far as punishments for EA, I would probably give SkyNet, GPD and some others an ice cream treat. Whoever came up with hundreds of hard combos has to write a 500 word essay about what they did wrong. The audio team would get their names on the board with a couple check marks. The team that came up with roster and didn't update some fighters would get letters of admonishment and no treats for a week.

[WarMMA]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Ok so the game definitely isn't perfect. Like all games, there are some fixes that need to be in place after release. There are a few things we could all agree on need fixes or tweaking. But the game has come a long way and these devs have definitely done some revolutionary stuff. I feel like the game will get better with time, but some blue prints have to be followed also. There are patches to come with this title also guys. Lets see what will be done before they put their focus fully on a next title.

[bcelts]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

That's my biggest problem here too (I know I said I wouldn't come back to this thread but I couldn't help myself).

My argument has always been that you want to appease the hard core fans because they will spread positive word of mouth on the game to people who respect their expert opinion on the genre.

So I fight hard to make the changes the hard core community wants (remember the calls to remove parries) and when we finally deliver a quality game (better than any previous in my opinion) that hits many of the the things the hard core community wanted (a community which is small compared to the rest of the broader consumer base), the community bad mouths the game at every opportunity.

So why try and target the hard core again? if they don't actually advocate for the game, but instead turn people away from it.

This is what we don’t want to happen. The game is so much better than the last ones standup. Each game has improved a lot. I don’t want a game that doesn’t target the hardcore mma fan. GPD keep striving for what you were aiming to do!

[Serengeti1]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I dont care about cheese. I dont care about winning either. Im not a competitive player, or a serious ranked player.

What I care about is the ability to play the game in a way that emulates real MMA. Which is not possible right now.

lol. Love that you just gave your straight up opinion in this thread. For all the unnecessary, annoying, hateful **** you'll sometimes see on here... There's also a lot of *** kissing. It is what it is. GPD has been really cool and everyone respects him and his efforts. There are also plenty of things I don't like about the game. The input delay (start up frames... illusions... whatever it is) really does ruin your ability to time things. The safest thing to do I've found is to go head on at your opponent and Mike Tyson then before they can you lol.

One thing UFC 2 definitely did better was make me feel more in control of the game.

[MadChendez]

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I know I'm jumping in this late. And I don't totally agree with the OP but there comes a point where you have to admit that there is a reason why there are so many negative threads.

Sure there are your typical whiners that aren't going to be happy regardless of what you do, but they are definatley the minority.

I think peoples frustration lies with the fact that we have waited 2 years for a release only to be told "it will improve with patches" or "wait for ufc 4". I mean I may be wrong but surely should a game be complete when it is release not fraught with issues that we have to wait to be fixed?

By no means do I think that everyone on this forum should be appeased because we disagree with another on most things aka. Leg kicks. But you have to admit there are issues when 9/10 threads are negative.

Then you look at how this game was sold to us. Take the career mode for example which I believe to be the most egregious mis-selling of a game mode ever. For the last two titles people have called for weigh ins and press conferences and this was shown in the trailers and talked up. Only to find that this would only be included in a cut scene.

The striking system was heralded as this breakthrough that would change combat games. But with it came just as many problems as the last.

Nothing is ever going to be perfect but when you wait for 2 years for a game that was in many ways mis-sold it is incredibly frustrating. And I think this is reflected in the mood on the forum.

I appreciate that the devs and GC's are in communication with us and I do not in any regard feel entitled to that. However, should it really be that the only way we can get this game on track is through 6 months worth of patches due to complaints of people on a forum?

It just seems kind of backwards. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I'm in the minority on this. But as a die hard mma fan and practitioner this doesn't feel like the giant leap towards realism we were sold. And that is also reflected in the mma community on forums such as the underground. These guys are solely mma fans and they are saying the same things we are.

[HypeRNT]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

Criticism isn't hoping someone gets punished for developing a product you personally don't like.

You shouldn't be comparing product from company A to product from Company B.

