EA Sports UFC 3 Content Update #8 Available Now - Patch Notes Here

[MacGowan]

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I hate pulling this card; but I do train MMA.
That is, I SHOULD be training MMA, right now I'm in bed with a cold, eating ice cream and feeling sorry for myself.

Blocking is not only by using your hands but shoulder and lowering your chin as well.

Chin should always be tucked, but fine.
Sure you can do Philly shell in MMA. lots of people do it.... like 4?
Sorry, I'm being glib. Shoulder rolling is not a block mechanic in this game. if anything it's closer connected to the minor sways and circling out. You can weather a storm in this game by getting hit as long as you are moving away from the punches. To me it looks kinda cool. shoulder rolling-ish when you are in the corner, swaying, blocking, ducking.

You are wrong.

No, good sir, you are wrong.

every time when you are striking, the other your hand always defending blocking your chin and liver!

GPD was talking about the same hand. right?
as the GIF shows, you are more vulnerable to a counter on the side you threw the punch from.


Chin AND liver at the same time? this is not boxing.

IRL Blocking is the 1st way to defend against fast strikes.

Cody is that you? Move your head off the center line.
number 1 defence is NOT BEING THERE. move in, move out, footwork, angles, slips, head movement! head movement!

Sway good against large wind up strikes and series.

Like a hook? like what we're talking about?

this new counter strike mechanics is unrealistic and not logical.

I'm gonna wait and play the patch first. I'm sure the devs are sitting by ready to emergency fix if there are large problems with the patch.

edit: Also sorry to Cody for using him as a joke. The footwork and head movement against Cruz is legit the greatest thing ever.

[Mr_Cool_Ice]

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Ragdoll spoiler?

I think they are simplifying and removing ragdolls and ko animations all together. There will just be an overlay that says “KO!”.


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[WarMMA]

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I hate pulling this card; but I do train MMA.That is, I SHOULD be training MMA, right now I'm in bed with a cold, eating ice cream and feeling sorry for myself.

See so you're actually a guy on here with experience in the actual sport, yet ppl on here may think you're just some village idiot spouting his mouth off

[melo627]

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I think they are simplifying and removing ragdolls and ko animations all together. There will just be an overlay that says “KO!”.


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😂😂😂 I wouldn't be surprised at dis point

[Solid_Altair]

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exactly! just think about it for a sec - you can not ris up your hands to block (which is much more easier and faster) but can move you torse (sway) or entire body (lunge). Am i the only one who see this unnatural and not logical?!

Being able to slip sooner than being able to block, after throwig a basic punch is actually the general rule in the game. It doesn't apply only to this block counter scenario.

Again, think of this as a special stance mechanic.

[UFCBlackbelt]

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See so you're actually a guy on here with experience in the actual sport, yet ppl on here may think you're just some village idiot spouting his mouth off

a lot of people here train mma or some facet of it.

[MacGowan]

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ppl on here may think you're just some village idiot spouting his mouth off

Haha! Now I wonder why...

[RetractedMonkey]

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Blocking is pet forming not only by using your hands but shoulder and lowering your chin as well (which meets the hit)
You are wrong. Even more - every time when you are striking, the other your hand always defending blocking your chin and liver!
IRL Blocking is the 1st way to defend against fast strikes.
Sway good against large wind up strikes and series.
So this new counter strike mechanics is unrealistic and not logical.

Man, you're just totally off the mark here.

I'm going to address some of the things you've said breaking it up into paragraphs.

The first line of defense is footwork, the second is head movement, third is parrying/blocking.

Head movement is not the primary tactic against big and slow strikes. Simply not being there is. And once you establish that they only throw big strikes, your next move is countering either right before or right after they throw.

Blocking is not THE primary defense of fast strikes. It is ONE defensive choice. In theory, the better choice against faster strikes WOULD be to use head movement. In MMA, blocking all those strikes is nearly impossible because of the glove size. You can do pretty well if you have a good shell like Robbie Lawler, but most people end up being finished when they turtle up against a bunch of fast strikes.

Head movement can be used to counter someone being predictable or when you have a pattern recognized in order to dodge or counter, but more often than not (watch Jose Aldo) the fighter is already slightly moving their head in stance because having your head already in motion makes it easier to slip a punch. Anderson Silva's head movement wasn't him seeing every single punch and entering the Matrix. It's trickery. He was just moving his head in a left-right pattern, making minor adjustments when possible. That's how Chris Weidman caught him. He threw a same-side throwaway back hand to fool and overextend Silva for the next big hook.

Taking a hit to your guard and firing a shot off the side you just got hit is very common in traditional boxing. You have to establish the pattern and immediately fire the counter once you feel the hit on your glove.

