Lets talk Zabhit

[Phillyboi207]

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I feel like y’all are overrating Zabit’s boxing. He has decent speed but no power. His strenth in the standup comes at kicking range.

Mendes, Ortega, Max wont give him that space. He also might be susceptable to leg kicks because he likes throwing straights and planting for his kicks.

I like the Moicano matchup a lot. Moicano has better boxing, similar length and great leg kicks. And I dont think Zabit could wrestle F him.

[Haz_____]

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Can we talk about Zabits character model?

I feel like it doesn't really look right at all. His hair is really off and he has a giant head.

[WarMMA]

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Can we talk about Zabits character model?

I feel like it doesn't really look right at all. His hair is really off and he has a giant head.

Yh he's off body size wise especially.

[WarMMA]

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I feel like y’all are overrating Zabit’s boxing. He has decent speed but no power. His strenth in the standup comes at kicking range.

Mendes, Ortega, Max wont give him that space. He also might be susceptable to leg kicks because he likes throwing straights and planting for his kicks.

I like the Moicano matchup a lot. Moicano has better boxing, similar length and great leg kicks. And I dont think Zabit could wrestle F him.

Yh I think Moicano would actually be a potential terrible match up for Zabit cuz of those kicks. Not sure, but they look like they were giving Zabit trouble in that last fight.

[cal7_11]

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Not sure why people think the leg kicks were causing Zabit trouble against Davis, he was switching stances constantly from the start. I’m not saying those kicks weren’t bothering him but the stance switching had nothing to do with it.

[Phillyboi207]

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Not sure why people think the leg kicks were causing Zabit trouble against Davis, he was switching stances constantly from the start. I’m not saying those kicks weren’t bothering him but the stance switching had nothing to do with it.

You should rewatch it

You could see him switching more often and immediately after some were landing.

I actually think that’s why he decided to start grappling

[OPSPunk]

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He was switching because they did hurt. You could see the redness. He often switched to back away so he wouldn’t eaten one in the way out. He would get closer in range then switch back when inside kicking range which showed he wasn’t really looking to attack southpaw. There was a reason he switched to grappling despite outbixing Davis

Also his boxing is on point. He doesn’t have scary power, but you don’t need to. He is crisp with good head movement. He knows how to pick his shots well and set his opponent up with traps. He hits hard enough where u need to respect it. Holloway is sort of like that. Except I think Zabit boxing is cleaner.

The one flaw I see is that he is good at everything but doesn’t really mix it together. He is either boxing, kickboxing wrestling or doing BJJ. He doesn’t transition between the arts the way say DJ, Jones or GSP do.

[Phillyboi207]

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He was switching because they did hurt. You could see the redness. He often switched to back away so he wouldn’t eaten one in the way out. He would get closer in range then switch back when inside kicking range which showed he wasn’t really looking to attack southpaw. There was a reason he switched to grappling despite outbixing Davis

Also his boxing is on point. He doesn’t have scary power, but you don’t need to. He is crisp with good head movement. He knows how to pick his shots well and set his opponent up with traps. He hits hard enough where u need to respect it. Holloway is sort of like that. Except I think Zabit boxing is cleaner.

The one flaw I see is that he is good at everything but doesn’t really mix it together. He is either boxing, kickboxing wrestling or doing BJJ. He doesn’t transition between the arts the way say DJ, Jones or GSP do.

Bro you just said he has better boxing than Holloway??? Lmao

And nobody respects his hands. Davis and Boschniak both walked him down. He has okay technique but his traps mosty consist of forcing opponents to walk into range due to his reach.

He doesnt really cut a lot of angles, but his defense is pretty good.

[OPSPunk]

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Bro you just said he has better boxing than Holloway??? Lmao

And nobody respects his hands. Davis and Boschniak both walked him down. He has okay technique but his traps mosty consist of forcing opponents to walk into range due to his reach.

He doesnt really cut a lot of angles, but his defense is pretty good.

I didn’t say better I said cleaner. His punches are technically cleaner. I throws the appropriate shots at the correct time. He definitely has better head movement. Holloway has more power.

Great examples. Bosniack walked him down when he had a broken hand. He didn’t land a clean shot. Davis walked him down. Didn’t land a clean shot and got hit. Those exact exchanges when looked at closely demonstrate how good his boxing is.

[Phillyboi207]

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I didn’t say better I said cleaner. His punches are technically cleaner. I throws the appropriate shots at the correct time. He definitely has better head movement. Holloway has more power.

