I cant wait for next patch

[melo627]

Re: I cant wait for next patch

@rolltide what is the main complaint about grappling?just being able to move back in forth like UD3? Or what? I'm lost..

[Trillz]

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EA UFC 2 had more of a pop then EA UFC 3 at this point of the game, i dont know what it is, maybe the combo system.

[Zeta Reticulan1]

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EA UFC 2 had more of a pop then EA UFC 3 at this point of the game, i dont know what it is, maybe the combo system.

I think it’s the controls, the combos, the phone booth meta, and the stale ground game that hasn’t been changed since EA UFC 2.

[Rolltide1980]

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@rolltide what is the main complaint about grappling?just being able to move back in forth like UD3? Or what? I'm lost..

Well it's really difficult to pinpoint one specific issue with the grappling......my main issue is that it's way too easy to transition to a better position,there should be way more of a struggle instead of going from guard to half guard to full mount in a matter of seconds. Another thing that drives me crazy is say you take someone down and you end up in their guard,you go to stand back up and they deny it and half your temporary stamina is gone and then you get easily submitted.

I know it's more of an issue with the busted submission system but still,lose half your stamina just from trying to stand back up and getting pulled back in their guard one time? I think the window to deny a transition should be increased slightly, maybe it'll slow down the crazy pace of transition advances. It should feel like you accomplished something to get full mount,not something you do at will. I think they should also increase damage from full mount but at the same time make it more difficult to obtain full mount. Right now side control seems to be the most dominant position as you can't do anything to defend strikes when you're in side control defensive. Very easy to land rapid short elbows to finish the fight.

I'm not one of those guys that says Undisputed 3 is near flawless and the best MMA game ever,I actually think this game is way better in certain aspects,but Undisputed 3 had a pretty good grasp on what the ground game should be like. They made the ground and pound actually look and feel destructive, and when you were in a defensive position you had more options to defend yourself. You could catch their strikes sometimes or you could sway in some positions to avoid strikes,instead of just turtling up and hoping for the best.

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[Rolltide1980]

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EA UFC 2 had more of a pop then EA UFC 3 at this point of the game, i dont know what it is, maybe the combo system.

I dont see how anyone could say UFC 2 is better in any aspect,well other than the amazing ragdoll knockouts. I've tried a couple times of going back to UFC 2 and the footwork is so awful and those flatfooted strikes look ridiculous. That and the strikes did so little damage,you could just push forward after eating a flush head kick like nothing happened. I'm most definitely not sayin UFC is perfect,I could think of many things that could be improved upon,but UFC 2 is pure garbage compared to this. I can understand some people saying this wasn't a big enough leap forward from UFC 2 but I can't process anybody saying this is a step backwards as a whole product.

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[Zeta Reticulan1]

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Well it's really difficult to pinpoint one specific issue with the grappling......my main issue is that it's way too easy to transition to a better position,there should be way more of a struggle instead of going from guard to half guard to full mount in a matter of seconds. Another thing that drives me crazy is say you take someone down and you end up in their guard,you go to stand back up and they deny it and half your temporary stamina is gone and then you get easily submitted.

I know it's more of an issue with the busted submission system but still,lose half your stamina just from trying to stand back up and getting pulled back in their guard one time? I think the window to deny a transition should be increased slightly, maybe it'll slow down the crazy pace of transition advances. It should feel like you accomplished something to get full mount,not something you do at will. I think they should also increase damage from full mount but at the same time make it more difficult to obtain full mount. Right now side control seems to be the most dominant position as you can't do anything to defend strikes when you're in side control defensive. Very easy to land rapid short elbows to finish the fight.

I'm not one of those guys that says Undisputed 3 is near flawless and the best MMA game ever,I actually think this game is way better in certain aspects,but Undisputed 3 had a pretty good grasp on what the ground game should be like. They made the ground and pound actually look and feel destructive, and when you were in a defensive position you had more options to defend yourself. You could catch their strikes sometimes or you could sway in some positions to avoid strikes,instead of just turtling up and hoping for the best.

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There just needs to be much more that happens between full Guard, half guard, and mount.

From full guard, a micro transition to perform each action of a guard pass for example. Same for the other positions.

[iverson91]

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There just needs to be much more that happens between full Guard, half guard, and mount.

From full guard, a micro transition to perform each action of a guard pass for example. Same for the other positions.

I 100% agree with you on micro transitions but sometimes even with normal transition they seem unblockable. Sometimes even when im antisipating a transition and know what they are gonna do they are hard to block. Wouldn't a micro transition be a super meter filler? I can't imagine how those would be blockable.. so it would pretty much almost be like a free transition? Especially when you add transition fakes into it.


I honestly can't fully remeber how it worked but couldn't you pre deny (meaning hold your opponent) in UD3 both in top and bottom position? I don't remeber that ever causing a problem. Could you see adding something like that causing problem with this game?