Lunging to the front or side, it is natural to have your hands up in some capacity for a block, but going backwards with your hands up is not a natural movement. You don't lunge back with your arms up because it will stiffen you up and cut your length short. Lunging backwards is normally done just like the animation in game; lead hand down and right hand near the chin. You could probably Philly shell while lunging back, but that would still cut the distance.

[RomeroXVII]

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Man, you're just totally off the mark here.

I'm going to address some of the things you've said breaking it up into paragraphs.

The first line of defense is footwork, the second is head movement, third is parrying/blocking.

Head movement is not the primary tactic against big and slow strikes. Simply not being there is. And once you establish that they only throw big strikes, your next move is countering either right before or right after they throw.

Blocking is not THE primary defense of fast strikes. It is ONE defensive choice. In theory, the better choice against faster strikes WOULD be to use head movement. In MMA, blocking all those strikes is nearly impossible because of the glove size. You can do pretty well if you have a good shell like Robbie Lawler, but most people end up being finished when they turtle up against a bunch of fast strikes.

Head movement can be used to counter someone being predictable or when you have a pattern recognized in order to dodge or counter, but more often than not (watch Jose Aldo) the fighter is already slightly moving their head in stance because having your head already in motion makes it easier to slip a punch. Anderson Silva's head movement wasn't him seeing every single punch and entering the Matrix. It's trickery. He was just moving his head in a left-right pattern, making minor adjustments when possible. That's how Chris Weidman caught him. He threw a same-side throwaway back hand to fool and overextend Silva for the next big hook.

Taking a hit to your guard and firing a shot off the side you just got hit is very common in traditional boxing. You have to establish the pattern and immediately fire the counter once you feel the hit on your glove.

Lunging to the front or side, it is natural to have your hands up in some capacity for a block, but going backwards with your hands up is not a natural movement. You don't lunge back with your arms up because it will stiffen you up and cut your length short. Lunging backwards is normally done just like the animation in game; lead hand down and right hand near the chin. You could probably Philly shell while lunging back, but that would still cut the distance.

*sheds tear* well said!

[aholbert32]

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See so you're actually a guy on here with experience in the actual sport, yet ppl on here may think you're just some village idiot spouting his mouth off

Even with his experience, I still think Macgowan is the village idiot. :-)


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[MacGowan]

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Even with his experience, I still think Macgowan is the village idiot. :-)

You forgot LOL

[cal7_11]

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I hate pulling this card; but I do train MMA.
That is, I SHOULD be training MMA, right now I'm in bed with a cold, eating ice cream and feeling sorry for myself.


Chin should always be tucked, but fine.
Sure you can do Philly shell in MMA. lots of people do it.... like 4?
Sorry, I'm being glib. Shoulder rolling is not a block mechanic in this game. if anything it's closer connected to the minor sways and circling out. You can weather a storm in this game by getting hit as long as you are moving away from the punches. To me it looks kinda cool. shoulder rolling-ish when you are in the corner, swaying, blocking, ducking.

No, good sir, you are wrong.


GPD was talking about the same hand. right?
as the GIF shows, you are more vulnerable to a counter on the side you threw the punch from.


Chin AND liver at the same time? this is not boxing.

Cody is that you? Move your head off the center line.
number 1 defence is NOT BEING THERE. move in, move out, footwork, angles, slips, head movement! head movement!


Like a hook? like what we're talking about?

I'm gonna wait and play the patch first. I'm sure the devs are sitting by ready to emergency fix if there are large problems with the patch.

edit: Also sorry to Cody for using him as a joke. The footwork and head movement against Cruz is legit the greatest thing ever.

Great post. Glad you put the last part in too, Cody Cruz will forever be in my memory. Absolute artistry that fight.

[RomeroXVII]

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Waiting on patch spoilers: Feints are no longer counted as missed strikes.

[cal7_11]

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Have you guys thought about adding double up combos for boxing level 4 or 5?

Double lead hook
Double rear cross
Rear uppercut, rear cross
Lead body hook, lead uppercut
Lead body hook, lead hook

Would go well with this new patch

Not sure about the others but lead body hook, lead hook is already in and I think it’s a level 3 boxing combo.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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Have you guys thought about adding double up combos for boxing level 4 or 5?

Double lead hook
Double rear cross
Rear uppercut, rear cross
Lead body hook, lead uppercut
Lead body hook, lead hook

Would go well with this new patch

God yes please!! I love same side combos.
Saki has a ton of unique same side combos I kinda wish were available for high level boxing/Muay Thai

Stuff like lead uppercut-lead hook (you can lead hook into lead upper with high end.MT guys but you can only lead upper into lead hook with Saki)

2-3b-3
And just because its a freaking AWESOME combo, I wish his 3-3b-5.

The more same side combos the better IMO.

Also I'd love to see a 3-3b-Rear overhand combo, you can combo an overhand off 3 or 3b but I've not found a fighter who can throw 3-3b-8