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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #106
    Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

    Originally posted by Haz____
    These stats arent realistic at all.



    Its the same artificle stat placement to fit fighters into their "tier" that we had last game.


    You couldn’t be more wrong but I’m not in the mood to argue it. Comparing it to how they did stats last time is ridiculous and wrong.


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    • Haz____
      Omaewa mou shindeiru
      • Apr 2016
      • 4023

      #107
      Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      You couldn’t be more wrong but I’m not in the mood to argue it. Comparing it to how they did stats last time is ridiculous and wrong.


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      Sure. We only have 28 pages of people correcting the stat issues already.

      It's totally perfect. /s


      These stats are allllll over the place. Lets be real. A lot of them make no sense. You can easily see certain fighters with missplaced stats to either buff them into "A tier" or nerf them into "c tier". The entire "tier" system warps the fighters stats away from realsim and towards some wierd artificial "balance" which really doesnt balance anything.
      Last edited by Haz____; 02-17-2018, 06:12 PM.
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      • johnmangala
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4525

        #108
        Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

        Robbie Lawler has better footwork stats than Tyron Woodley. (90 v 85) if anything it should be switched.

        Woodley was primarily able to KO Lawler with his footwork. Not to mention it was the crux of his strategies against Wonderboy and Maia.

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        • johnmangala
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 4525

          #109
          Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

          Mickey Gall and Erick Silva have better footwork stats than Woodley. (86 and 89 v 85).

          I am sure there are even more discrepancies, from the stats thread, I may have forgot.

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          • Nugget7211
            MVP
            • Nov 2017
            • 1401

            #110
            Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

            Originally posted by johnmangala
            Robbie Lawler has better footwork stats than Tyron Woodley. (90 v 85) if anything it should be switched.

            Woodley was primarily able to KO Lawler with his footwork. Not to mention it was the crux of his strategies against Wonderboy and Maia.
            I think footwork is just lunge speed or distance or something, I don't think it affects general movement speed.
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            • johnmangala
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 4525

              #111
              Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

              Originally posted by Nugget7211
              I think footwork is just lunge speed or distance or something, I don't think it affects general movement speed.
              It should.

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              • Nugget7211
                MVP
                • Nov 2017
                • 1401

                #112
                Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                Originally posted by Haz____
                Sure. We only have 28 pages of people correcting the stat issues already.

                It's totally perfect. /s


                These stats are allllll over the place. Lets be real. A lot of them make no sense. You can easily see certain fighters with missplaced stats to either buff them into "A tier" or nerf them into "c tier". The entire "tier" system warps the fighters stats away from realsim and towards some wierd artificial "balance" which really doesnt balance anything.
                To be fair, there's like a 3-4 page argument about RDA in there and a lot of discussion/duplicates as well. It's not 28 pages of nothing but corrections.

                I personally think the stats are like 90% fine, and considering they have to get UFC approved, there is always going to be some weird **** like champions and popular fighters getting unrealistically good stats, and some "C tier" fighters being unrealistically bad to make said champions and popular fighters feel really, really good. But it is a significant improvement over 2, in my opinion.
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                • Nugget7211
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 1401

                  #113
                  Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                  Originally posted by johnmangala
                  It should.
                  I don't disagree, they should call it movement though, because some people are fast and have bad technical footwork (early career Frankie Edgar or early career Mighty Mouse) and vice versa.
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                  • johnmangala
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 4525

                    #114
                    Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                    Originally posted by Nugget7211
                    I don't disagree, they should call it movement though, because some people are fast and have bad technical footwork (early career Frankie Edgar or early career Mighty Mouse) and vice versa.
                    This is very true.

                    Maybe striking speed should become just speed and govern such things.

                    Or add movement speed by itself.

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                    • johnmangala
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 4525

                      #115
                      Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                      There's some more too, like Rousey being more accurate than Pennington. (86 v 84)

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                      • aholbert32
                        (aka Alberto)
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 33106

                        #116
                        Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                        Originally posted by Haz____
                        Sure. We only have 28 pages of people correcting the stat issues already.

                        It's totally perfect. /s


                        These stats are allllll over the place. Lets be real. A lot of them make no sense. You can easily see certain fighters with missplaced stats to either buff them into "A tier" or nerf them into "c tier". The entire "tier" system warps the fighters stats away from realsim and towards some wierd artificial "balance" which really doesnt balance anything.


                        No one said they were perfect. Your comparison to ufc 2 is absolutely wrong. You have absolutely no idea how the stats were created. You are guessing and your guess is wrong.


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                        Last edited by aholbert32; 02-17-2018, 06:35 PM.

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                        • TheShizNo1
                          Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 26341

                          #117
                          Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                          Originally posted by Haz____
                          Sure. We only have 28 pages of people correcting the stat issues already.
                          Real men use 50ppp count.

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                          • Solid_Altair
                            EA Game Changer
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 2043

                            #118
                            Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                            Originally posted by johnmangala
                            This is very true.

                            Maybe striking speed should become just speed and govern such things.

                            Or add movement speed by itself.
                            What about Woodley?

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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #119
                              Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                              Originally posted by Nugget7211
                              To be fair, there's like a 3-4 page argument about RDA in there and a lot of discussion/duplicates as well. It's not 28 pages of nothing but corrections.



                              I personally think the stats are like 90% fine, and considering they have to get UFC approved, there is always going to be some weird **** like champions and popular fighters getting unrealistically good stats, and some "C tier" fighters being unrealistically bad to make said champions and popular fighters feel really, really good. But it is a significant improvement over 2, in my opinion.


                              Wow. This person has no inside info on how stats were developed but he has it pretty much right.

                              They aren’t perfect. There are errors which happens when you are creating 2k plus stats. The ufc has input which changes some things. With that said, they aren’t even close to ufc 2.

                              Also the 28 page thread is a mix of legitimate changes, some mistakes being pointed, people being biased about their favorite fighters and some requests that are flat out wrong.


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                              • johnmangala
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 4525

                                #120
                                Re: Why are there no Classic versions of fighters?

                                Originally posted by Solid_Altair
                                What about Woodley?
                                His footwork stat should be increased from 85 to 90/95.

                                No way should Erick Silva have better footwork stats than Woodley.

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