[UFCBlackbelt]

Re: I cant wait for next patch

There just needs to be much more that happens between full Guard, half guard, and mount.

From full guard, a micro transition to perform each action of a guard pass for example. Same for the other positions.

I lol'd because for a second I thought you meant microtransaction to perform each guard pass.

[Find_the_Door]

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EA UFC 2 had more of a pop then EA UFC 3 at this point of the game, i dont know what it is, maybe the combo system.

I think it’s the controls, the combos, the phone booth meta, and the stale ground game that hasn’t been changed since EA UFC 2.

No it was definitely because when EA UFC 2 released it genuinely felt as if wow we're making progress (and it was impossible to miss) and then this game came out rushed to the market so fast that we not only have a completely different stand-up from launch but we also have a ground game that's completely stale and boring that's largely a carryover.

Had they taken two more years or a year & 1/2 to further develop the ground game then cool. At this point with how unstable this game is right now I'd rather that they took the time.

[OPSPunk]

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I 100% agree with you on micro transitions but sometimes even with normal transition they seem unblockable. Sometimes even when im antisipating a transition and know what they are gonna do they are hard to block. Wouldn't a micro transition be a super meter filler? I can't imagine how those would be blockable.. so it would pretty much almost be like a free transition? Especially when you add transition fakes into it.


I honestly can't fully remeber how it worked but couldn't you pre deny (meaning hold your opponent) in UD3 both in top and bottom position? I don't remeber that ever causing a problem. Could you see adding something like that causing problem with this game?

well the pre denial in this uUD3 also had turn based transitions where the third trans auto went through. So it had drawbacks. Pre denial in this game could work but it would have to be at a stamina cost to make it balanced.

[Zeta Reticulan1]

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I 100% agree with you on micro transitions but sometimes even with normal transition they seem unblockable. Sometimes even when im antisipating a transition and know what they are gonna do they are hard to block. Wouldn't a micro transition be a super meter filler? I can't imagine how those would be blockable.. so it would pretty much almost be like a free transition? Especially when you add transition fakes into it.


I honestly can't fully remeber how it worked but couldn't you pre deny (meaning hold your opponent) in UD3 both in top and bottom position? I don't remeber that ever causing a problem. Could you see adding something like that causing problem with this game?

Yeah I think the microtransitions should be as blockable as the current ones.

Give you more chances to deny the top guy from totally mounting you.

[UFCBlackbelt]

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No it was definitely because when EA UFC 2 released it genuinely felt as if wow we're making progress (and it was impossible to miss) and then this game came out rushed to the market so fast that we not only have a completely different stand-up from launch but we also have a ground game that's completely stale and boring that's largely a carryover.

Had they taken two more years or a year & 1/2 to further develop the ground game then cool. At this point with how unstable this game is right now I'd rather that they took the time.

They spent a good deal of resources on UT which is terrible atm. Remember this was Pre-StarwarsBattlefront2 EA

[killakrok]

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They spent a good deal of resources on UT which is terrible atm. Remember this was Pre-StarwarsBattlefront2 EA

Interesting. Why do you feel they spent that much resources on UT, other than the fact that its the obvious cash grab mode?

It seems like they actually spent no time at all on it and actually had a different team work on it than UFC 2 considering the glaring differences, inconsistencies, and obviously terrible decisions that went into that mode that show a huge disconnect between the mode in UFC 2. There are still obvious holes and easy fixes that people have been complaining about and giving clear fixes to SINCE THE BETA that don't look like they will ever be addressed.

We also haven't heard ANYTHING from anyone at EA on their channels or in this forum about anything in UT this entire time and it barely gets any attention anywhere when people are clearly frustrated and want to see a lot of changes.

I feel like it got no attention at all and a minimal amount of time was spent further converting it closer to the generic card/pack system that is in every EA game instead of pushing it forward and building on what everyone loved about it in UFC 2, which was individuality and customization. If that's what you mean by time spent, then yeh, but assuming the work could be divided this way it would have been MUCH better had they just not touched anything in UT like they did with the ground game and used those resources/time to improve that.

[MeowingForVengeance]

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Had they taken two more years or a year & 1/2 to further develop the ground game then cool. At this point with how unstable this game is right now I'd rather that they took the time.

The wild thing is that in the world of sports games...2 years is longer than most teams get to work on a game. Madden and MLB The Show put out a new one every single year.

Not in any way a knock on the EA UFC team, just an observation on the absurd output that's expected from sports game devs.

So while I'm frustrated that grappling is lagging so far behind striking when it comes to fun and dynamic gameplay, I get why they didn't have time to overhaul both systems.

[johnmangala]

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I hope we see clinch breaks for punches in the clinch in the coming grappling patch.



This benefits both strikers who want to break out of the clinch and grapplers who want to deal damage in the clinch, with punches.

Jab and grab should be better entry for single collar. Tying pawing to grappling can facilitate this.



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