Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

A parry into clinch would be an awesome addition

especially as a way to survive when rocked

[MartialMind]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

I've been in practice mode labbing the relationship between forward moving combos and major lunges and the inconsistencies are staggering.

Players cannot be expected to learn the game without set principles that never get broken, principles based on reality.

Here's an example of the inconsistency i'm talking about.

Scenario 1:

Fighter A queues up a forward moving 1-2-1-4 (Jab-straight-jab-hook).
Fighter B blocks the 1-2-1 and the 4 delays before landing.



Scenario 2:

Fighter A queues up a forward moving 1-2-1-4 (Jab-straight-Jab-Hook)
Fighter B blocks the 1-2 lunges away from the 3rd strike and the 4th strike still combos hard with max speed and range.



Scenario 3:

Fighter A queues up thesame EXACT combos.
Fighter B does the EXACT same thing as scenario 2. Blocks the 1-2, lunges away from the 3rd strike, but this time, the 4th strike is canceled completely.



How many more inconsistencies like this exist in the game? How many more do we encounter and not even realize it. It's like the game just makes up it's own rules whenever it feels like it.

This is why set rules are required so players can learn what works/what doesn't work and be able to depend on it consistently.

BTW, how quickly Conor closes the distance in scenario 2 even against 2 major back lunges is ridiculous and why only 2 forward moving strikes thrown in a combination should be allowed to combo hard like that.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

I think the difference between gifs 2-3 is that the 2 is slipped in the second gif but blocked in the 3rd

But yeah the auto movement by Connor is ridiculous.

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

You can't really compare gif 2 and gif 3 as you swayed the punch at a different time.

This is just a prime example of the COMBO system not working properly and the "speed and power" that is supposed to carry with the combo only following through when the correct scenario happens.

Remove teh combos.

[MartialMind]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

I think the difference between gifs 2-3 is that the 2 is slipped in the second gif but blocked in the 3rd

But yeah the auto movement by Connor is ridiculous.

This is the second Gif slowed down.



The 2 was blocked, followed by a lunge backwards. Same as Gif 3. I did the lunge sooner after blocking the 2 in Gif 2, but that's it.

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

This is the second Gif slowed down.



The 2 was blocked, followed by a lunge backwards. Same as Gif 3. I did the lunge sooner after blocking the 2 in Gif 2, but that's it.

it looks like the 2 goes straight through your block and hits you, even sends sweat flying.

[MartialMind]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

it looks like the 2 goes straight through your block and hits you, even sends sweat flying.

Hmmm... You could be correct. I'll test it again.

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[xFINISHxHIMx]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

I love the KO Stiopic vs Werdum it perfectly shows whats currently wrong

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

I love the KO Stiopic vs Werdum it perfectly shows whats currently wrong

That is currently possible.

[xFINISHxHIMx]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

That is currently possible.

The stopping power is like that? No way a hard combo cant be stop like that. The 3rd strike is just as powerful and fast as #1 and #2 there is no space and damage openings to it. Tell me or better show me how to, cause then I’m doing it wrong. Out of instinct I’m trying to get a punch in there after the second or 3rd strike. I lose many fights like that.

A 1-2-3-2 will hit you moving back with full power and speed it’s hella fast and powerful. My experience.

[kush land]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

This is the second Gif slowed down.



The 2 was blocked, followed by a lunge backwards. Same as Gif 3. I did the lunge sooner after blocking the 2 in Gif 2, but that's it.

The 2nd gif is different it looks like you did 2 advanced lunges in a row?
And hes still all over you the distance created in the 3rd gif is what should happen everytime.

But to be honest half these people DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

There gonna say running away is OP

[MartialMind]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

The 2nd gif is different it looks like you did 2 advanced lunges in a row?
And hes still all over you the distance created in the 3rd gif is what should happen everytime.

But to be honest half these people DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

There gonna say running away is OP

Yup, 2 major lunges in a row and when it was all said and done he still ended up directly in front of me. That's a big reason why creating distance is so hard right now. Those forward moving combos must be toned down.

[WarMMA]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

I love the KO Stiopic vs Werdum it perfectly shows whats currently wrong

Thats the new quick retreat Stipe is doing though. You can do that in the game and tag someone like that. The only issue with it is once again the long term stamina tax it has.

[kush land]

Re: Realistic Tweak To Combos That Will Make Them Easier To Deal With!

Thats the new quick retreat Stipe is doing though. You can do that in the game and tag someone like that. The only issue with it is once again the long term stamina tax it has.

Im 90% sure you can not do what stipe did the power on straights has improved but not that much.I've never got 1 punch ko like that and does this retreat move even cause vulnerability damage?

[kush land]

Re: Realistic tweak to forward moving combos.

Yup, 2 major lunges in a row and when it was all said and done he still ended up directly in front of me. That's a big reason why creating distance is so hard right now. Those forward moving combos must be toned down.

The 2nd gif looks nicer ? if that matters lol