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  • mr420_qq
    Rookie
    • Nov 2017
    • 262

    #91
    Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

    Magnetic punches, healthregen bugg and blockbreak spam/ unresponsive slips makes me sad atm. I have had some good and fun fights but majority is not enjoyable at all for me.

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    • Rack Attack
      Banned
      • Mar 2018
      • 64

      #92
      Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

      Originally posted by mr420_qq
      Magnetic punches, healthregen bugg and blockbreak spam/ unresponsive slips makes me sad atm. I have had some good and fun fights but majority is not enjoyable at all for me.

      Sent from my SM-G935F using Operation Sports mobile app
      Just attack the body bro. I’m pretty sure that will help you tremendously 👍

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      • FCB x Finlay
        MVP
        • Nov 2017
        • 1293

        #93
        Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

        Originally posted by Rack Attack
        Just attack the body bro. I’m pretty sure that will help you tremendously 👍
        unfortanatly not when someone is just walking you down. Which is still possible.

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        • Rack Attack
          Banned
          • Mar 2018
          • 64

          #94
          Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

          Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
          unfortanatly not when someone is just walking you down. Which is still possible.
          It is at first, but I guess I’m one of the only few that know how to negate it. Because I’m giving you the advice you need and people seem to be ignoring it.

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          • RetractedMonkey
            MVP
            • Dec 2017
            • 1624

            #95
            Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

            Originally posted by FCB x Finlay
            unfortanatly not when someone is just walking you down. Which is still possible.


            It really isn’t. They can’t just walk you down with their block up anymore, they have to strike to enter your range (usually with a jab or double jab). This makes counter fighting even more effective because jabs are so easy to L1 lunge. Also, making them miss or hit the block with the strikes allows you to plant your feet and throw a three piece with a speed advantage x2.

            Not to mention the evasive methods combined with the added drain of constant strikes to enter range has made stamina sapping and outside fightingthe dominant form of play.

            Most players in quick match have actually caught on to it now. It makes leading a very risky endeavor. So again, this sentiment is all user error.


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            • Morgan Monkman
              North of 60
              • Apr 2016
              • 1385

              #96
              Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

              Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
              It really isn’t. They can’t just walk you down with their block up anymore, they have to strike to enter your range (usually with a jab or double jab). This makes counter fighting even more effective because jabs are so easy to L1 lunge. Also, making them miss or hit the block with the strikes allows you to plant your feet and throw a three piece with a speed advantage x2.

              Not to mention the evasive methods combined with the added drain of constant strikes to enter range has made stamina sapping and outside fightingthe dominant form of play.

              Most players in quick match have actually caught on to it now. It makes leading a very risky endeavor. So again, this sentiment is all user error.


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              Body spamming and back sways have become a pain to me, what can i do to beat it?
              PSNID: B_A_N_E

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              • Dankoz
                Rookie
                • Sep 2017
                • 258

                #97
                Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                Body spamming and back sways have become a pain to me, what can i do to beat it?
                Rear Elbow has been money for me against body spammers.

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                • Morgan Monkman
                  North of 60
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1385

                  #98
                  Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                  Originally posted by Dankoz
                  Rear Elbow has been money for me against body spammers.
                  Elbows are always inconsistent for me and i don't trust them to land.
                  PSNID: B_A_N_E

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                  • savage8_8
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 38

                    #99
                    Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                    I'm a little torn about this issue. On one hand it really gives an advantage to the person who manages to score a rock. This makes the other fighter feel danger and they need to actively work on recovery. On the other hand it gives too much advantage once the person rocks you. All the player has to do is throw constant combinations to your head without any repercussion or thought to eventually get the KO/TKO.

                    I'm actually thinking that maybe block needs to be buffed. There is currently no incentive to mix up strikes bc block is so weak now. You are really forced to use headmovemet which is really risky(as it should be). Right now a person can come out and blitz your head with no thought bc of how risky the defensive options are. If that's addressed than I would like to keep the regen like it is.

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                    • bmlimo
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1123

                      #100
                      Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                      Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                      Body spamming and back sways have become a pain to me, what can i do to beat it?
                      There’s a guy on Xbox that use a simple strategy that works a lot because of the combo speed... he choose a wrestler with heavy quick hands... than just stay in outside baiting you... than if u start coming foward he will leg kick you... if u close the distance he will do a combo hooks so fast that u even have time to sway(u are coming foward to him) if u stay in a longer distance he will head kick you... sounds a really easy I theory... but in practice it’s a *#*@#*# his nick is “AC MILAN” he already beat a lot of top 100 guys doing this s$*#*

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                      • RetractedMonkey
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 1624

                        #101
                        Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                        Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                        Body spamming and back sways have become a pain to me, what can i do to beat it?


                        Stationary lead uppercuts will starch anyone throwing more than one hook to the body if you have good reflexes. The uppercut should be one of your main punches against these guys. For example, I mainly throw hooks at the end of combos but against these guys I will throw more uppercuts in general in case I catch them at the right time.

                        When they excessively back sway I will either gain a small point advantage and make them come to me or lose the round. They can still back sway but it’s easier to catch them when they’re focused on being offensive to win the round. Be careful though because they will likely go back to being very passive if they suspect they have a point lead on you.

                        I also elect to run them down with straight punches if they’re close to the cage. Then crack them with body punches.


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                        • WarMMA
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 4612

                          #102
                          Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                          Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                          Elbows are always inconsistent for me and i don't trust them to land.
                          Yh this. I really wish they would increase the range a bit on those elbows. Opponent can be right in your face and it whiffs.

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                          • Morgan Monkman
                            North of 60
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1385

                            #103
                            Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                            Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                            Stationary lead uppercuts will starch anyone throwing more than one hook to the body if you have good reflexes. The uppercut should be one of your main punches against these guys. For example, I mainly throw hooks at the end of combos but against these guys I will throw more uppercuts in general in case I catch them at the right time.

                            When they excessively back sway I will either gain a small point advantage and make them come to me or lose the round. They can still back sway but it’s easier to catch them when they’re focused on being offensive to win the round. Be careful though because they will likely go back to being very passive if they suspect they have a point lead on you.

                            I also elect to run them down with straight punches if they’re close to the cage. Then crack them with body punches.


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                            Thanks man. I literally got matched agaisnt the same guy 6 times yesterday. My mark hunt vs his Alistair.

                            I started timing his body jab with uppercuts but it just seemed like it didnt matter with the backsway making my jab miss.
                            PSNID: B_A_N_E

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                            • Dankoz
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 258

                              #104
                              Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                              Originally posted by WarMMA
                              Yh this. I really wish they would increase the range a bit on those elbows. Opponent can be right in your face and it whiffs.
                              Rear elbow doesn't anymore after patch. You just have to time it right and it's extremely OP against guys coming right in your face.
                              Last edited by Dankoz; 04-30-2018, 11:40 AM.

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                              • Find_the_Door
                                Nogueira connoisseur
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 4051

                                #105
                                Re: Figured out why everyone is getting KOed so easily.

                                Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                                I hope it doesnt go back to prepatch.

                                Maybe a bit more forgiving then currently but the health regen bug has given me a taste of how great this game can be
                                Same here but don't count on that with the "competitive" players like Kenetic pounding their fists on desks because they're not as competitive anymore.
                                Last edited by Find_the_Door; 04-30-2018, 04:32 PM.
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