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  • Find_the_Door
    Nogueira connoisseur
    • Jan 2012
    • 4051

    #1

    Is this intended?

    I have to ask - what am I supposed to do here against this? It's incredibly frustrating to deal with. Tried to get away - occasionally could find a counter but they were few and far between.

    Also look how drastic the stamina drain is on the new R1+RT back scoot. . . Within the first minute.

    Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame
  • TheGentlemanGhost
    MVP
    • Jun 2016
    • 1321

    #2
    Re: Is this intended?

    This what I've been dealing with, it's especially the case when playing Mike Perry EVERY time so far too. All I can do is turn it into a 1-2 spamfest and time it right after the end of their 3 punch combo, but that just gets boring.

    But everyone is just pushing forward more now to just break the block. Plus since they're not exactly heavy strikes, I guess the stamina doesn't drain nearly as much as they should, even while constantly moving forward which is a problem.

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    • Nekrotik
      Rookie
      • Nov 2017
      • 288

      #3
      Re: Is this intended?

      This has been most fights for me. I don't back up nearly as much, but the spam basically puts you in a position where you literally can't do anything.

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      • Find_the_Door
        Nogueira connoisseur
        • Jan 2012
        • 4051

        #4
        Re: Is this intended?

        Originally posted by TheGentlemanGhost
        This what I've been dealing with, it's especially the case when playing Mike Perry EVERY time so far too. All I can do is turn it into a 1-2 spamfest and time it right after the end of their 3 punch combo, but that just gets boring.

        But everyone is just pushing forward more now to just break the block. Plus since they're not exactly heavy strikes, I guess the stamina doesn't drain nearly as much as they should, even while constantly moving forward which is a problem.

        Sent from my SM-J700P using Operation Sports mobile app
        Yeah in this particular fight I think I threw 23 strikes total in this fight but due to me trying to survive I have nearly half of my stamina gone - he throws 150 strikes and has nearly full stamina.


        Makes no sense
        Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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        • Morgan Monkman
          North of 60
          • Apr 2016
          • 1385

          #5
          Re: Is this intended?

          You need to use minor sways to make his jabs and straights miss.

          That's what i have been doing at least.
          PSNID: B_A_N_E

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          • Find_the_Door
            Nogueira connoisseur
            • Jan 2012
            • 4051

            #6
            Re: Is this intended?

            Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
            You need to use minor sways to make his jabs and straights miss.

            That's what i have been doing at least.
            I've been doing that as well and even a few times in this fight. The problem is he would blast me with hooks occasionally which would blow me up during minor sways.


            Still not enough risk for players wrecklessly throwing combos
            Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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            • RetractedMonkey
              MVP
              • Dec 2017
              • 1624

              #7
              Re: Is this intended?

              lol Of course it's IMUHBOXER. Anyways, this is extremely low level play on his part. You can minor slip his jab and land your own and you can also plant your feet and throw the jab-rear uppercut-lead hook combo once he's missed a few strikes.

              Plainly put, this should never work against someone that knows what they're doing. The patch just came out so I'm not expecting everyone to know what to do. The minor sways also cause you to take significantly less counter damage if he was throwing an occasional hook. Which the ratio was like 12-1 on straights to hooks.

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              • TheGentlemanGhost
                MVP
                • Jun 2016
                • 1321

                #8
                Re: Is this intended?

                I think (and hope) all we need is stamina taxed more on forward moving combos like this. I just end up doing the same thing right back to the opponent, and win or lose, it's just really a dull fight. Every other method has been too risky for me besides maybe circling out while jabbing.

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                • Yaari
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 1496

                  #9
                  Re: Is this intended?

                  Stamina is dumb in this game. And yeah using sway to deplete stamina? Way too risky LOL. You are more likely to get knocked down and be the one with the lower stamina capacity.

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                  • Morgan Monkman
                    North of 60
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1385

                    #10
                    Re: Is this intended?

                    Well, he is already extremely vulnerable coming forward winging jabs and straights like that, if you minor sway and tag him with a straight and than follow up with something else you can easily Ko him or knock him down coming forward like that.

                    Although i do agree with yall you shouldn't be able to just push forward like that punching and not lose stamina.
                    PSNID: B_A_N_E

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                    • Find_the_Door
                      Nogueira connoisseur
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 4051

                      #11
                      Re: Is this intended?

                      Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                      Well, he is already extremely vulnerable coming forward winging jabs and straights like that, if you minor sway and tag him with a straight and than follow up with something else you can easily Ko him or knock him down coming forward like that.

                      Although i do agree with yall you shouldn't be able to just push forward like that punching and not lose stamina.
                      That's my main point here really. The lack of tax on forward moving combos isn't in balance with the new evasion.

                      I beat him 2-1 in the majority of our fights yesterday. This one played out like this though so I figured I'd post it.
                      Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira - UFC Hall of Fame

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                      • WarMMA
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2016
                        • 4612

                        #12
                        Re: Is this intended?

                        So this is what ppl are talking about. These guys are just plowing forward with jabs and straights and draining down your block. Also on a side note, this is why some of us were asking for a bit more long term stamina drain when ppl throw so much. Do you see how much DC was throwing and your stamina was lower than his just cuz of the fast retreat? You only threw 29 strikes. That retreat drains too much long term stamina man.

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                        • Freshly Baked Gregg
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2018
                          • 605

                          #13
                          Re: Is this intended?

                          Also Martial Mind’s solution could solve this


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                          • 1stChrisso
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 210

                            #14
                            Re: Is this intended?

                            Yes, it is intended. Great patch, much more fun than before. Combos and stamina in the right place finally.

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                            • FCB x Finlay
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2017
                              • 1293

                              #15
                              Re: Is this intended?

                              Originally posted by 1stChrisso
                              Yes, it is intended. Great patch, much more fun than before. Combos and stamina in the right place finally.
                              Did you even watch it?

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