1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

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  • Solid_Altair
    EA Game Changer
    • Apr 2016
    • 2043

    #31
    Re: 1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

    Originally posted by SUGATA
    I am going to make a poll only on facts - "can you make 20 Minor sways stable w/o failing into Major or not?" - so this will be just a statistics, not my ideas.

    I edited my post before yr answer but it seems you was earlier with quote.
    So one more UBER counter proof:
    I haven't tested if backlash can cause a minor lunge. Do we get minor lunges from short flicks?

    And I must say I'm surprised you're treating footwork and head movement as if they were similar things. Walking a tiny bit here or there is very difefrent from performing a lean. This is much like the point I was making about shooters. Do you think they just randomly went with 5 and 30, or that they picked 30 for a reason?

    Also, you're not implying that the backlash example in the video isn't a backlash, are you?

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    • SUGATA
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 1375

      #32
      Re: 1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

      Originally posted by Solid_Altair
      I haven't tested if backlash can cause a minor lunge. Do we get minor lunges from short flicks?

      And I must say I'm surprised you're treating footwork and head movement as if they were similar things. Walking a tiny bit here or there is very difefrent from performing a lean. This is much like the point I was making about shooters. Do you think they just randomly went with 5 and 30, or that they picked 30 for a reason?

      Also, you're not implying that the backlash example in the video isn't a backlash, are you?
      I am not talking about lunges, Walking will be from little clicks too.

      You dont need to test it.
      IF you never have problems with LS moves (which 100% has tightest Dead zone not more than 5') as i understood - you can be sure that there will not be problems with RS 5' Dead zone causing back spring.

      This is a PROOF that you will not get accidental Sway because of back spring when dead zone RS will be 5'.
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      • Solid_Altair
        EA Game Changer
        • Apr 2016
        • 2043

        #33
        Re: 1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

        Originally posted by SUGATA
        You dont need to test it.
        IF you never have problems with LS moves (which 100% has tightest Dead zone not more than 5') as i understood - you can be sure that there will not be problems with RS 5' Dead zone causing back spring.

        This is a PROOF that you will not get accidental Sway because of back spring when dead zone RS will be 5'.
        So, you're still claiming that an intended sway would be just like an intended momentary input of the LS for walking?

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        • SUGATA
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 1375

          #34
          Re: 1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

          Originally posted by Solid_Altair
          So, you're still claiming that an intended sway would be just like an intended momentary input of the LS for walking?
          Dude. Now i dont uderstand your last questions and their target...

          RESUME:
          For me it is impossible to do stably Minor sways, its series, and they have buffer issues.

          For you Minor sways input "is fine".

          > I will make a Poll to ask the community to gahter statistics and hope it will help to solve the issue if i a right. If someone will explain me how to make a Poll on OS.......?


          For you tight Dead zone may cause accidental inputs.

          For me tight Dead zone will NOT cause any accidental Sways because RIGHT NOW we already have tightest Dead zone on LS and have not ANY problems:
          - no porblems from your back spring
          - no problems from GPD's another direction pressed previously as you said above
          No ANY problems.


          Dude, please save my and your time in that discussion.
          I asking the last question for you:
          DO you know that LS in EA UFC 3 has ALREADY a 5' Dead zone NOW?
          DO you know that standard Lunge IS activated by clicking from window 5-10'+ (i.e. standard lunge 's window input is 3 times shorter that for Minor sways!!)?

          If you DO NOT know this please right NOW go to Practice and test it - by clicking LS as light as possible and you will see Movements EVERY TIME!

          > And then tell me DO you have any accidental inputs with LS any movements??
          Last edited by SUGATA; 05-19-2018, 02:03 PM.
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          • Solid_Altair
            EA Game Changer
            • Apr 2016
            • 2043

            #35
            Re: 1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

            I won't repeat it yet again.

            Good luck with your quest.

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            • SUGATA
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 1375

              #36
              Re: 1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

              Originally posted by Solid_Altair
              I won't repeat it yet again.

              Good luck with your quest.
              repeat what? i am not asking you to make a videos, i am asking do you know that LS dead zone is 5' now? and if not then test it for YOURSELF. not for me, i know it already.

              It looks like you afraid to be wrong more than to make game better.

              Very frustrating news.

              P.S. You ingnored my request for you.. OK. Next time i will know that ti duscus anything with you is USELESS time loosing. Because it looks like you are not interesting in truth and fixing game.
              Last edited by SUGATA; 05-19-2018, 02:39 PM.
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              • SUGATA
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 1375

                #37
                Re: 1.05 Major and Minor SWAYS issues (DEAD ZONE) + How to fix it

                Solid_Altair, I am really hate to end this debates on these words ^.
                You did much job for EA UFC.
                And I hope you will.

                I offer you to meet online with chat and together in real time:
                1. Test current input properties
                2. Exchange our thoughts and ideas
                3. Create a solution which can be a fix via patch for current issues in the game.

                It does not matter for me which idea will be right or wrong. For me important to make the game better so I could get much more pleasure and mind game from it.

                Add me , PSN: SUGATA_RUS
                Last edited by SUGATA; 05-19-2018, 05:09 PM.
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