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  • Skynet
    EA Sports UFC Developer
    • Mar 2015
    • 703

    #16
    Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

    The simple and honest answer is that we want to add more visuals, but have not had the resources to do a respectable job of putting that info on screen. That takes time for designs, art, back-end system communication, exposing data to such systems, etc.

    While a decent number of these things have happened in one form or another, it's not something that's been able to come together for an actual in-game feature. We have debug visualizations for some of this, but extending that into the game itself isn't a reasonable option for us, sadly.

    I really hope this is something that gets a lot of attention in the future, because it can have a huge impact on player communities.

    PS: I've fixed a couple bugs in the practice recording in the last couple days, so hopefully that can find its way into a patch in the future, but until it does I can't guarantee anything.

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    • 1212headkick
      Banned
      • Mar 2018
      • 1823

      #17
      Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

      Originally posted by Skynet
      The simple and honest answer is that we want to add more visuals, but have not had the resources to do a respectable job of putting that info on screen. That takes time for designs, art, back-end system communication, exposing data to such systems, etc.

      While a decent number of these things have happened in one form or another, it's not something that's been able to come together for an actual in-game feature. We have debug visualizations for some of this, but extending that into the game itself isn't a reasonable option for us, sadly.

      I really hope this is something that gets a lot of attention in the future, because it can have a huge impact on player communities.

      PS: I've fixed a couple bugs in the practice recording in the last couple days, so hopefully that can find its way into a patch in the future, but until it does I can't guarantee anything.
      please put combos on screen and frame data as well and some kind of input that let us see what button presses we performed

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      • SUGATA
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1375

        #18
        Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

        Originally posted by Skynet
        The simple and honest answer is that we want to add more visuals, but have not had the resources to do a respectable job of putting that info on screen. That takes time for designs, art, back-end system communication, exposing data to such systems, etc.

        While a decent number of these things have happened in one form or another, it's not something that's been able to come together for an actual in-game feature. We have debug visualizations for some of this, but extending that into the game itself isn't a reasonable option for us, sadly.

        I really hope this is something that gets a lot of attention in the future, because it can have a huge impact on player communities.

        PS: I've fixed a couple bugs in the practice recording in the last couple days, so hopefully that can find its way into a patch in the future, but until it does I can't guarantee anything.
        Does this 6th update fix #1 bug s recording tool - restart pattern after sway evade? Or it is going to be fixed in the next patch?


        Glad to hear that you understand the importance of practice tools!

        1. More gauges - Frame advantage, Stopping power, startup/hit/Frame advantage numbers displayed, vulnerability value and size.

        2. Ability to record 3 patterns and then replay them in RANDOM row - for training against MIX-UPs

        3. Ability to immediately select/create ANY Clinch and Ground position to train in it W/O wasting time for getting into it (like in UD3)

        4. Ability to train/invite w friend in practice

        5. Ability to Save Match Replay , and then turn on these gauges info during viewing it for analysis.

        All this will MAKE POSSIBLE TO DISCOVER all needed META of the game by player himself - it is more interesting, more practical and not creative.
        This will auto solve any lack of tutorials and open info of meta.
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        • SUGATA
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 1375

          #19
          Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

          Just tested - NO, the bugs exists, all the same.

          Recorded pattern re-started just after a whiff... so impossible to test openings and punishing (the soul of the fight) =(
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          • Skynet
            EA Sports UFC Developer
            • Mar 2015
            • 703

            #20
            Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

            Originally posted by SUGATA
            Just tested - NO, the bugs exists, all the same.

            Recorded pattern re-started just after a whiff... so impossible to test openings and punishing (the soul of the fight) =(
            Yeah, I fixed it locally this week, not in the patch that just went out. That patch was out of our hands a while ago...

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            • SUGATA
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 1375

              #21
              Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

              Originally posted by Skynet
              Yeah, I fixed it locally this week, not in the patch that just went out. That patch was out of our hands a while ago...
              anyway, the best news that "you fixed it"... so as i see, this fix will be implemented in the game with next patch.

              Thank you very much, this is excellent news! Your recording tool is one of the most important features in EA UFC 3!
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              • FriendlyJudoka
                Rookie
                • Mar 2018
                • 68

                #22
                Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

                Skynet, thank you so much for discussing this stuff with us. I did not realize you singlehandedly put all this together in overtime. I hope I haven't said anything too harsh. I am very thankful for you putting in the extra work so that we can have what is currently there. Also thank you for continuing to care about this feature, and I hope the rest of the team will get behind this feature as you have. Developers like you are the reason I buy these games.

                I'm sure you have some great ideas about revamping the practice mode for UFC 4, and this probably not the thread for that, but I would love to have that discussion in the future.

                For now I will go back and try to work with the recording feature more.

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                • SUGATA
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2016
                  • 1375

                  #23
                  Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

                  Skynet, i found new BUG #5 in recording tool - Dummy INPUT SKIPPING:



                  I recorded Front Body kick (L2+L1+square+x).


                  I catched his kicks, made follow ups and all was fine.
                  Until... I tried to make TD (RS toward) from Catch kick stance.
                  Then after getup Dummy began to make Uppercuts instead of FWD Body kicks - he was SKIPPING L2+L1 input.


                  This bug may be not so crucial - b/c this scenario is not very needed, BUT i afraid that this SKIPPING INPUT issue may cause some problems in other more actual scenarious.
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                  • Skynet
                    EA Sports UFC Developer
                    • Mar 2015
                    • 703

                    #24
                    Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

                    Originally posted by FriendlyJudoka
                    Skynet, thank you so much for discussing this stuff with us. I did not realize you singlehandedly put all this together in overtime. I hope I haven't said anything too harsh. I am very thankful for you putting in the extra work so that we can have what is currently there. Also thank you for continuing to care about this feature, and I hope the rest of the team will get behind this feature as you have. Developers like you are the reason I buy these games.

                    I'm sure you have some great ideas about revamping the practice mode for UFC 4, and this probably not the thread for that, but I would love to have that discussion in the future.

                    For now I will go back and try to work with the recording feature more.
                    I may be attached to it, but by no means should you hold back feedback good or bad because of it :P

                    I was eventually able to get some assistance with the UI and main menu tile, so it's not really all me...but like 95%. In any case, I'm glad people are getting some use out of it, though I do understand it's not a complete tool, even in the confines of recording and playback.

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                    • SUGATA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1375

                      #25
                      Re: RECORDING tool BUGS + How to fix it

                      Originally posted by Skynet
                      I may be attached to it, but by no means should you hold back feedback good or bad because of it :P

                      I was eventually able to get some assistance with the UI and main menu tile, so it's not really all me...but like 95%. In any case, I'm glad people are getting some use out of it, though I do understand it's not a complete tool, even in the confines of recording and playback.
                      Your Recording tool (even in the current some buggy and not complete variant) is the FIRST place to come in when a player want to find the best solution vs any Striking scripts/pattern which he is meeting online.
                      This is one of the highest priority learning tool in the game!
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