Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

[ungorborongo]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

They didnt fall on deaf ears. I saw them and so did the devs. The Guida one is legit and could happen when he fights next since the devs like to time changes with when they fight.

I dont have any control or input on the perks.

I've talked about Silva and I disagree with that one.

What I'm asking is if you see a low tier guy who deserves a small buff or nerf let me know and I'll pass it along. It doesnt mean it will happen but many of the changes have happened because of that thread.

do they look at the moves thread?

we have tons of bjj black belts without basic submissions in positions..

[aholbert32]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

do they look at the moves thread?

we have tons of bjj black belts without basic submissions in positions..

They do but like anything it doesnt mean that they will add them just because someone posts them.

[ungorborongo]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

They do but like anything it doesnt mean that they will add them just because someone posts them.

but it can't be that hard to do basic things like add moves to fighters, can it?

Like, its kind of ridiculous that any time was spent at all putting characters like dana white in the game while bjj black belts have no idea how to do kimuras or guillotines.

[Solid_Altair]

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I think guys with a bad head movement stat can actually sway quicker than before, now. That is a big help for the baddies.
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I just wanna say that IMO the UFC feedback was good. They didn't try to make stars OP, for instance.

[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I just wish the strengths of the lower tier guys was highlighted

Someone like Saki is rated perfectly and I’d love to see more of that

If a guy has a kickboxing background I’d love for his stats to be 90ish. If he has a grappling background the same thing. Just make sure their weak areas are very pronounced like low 80s.

Then let the contenders have 90-95ish range for their strengths but mid-high 80s for weakness unless it’s very pronounced (Maia striking, Overeem chin).

And let chin/heart/ stamina have nothing to do with tiers.

I think a rating system like that would create more balance amonst the roster.

But I know UFC has control over ratings so they want their stars inflated some.

Still much better than it was in UFC 2.

Augh! This, so much this!

It irks me especially when you see someone like Saki or Matt Brown with spot on stats, then see Dan Hooker or Justin Scroggins where they're just a kinda flat and generic low 80 with a tiny buff to areas they're proficient if your lucky.

Or someone like Guidas cardio feels nerfed because he's a lower end fighter, or Gil Burns have an 82 power despite winning his last 2 with walk-offs (Though I was complaining about this in another thread and Aholbert did allude to him getting a buff in the next tuner maybe)


Do the UFC have to okay the stat changes from tuners? Cause they'd be a good way to sneak in fixes for some of the off guys.

[AeroZeppelin27]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

I think guys with a bad head movement stat can actually sway quicker than before, now. That is a big help for the baddies.
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I just wanna say that IMO the UFC feedback was good. They didn't try to make stars OP, for instance.

They definitely can, that gap was closed a bit by the last patch for sure.

And its good to hear the UFC didn't try to mess with the stats, though it doesn't really look like they did either (otherwise Connor would be 90 grappling and GSP would be 5'7 79" reach and 100 ovr haha)

I just wish there went really tiers. I get the idea, I just don't think it worked out in practice, too many guys feel underrated because they're not on a good run or highly ranked.

Though Move Sets are really good, I've recently been going through a lot of Move Lists and I've been really impressed with the distribution of move levels and whatnot for strikes.

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

They definitely can, that gap was closed a bit by the last patch for sure.

And its good to hear the UFC didn't try to mess with the stats, though it doesn't really look like they did either (otherwise Connor would be 90 grappling and GSP would be 5'7 79" reach and 100 ovr haha)

I just wish there went really tiers. I get the idea, I just don't think it worked out in practice, too many guys feel underrated because they're not on a good run or highly ranked.

Though Move Sets are really good, I've recently been going through a lot of Move Lists and I've been really impressed with the distribution of move levels and whatnot for strikes.

The gap between top and bottom fighters was shrunk by half, pretty much. Maybe, if there is a UFC 4, we can push that gap to shrink even further. I agree that the bottom guys ended up a bit flat. Consider it had to do with not risking an even bigger change than the one proposed (halving the gap).

[scyth223]

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Lol, why am I not suprised.

One of the things I asked for years ago was an equal stats mode. In fight night round 3 when there was none of this stats stuff I would always pick different fighters and it was fun. I played fight night round 3 online for 3 years.

In EA UFC 1 I always picked different fighters and you could just about get away with it.

You can't nowdays, it just puts you at to much of a disadvantage to the point it isn't fun. It doesn't feel fair.

250 fighters in the game and yet everyone still picks Conor, Jon Jones ect the same dam 5 fighters.

Apparently people still haven't understood thats its not fun to fight Conor 20x in a row, Jon Jones 20x in a row. Theres so many guys on the roster I would love to have fun matches with but hey you can't.

Let me guess you pick any of the lower ranked guys and they gass super fast. I deleted the game after a month and a half but still follow the progress as I haven't missed a UFC event in 10 years.

[Find_the_Door]

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Nogueira for example is gimped in his chin stat unfairly simply to avoid him being a top ranked Heavyweight fighter.

There's absolutely no merit to Nogueira having the second worse chin in the weight class at 85. It's pathetic.

[Morgan Monkman]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Anu chance you could pass along my Ross Pearson stat change suggestions

[ungorborongo]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Nogueira for example is gimped in his chin stat unfairly simply to avoid him being a top ranked Heavyweight fighter.

There's absolutely no merit to Nogueira having the second worse chin in the weight class at 85. It's pathetic.

big nogs chin is worse than overeem's in game.. lmfao

[TheGentlemanGhost]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

To me it just feels like you can play with every fighter the same way. You just fight to see if you can let off combos fight basically. As long as you can let off combos or head kick/overhead a fighter after a missed head kick, you win. There's not much variety in winning the standup battles.

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[Solid_Altair]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Nogueira for example is gimped in his chin stat unfairly simply to avoid him being a top ranked Heavyweight fighter.

There's absolutely no merit to Nogueira having the second worse chin in the weight class at 85. It's pathetic.

But what about the sum of Chin and Heart. How does that place him in the division?

[Therebelyell626]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

Nogueira for example is gimped in his chin stat unfairly simply to avoid him being a top ranked Heavyweight fighter.

There's absolutely no merit to Nogueira having the second worse chin in the weight class at 85. It's pathetic.

In all fairness nogueiras chin was pretty suspect at the end of his career. One of the main reasons Dana was pushing for him to retire. Dude took a lot of damage in his career. Unless they are tying to replicate prime nogueira, in that case his chin rating would be ridiculously under powered. But If they are trying to replicate nogueiras prime years they need to change his player model. Slightly thinner and wearing tights

[Find_the_Door]

Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

In all fairness nogueiras chin was pretty suspect at the end of his career. One of the main reasons Dana was pushing for him to retire. Dude took a lot of damage in his career. Unless they are tying to replicate prime nogueira, in that case his chin rating would be ridiculously under powered. But If they are trying to replicate nogueiras prime years they need to change his player model. Slightly thinner and wearing tights

Yeah, but even other fighters are rated in their prime after retiring. I think most are a bit wrong about his chin down the stretch. Was it not what it used to be - sure, however, it did still take 3 clean bombs from Roy Nelson to put him down.

This is similar to when Chuck was rated like garbage last year then they rated him like Prime Chuck via patch half way through the game. Same should be done for Nogueira.