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  • Zeta Reticulan1
    Banned
    • Sep 2017
    • 471

    #61
    Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

    Struve, over the last 5 years, same number of fights had 3 KO/TKO losses.
    Do they rate his chin higher? I bet they do.


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    • Find_the_Door
      Nogueira connoisseur
      • Jan 2012
      • 4051

      #62
      Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

      Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
      Struve, over the last 5 years, same number of fights had 3 KO/TKO losses.
      Do they rate his chin higher? I bet they do.


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      They do smh
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      • bmlimo
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1123

        #63
        Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

        Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
        His best fights were two former champions, Tim Sylvia and Randy Couture. Sylvia defended the Heavyweight championship twice which was tied for the most defenses of the Heavyweight belt until very recently with Miocic.

        From his debut in the UFC in 07’ through 2012 he had 5 wins and 3 losses in 8 fights. One of which to Cain btw, so hardly a “Losing record”. It wasn’t until after this point that Father Time caught up to him.

        The point being, there is a strong case to be made for buffing many of his stats based on a 5 year stretch of his UFC record alone.



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        He wasn’t good against Silvya even find the door can say that... Silvya was never a good fighter he was champion in a time when UFC HW was really poor, If it was the pride nog Silvya would get he a#* whooped in the start to finish... but what we saw was other fight that nog survived a beating to submit the opponent ...
        But against couture was easily his best fight in UFC.. I remembered the prime nog, he’s was fast in that fight

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        • bmlimo
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 1123

          #64
          Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

          Originally posted by Find_the_Door
          Nogueira is the only man to ever sweep Werdum
          Props to him I don’t want to take his merits, I’m a nog fan and I used to train jiu jitsu in his academy.
          But I jwas just saying that werdum was just beaten up when the fight came to ground and you know what 2 knockdowns do to a person... but all the merits are for nogueira

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          • Zeta Reticulan1
            Banned
            • Sep 2017
            • 471

            #65
            Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

            Originally posted by bmlimo
            He wasn’t good against Silvya even find the door can say that... Silvya was never a good fighter he was champion in a time when UFC HW was really poor, If it was the pride nog Silvya would get he a#* whooped in the start to finish... but what we saw was other fight that nog survived a beating to submit the opponent ...
            But against couture was easily his best fight in UFC.. I remembered the prime nog, he’s was fast in that fight


            Sylvia is still a part of an elite group of UFC Heavyweights that defended the title twice:
            Velasquez, Lesnar & Sylvia.

            Heavyweight wasn’t deep back then but you still had Andrew Arlovski that he beat twice (who was good all the way up to 2015) Jeff Monson, a world class grappler, Rico Rodriguez, Wes Correira.

            I just wish they would rate Nog based off of his run from his UFC debut in 07’ all the way through 2012. 5 wins in 8 fights, one of those losses coming to Velasquez which there is no shame in at all.



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            Last edited by Zeta Reticulan1; 05-05-2018, 12:03 PM.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #66
              Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

              Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
              Sylvia is still a part of an elite group of UFC Heavyweights that defended the title twice:
              Velasquez, Lesnar & Sylvia.

              Heavyweight wasn’t deep back then but you still had Andrew Arlovski that he beat twice (who was good all the way up to 2015) Jeff Monson, a world class grappler, Rico Rodriguez, Wes Correira.

              I just wish they would rate Nog based off of his run from his UFC debut in 07’ all the way through 2012. 5 wins in 8 fights, one of those losses coming to Velasquez which there is no shame in at all.



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              I'd argue that his current stats are close to what they would be if we based it off that. ****, if we did that FTD would have less of a leg to stand on when it comes to his chin since he got KO'd twice during that run.

              Also, why do these threads always turn into a discussion about Nog's stats?

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              • Zeta Reticulan1
                Banned
                • Sep 2017
                • 471

                #67
                Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                I'd argue that his current stats are close to what they would be if we based it off that. ****, if we did that FTD would have less of a leg to stand on when it comes to his chin since he got KO'd twice during that run.

                Also, why do these threads always turn into a discussion about Nog's stats?


                Struve got KOed 3 times in the last 5 years though
                and has a much higher chin I think.

                The stats are close, but I would like + 2 or 3 for Nog’s chin. +2 for his Sub Defense.

                I’ll stop derailing this thread now lol. But sort of on the same topic since he’s a non elite in the game that should be more competitive.


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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #68
                  Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                  Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
                  Struve got KOed 3 times in the last 5 years though
                  and has a much higher chin I think.

                  The stats are close, but I would like + 2 or 3 for Nog’s chin. +2 for his Sub Defense.

                  I’ll stop derailing this thread now lol. But sort of on the same topic since he’s a non elite in the game that should be more competitive.


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                  Struve is an 86. Nog is an 85. IMO thats more of an argument for a Struve nerf.

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                  • neyney00
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 264

                    #69
                    Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                    Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
                    Struve got KOed 3 times in the last 5 years though
                    and has a much higher chin I think.

                    The stats are close, but I would like + 2 or 3 for Nog’s chin. +2 for his Sub Defense.

                    I’ll stop derailing this thread now lol. But sort of on the same topic since he’s a non elite in the game that should be more competitive.


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                    Is this FTD alt account? 🧐

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                    • Zeta Reticulan1
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2017
                      • 471

                      #70
                      Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      Struve is an 86. Nog is an 85. IMO thats more of an argument for a Struve nerf.


                      Yeah either nerf Struve or buff Nog, because it just doesn’t make sense as is with their chin ratings.


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                      • Find_the_Door
                        Nogueira connoisseur
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4051

                        #71
                        Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                        Originally posted by neyney00
                        Is this FTD alt account? 🧐
                        Lmao no sir
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                        • Find_the_Door
                          Nogueira connoisseur
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 4051

                          #72
                          Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                          Originally posted by Zeta Reticulan1
                          Yeah either nerf Struve or buff Nog, because it just doesn’t make sense as is with their chin ratings.


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                          Also either need Overeem or buff Nog. How Overeem is three points higher is beyond me.
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                          • Morgan Monkman
                            North of 60
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1385

                            #73
                            Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                            Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                            Also either need Overeem or buff Nog. How Overeem is three points higher is beyond me.
                            overeems chin needs to be lowered IMO
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                            • Find_the_Door
                              Nogueira connoisseur
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 4051

                              #74
                              Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                              Originally posted by Morgan Monkman
                              overeems chin needs to be lowered IMO
                              What's crazy is that he was coming off of a devasting knock out loss at release and it still hasn't been touched. That's to add to his laundry list of ko losses.

                              One could easily make the case that Overeem should very well have the worst chin in the entire game.
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                              • bmlimo
                                MVP
                                • Apr 2016
                                • 1123

                                #75
                                Re: Game is being tuned to the point of only the elite being able to play.

                                Originally posted by Find_the_Door
                                What's crazy is that he was coming off of a devasting knock out loss at release and it still hasn't been touched. That's to add to his laundry list of ko losses.

                                One could easily make the case that Overeem should very well have the worst chin in the entire game.
                                Overeem is the best example of lack of footwork in this game... His defense is ALL based in it and he does an amazing job using it do defend his glass chin... but as the game doesn’t have a proper footwork they buff his chin smh

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