Nothing about your criticism is even constructive, the development team has heard your voice, they understand the problems and they're well aware MMA games are a niche fighting game that caters to a small and quite clearly a melodramatic player base, that small crowd isn't even represented by the small number of active users here in this forum.

By punishment i dont mean physical violence, im simply asking for consequences to the people who are higher ups making these decisions, because someone has to answer for the many mistakes and wild decisions that have been made on this game, like adding roster fighters in UT mode, or adding many STATS into 1 category, going 2 steps back from previous game instead of going the right direction and even adding more unique categories for us to fight in a more unique style.

And there is nothing wrong with comparing different company's that make the same game.... Its a fair point to ask for features that previous games had that the new games dont have... If people are asking for them, then we should get them... Or at least give a proper reason why older games have many features that the fans like yet the new game has all fluff and doesn't actually bring anything to the table besides fluffy graphics.

There has been plenty of constructive criticism given, ive been here since the very first UFC undisputed, and once it switched to EA, the "constructive" part usually doesn't make it to EA's table of idea's.

Overall, im not here to hurt the devs, im just confused on how some very basic features are either compounded into a sloppy mess(like stats) or how we go from a super fun mode that has gotten amazing reviews before(UT) into something that is now a total money grab filled with roster fighters that we can get from EVERY other mode.

[MysticJack541]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

I know I'm jumping in this late. And I don't totally agree with the OP but there comes a point where you have to admit that there is a reason why there are so many negative threads.

Sure there are your typical whiners that aren't going to be happy regardless of what you do, but they are definatley the minority.

I think peoples frustration lies with the fact that we have waited 2 years for a release only to be told "it will improve with patches" or "wait for ufc 4". I mean I may be wrong but surely should a game be complete when it is release not fraught with issues that we have to wait to be fixed?

By no means do I think that everyone on this forum should be appeased because we disagree with another on most things aka. Leg kicks. But you have to admit there are issues when 9/10 threads are negative.

Then you look at how this game was sold to us. Take the career mode for example which I believe to be the most egregious mis-selling of a game mode ever. For the last two titles people have called for weigh ins and press conferences and this was shown in the trailers and talked up. Only to find that this would only be included in a cut scene.

The striking system was heralded as this breakthrough that would change combat games. But with it came just as many problems as the last.

Nothing is ever going to be perfect but when you wait for 2 years for a game that was in many ways mis-sold it is incredibly frustrating. And I think this is reflected in the mood on the forum.

I appreciate that the devs and GC's are in communication with us and I do not in any regard feel entitled to that. However, should it really be that the only way we can get this game on track is through 6 months worth of patches due to complaints of people on a forum?

It just seems kind of backwards. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe I'm in the minority on this. But as a die hard mma fan and practitioner this doesn't feel like the giant leap towards realism we were sold. And that is also reflected in the mma community on forums such as the underground. These guys are solely mma fans and they are saying the same things we are.

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

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[Phillyboi207]

Re: I hope a lesson can be learned here

lol. Love that you just gave your straight up opinion in this thread. For all the unnecessary, annoying, hateful **** you'll sometimes see on here... There's also a lot of *** kissing. It is what it is. GPD has been really cool and everyone respects him and his efforts. There are also plenty of things I don't like about the game. The input delay (start up frames... illusions... whatever it is) really does ruin your ability to time things. The safest thing to do I've found is to go head on at your opponent and Mike Tyson then before they can you lol.

One thing UFC 2 definitely did better was make me feel more in control of the game.

I dont get how it’s *** kissing just cuz some of us actually love this dev team.

I truly dont believe they’re the problem. A lot of the problem is poor feedback from people who wants meters everywhere and call honest criticism “illusions”.

Then they also have to waste limited resources on UT.

For all the flak they’re getting they clearly go out of their way to listen to a lot of our suggestions. It’s just that a lot of players are okay with current movement and head movement(sadly). They try to cater to the thing both sides agree are issues (Grappling fluidity, body punchs etc).