Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

[MartialMind]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

I actually disagree with this. I believe removing permanent stamina drain from the stiff arm retreat will solve this problem.

If it doesn’t, don’t turn the third strike into a soft combo. Make it so you can’t move forward and have to plant your feet to throw the last strike.


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Believe it or not, but this was the original idea i presented to the team on the first day i played the game in Canada but it wasn't received well at all. It still won't be well received, which is why i'm asking for a sort of compromise here.

[iverson91]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

I agree, the constant moving forward combos is way out of wack. If you tried that irl being off balanced is what would lead to an easy timed takedown but that option/punishment is also missing in this game.

Even if a fighter is hurt if his opponent moves forward to aggressively often times it will often lead to a takedown or a clinch.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

Believe it or not, but this was the original idea i presented to the team on the first day i played the game in Canada but it wasn't received well at all. It still won't be well received, which is why i'm asking for a sort of compromise here.

That’s the biggest issue imo

We spoke about it before but the game allows you to shift weight at will and keep moving forward throwing powerful strikes.

I’m still in the “hard combos dont take enough stamina” camp. But the main issue is this hand holding of distance management for aggressive fighter.

Once I throw off of my rear foot and transfer my kinetic energy into forward momentum I cant keep moving forward with power. I’d have to take smaller steps or shift my weight back to my rear foot to explode forward again.

I definitely appreciate the work put into this thread.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

I actually disagree with this. I believe removing permanent stamina drain from the stiff arm retreat will solve this problem.

If it doesn’t, don’t turn the third strike into a soft combo. Make it so you can’t move forward and have to plant your feet to throw the last strike.


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I would also like to see something like this, first.

[Freshly Baked Gregg]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

Excellent suggestions. I'm all for realism and fighters just going forward throwing multi punch combos bothered me a bit. Vitor Belfort vs Wanderlei Silva is an example for a multi punch combo moving forward but it's all straight punches.


Regarding your second point, I'd also like to see counters off of blocks. Robbie Lawler for example throws hooks right after blocking punches, similar to what Gaethje does in the game. Maybe more unique block animations for some fighters would be a solution, but I'd like to somehow have this as an option for all fighters.

In Belfort vs Silva, this was a very exceptional circumstance... Also, after the 2nd strike, Belfort was sprinting forwards which makes sense according to this post.


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[AeroZeppelin27]

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I'm not gonna quote the post for brevity sake.

However, it is a fantastic post and I hope the changes happen.

[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

I actually disagree with this. I believe removing permanent stamina drain from the stiff arm retreat will solve this problem.

If it doesn’t, don’t turn the third strike into a soft combo. Make it so you can’t move forward and have to plant your feet to throw the last strike.


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Agree on removing the perm stamina drain. Or atleast maxing it FAR less taxing on long term stamina.

[WarMMA]

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Agree on removing the perm stamina drain. Or atleast maxing it FAR less taxing on long term stamina.

This for sure. Right now the perm stamina drain makes it not as usable as it should be.

[xFINISHxHIMx]

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23 likes it’s obvious that we don’t want hard combos to be that powerful.

I personally think the idea of everything after the first 2 punches being soft combos is the way to go.

When I see a dude throwing hooks atm me and he is repeatedly doing it I’m trying to land a punch after the second hook cause the 3rd, 4th and 5th hook are NEVER as fast as the first 2. Especially when he tries it all over again... see Miocic:Werdum. Its instinct. Every good striker would do that in such a situation. It’s a deadly opening that needs to be fixed.

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

Can't we just get rid of combos?

Why does there need to be something that gives artificial speed and power to your punches ?

Can't we just throw punches without some background mechanic working?

Can't i just throw a jab left hook uppercut and it be the same thing everytime? (depending on stamina and health of fighter)

what's the obsession with combos.

[MartialMind]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

Can't we just get rid of combos?

Why does there need to be something that gives artificial speed and power to your punches ?

Can't we just throw punches without some background mechanic working?

Can't i just throw a jab left hook uppercut and it be the same thing everytime? (depending on stamina and health of fighter)

what's the obsession with combos.

Think about that for a second.

Without combos, every single strike you throw would return to the guard completely even when you throw one after the other.

That'd be incredibly lame.

When a fighter throws a 1-2-3 combo, the 2 is thrown before the 1 returns completely and the 3 is thrown before the 2 returns completely... That makes it efficient and requires less energy when thrown that way.

Removing combos is not an option.



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[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

Think about that for a second.

Without combos, every single strike you throw would return to the guard completely even when you throw one after the other.

That'd be incredibly lame.

When a fighter throws a 1-2-3 combo, the 2 is thrown before the 1 returns completely and the 3 is thrown before the 2 returns completely... That makes it efficient and requires less energy when thrown that way.

Removing combos is not an option.



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They don't need to be the way they are for punches to be able to come out like that.

Just make it so the punches still come out that way when thrown minus the speed and power retention bonus.

I don't remember the fight night games having a 100 combo page list to look at.

[MartialMind]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

They don't need to be the way they are for punches to be able to come out like that.

Just make it so the punches still come out that way when thrown minus the speed and power retention bonus.

I don't remember the fight night games having a 100 combo page list to look at.

Without the speed and power retention bonus, counter fighting would become incredibly OP.

You think you hate the game now? Wait till nobody ever wants to engage ever, or all we see are pot shots and point fighting.

Let me ask you something. What is giving you the most issue? Forward moving combos while you're trying to create space or stationary combos?



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[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

Without the speed and power retention bonus, counter fighting would become incredibly OP.

You think you hate the game now? Wait till nobody ever wants to engage ever, or all we see are pot shots and point fighting.

Let me ask you something. What is giving you the most issue? Forward moving combos while you're trying to create space or stationary combos?



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I don't hate this game, i am incredibly passionate about it.

Currently every fight i have people come at me like a bull, literally i can only think of ZombieR as the only guy i have fought who has had a patient 5 round fight with me.

I'd say the issue is the speed at which punches are coming out in stationary, they can literally just plant their feet and start winging combos so fast that if you haven't preemptively leaned the correct direction you will get your block broken and knocked out.

They have taken the power out of the lean counters, unless you lean and pop a straight out, which is a nice touch but it seems as the defender you are are at the disadvantage.

[xFINISHxHIMx]

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Im so sick of defending simple left right hard combos it's annoying me since release pls development team add this asap