Blocking is Broken and Overpower and Block piercing is useless.

[goldbrg]

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Edit: Here is a short 40 sec clip from that fight. I feel like i've given my everything in these 40 seconds here and he doesn't seem to be phased at all.

All he does is hold Block, till i gass out then perform a slip Uppercut until he gets a lucky rock at my gassed out self.

He doesn't care that i am throwing bombs at him he keeps coming:

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I wasted 25% of my stamina here, rocked him 2 times. Cought him so many times when he tried slipping. He could care less. At the end of the day, he kept holding High Block, i Kept gassing.

In this example as well, you keep seeing his block regenerate, despite me still striking him. The short term block meter only goes down for 4 piece combos. So, while i am striking, it's regenerating... I am throwing like 3 strikes, then the thing regenerates, despite me starting another combination after that.

I guess that's the intendend way for the block to work, but it's ridiculous.

In my opinion, if someone allows themselves to eat a 4 strike combo, then their block should get disabled for a few more strikes afterwards as well and not instantly replenish and require another 4 piece combo, that is impossible, since the striker gasses out...

Maybe after a 4 piece combo, you should only need like a 2 piece combo for the next ~3 seconds and after getting hit by multiple 4 piece combos, the block's longevity should break down to only requiring a starting 3 piece combo to pierce through it.

Just a heads up, your "bombs" would be a lot more effective if you let your stamina refill before throwing combos. It sounds whack, but there is a difference between throwing punches at 50% stamina and 100% stamina, and monitoring that will help you manage that system better. It'll also make sure you don't get rocked by a counter.

[tissues250]

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Block is fine. If they makes block breaking more easy from now, every time you can break it and makes KDs or KOs. It isnt fun.

[1stChrisso]

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High block should break faster when moving forward. High block and hook spam is absolute cancer atm!

[SeparatedNose]

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From what you say it works perfectly.
If you keep punching the wall, why do you expect to not being gassed?

Blocking doesn’t work the same way in MMA as it does boxing. The small gloves means that punches csn easily slip through and REALLY hurt your arms bloxking punches. When you see an MMA fighter turtle up with their block a lot of times the fight is over.

This game will be a joke until they start to focus on realism, instead of trying to steal players from streek fighhter tekken and injustice, etc

[AeroZeppelin27]

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Block is fine. If they makes block breaking more easy from now, every time you can break it and makes KDs or KOs. It isnt fun.

Pretty much this. The new animations have made it crazy easy to work out various methods to break the block, 3 round or 3 straight strikes usually does the trick when there isn't a large power/block stat gap, your options as to what those strikes are really are up to you.

Just from playing with strike recording earlier today with health and stamina off I found that 1-5-2 follow by a 1-2 or just a few 1-6's or 1-2-6's will break the block long enough to land a free spinning heel kick.

Alternatively 3-4-3 or 4-3-4-3 will break the.block long enough to land a free flying knee if youve got a stationary opponent or have them on the fence.

Your opponent totally can fire back at the end of your combo, so you can't always take advantage of the broken block, at first, but eventually their overall block will start taking long term damage. And less strikes to break.

I'm not defending the suspension of realism here, it is what it is sadly, I still wish upper-hook-upper was more effective at wrecking a guard, I can tell you right now someone making you basically have to quickly swap between 3 guards gets both tiring and very confusing very quick, especially if you turtling up after eating a big shot, but block definitely isn't OP IMO. Still could use work, but it isn't OP.

[TehFlame]

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I know RNG doesn't really mix well with competitive gameplay, but what do you guys think about a small chance of a punch slipping through?

Head kicks/wheel kicks/etc wouldn't qualify otherwise you could just spam head kicks and get a fluke victory based solely on chance. Not to mention they're easy to block IRL if you have your guard up.

If a cross/hook/uppercut slips through, you might get rocked if you were already hurt, but it won't be a game ender like a RNG head kick. In MMA it's impossible to block all the punches since the gloves are small and there's so many angles they could come from

[Thetruth11]

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Lol if you can't land strikes with a top 3 striker on the game it's your fault


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[RetractedMonkey]

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I found a couple good new ways to break the guard WITHOUT doing 1212 head kick. Since no one wants to listen I won’t directly put it here, but go watch Kenetic vs Pryotic on ESFL 7 during the ending sequence and see if you can figure it out.


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[Phillyboi207]

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I found a couple good new ways to break the guard WITHOUT doing 1212 head kick. Since no one wants to listen I won’t directly put it here, but go watch Kenetic vs Pryotic on ESFL 7 during the ending sequence and see if you can figure it out.


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I thought MM already confirmed it’s 3 straights and a round or 3 rounds and a straight

[RetractedMonkey]

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I thought MM already confirmed it’s 3 straights and a round or 3 rounds and a straight

That’s a general rule, but it’s not the only thing you can do.


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[manliest_Man]

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I found a couple good new ways to break the guard WITHOUT doing 1212 head kick. Since no one wants to listen I won’t directly put it here, but go watch Kenetic vs Pryotic on ESFL 7 during the ending sequence and see if you can figure it out.


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Where can i find that fight?

By the Way, does it have anything to do with Faking Strikes to break block?

For example: Throw 1-1-2(fake)-5?

[burningxspirit]

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I found a couple good new ways to break the guard WITHOUT doing 1212 head kick. Since no one wants to listen I won’t directly put it here, but go watch Kenetic vs Pryotic on ESFL 7 during the ending sequence and see if you can figure it out.


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I didn't know that dude Pryorix was highly regarded. I fought him once so far and it was a war that I eventually lost in the third but It was super competitive and it was 1-1 going into the last round. Bodes well for my future in this game 👍

[ZombieRommel]

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The block meter never depletes if you just pepper it over time. What I mean is throw 1 jab every 5 seconds for the whole fight and the block meter will never deplete.

For the meter to deplete, you have to "break" it. You have to deplete it fully in one go, and then the max lowers.

It takes about 3 front strikes and 1 round strike to break the block now or vice versa. Jab, straight, lead uppercut, rear hook is a reliable one.

There is some delay grace period where the "block string" is maintained. So if you jab someone once every 0.5 seconds, you can keep their block ready to be pierced by a round strike indefinitely.

Martial made a video about the new block breaking animations, so you should definitely check it out if he hasn't already linked it in this thread.

[JokerCarnage]

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People on here seem to use the word broken like its going outta style. Shouldn't be throwing half your strikes to your opponents block. Find the openings or at least try. I only try to block break when my opponents rocked or if their staminas low. Something isn't automatically broken if it doesn't work in your favor.