Great examples. Bosniack walked him down when he had a broken hand. He didn’t land a clean shot. Davis walked him down. Didn’t land a clean shot and got hit. Those exact exchanges when looked at closely demonstrate how good his boxing is.

Where are you getting his punches are “technically cleaner” ? Holloway has very crisp boxing and is the perfect combination of speed, power, volume, footwork, head movement.

Those exchanges show how good his reach and defense are. Holloway gets in the pocket and still rarely gets hit clean. Dude is a master of deflecting shots, moving his head at the right time and firing back in the midst of a fire fight.

For Zabit to beat Holloway he’d have to out grapple him. Just look at Jack Slack’s analysis of the two. Holloway is a master of distance, pace and angles. Zabit always ends up retreating to the cage.

https://sports.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/xwkeak/zabit-magomedsharipov-tempering-talent-with-craft

https://sports.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/mbje88/how-max-holloway-killed-the-king

It’s hard to take an opinion serious when you think Zabit is cleaner for backing up against Boschniak and Davis but Max took it Jose mother fn Aldo lol.

[OPSPunk]

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Where are you getting his punches are “technically cleaner” ? Holloway has very crisp boxing and is the perfect combination of speed, power, volume, footwork, head movement.

Those exchanges show how good his reach and defense are. Holloway gets in the pocket and still rarely gets hit clean. Dude is a master of deflecting shots, moving his head at the right time and firing back in the midst of a fire fight.

For Zabit to beat Holloway he’d have to out grapple him. Just look at Jack Slack’s analysis of the two. Holloway is a master of distance, pace and angles. Zabit always ends up retreating to the cage.

https://sports.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/xwkeak/zabit-magomedsharipov-tempering-talent-with-craft

https://sports.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/mbje88/how-max-holloway-killed-the-king

It’s hard to take an opinion serious when you think Zabit is cleaner for backing up against Boschniak and Davis but Max took it Jose mother fn Aldo lol.

You clearly didn’t see the Aldo fight where he defended many punches with his face. His punches are good so i am not about to crap on Max. I just think he has cleaner combos where Holloway sometimes telegraphs and can get loopy with his strikes at times.

When he was against the cage he did some work. He avoided strikes and returned fire. He uses his length well when kicking not as much boxing. I actually think he likes to draw guys near the cage so he can eventually implement his grappling as I have seen him do this a few times.

I actually looked at the vids with Holloway call Aldo and once again I thought that Holloway has a great chin that will eventually catch up with him. In the second fight, I couldn’t help but wonder what would happen if Aldo had a full camp. Anyway, upon review I think Zabit is the better boxer with superior head movement and defense ability.

[OPSPunk]

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There was a hilight where max hit Aldo with a looping straight over Aldo left. If he went straight down the pike instead of looping over it might have been over. Sometimes we as fans get caught up in results and not focus on technique. That is why Woodley, Cruz, Bendo and certain champs were not appreciated as much as lesser fighters like Diaz, Perry and Gaethje. People just like the brutal results and don’t appreciate the beauty of the technique

[Phillyboi207]

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There was a hilight where max hit Aldo with a looping straight over Aldo left. If he went straight down the pike instead of looping over it might have been over. Sometimes we as fans get caught up in results and not focus on technique. That is why Woodley, Cruz, Bendo and certain champs were not appreciated as much as lesser fighters like Diaz, Perry and Gaethje. People just like the brutal results and don’t appreciate the beauty of the technique

So your analysis is based on highlights? Lol

Looping punches serve a purpose. Not everything should be straight down the middle especially against someone with head movement as good as Aldos. Look at what happened to Till on Sunday. Strikes down the middle are easier to counter with head movement since the trajectory is telegraphed.


There’s his crisp technique once he had Aldo too tired to counter.

If you think Zabit’s boxing in any area is on Holloway’s you dont understand boxing on a fundamental level. And I dont mean that as an insult. I am more than willing to go into detail about the differences and what Zabit lacks.

[WarMMA]

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Zabit has clean boxing and pretty good head movement tbh...he rarely get's hit. Is he as good as Max? Probably not, but he's not a bad boxer, he just seems to lack power and thats why guys aren't afraid to come forward. What you do have to watch for is Zabit's kicks. He's an outstanding kicker and when you give him space, that's when he's most dangerous. The most important part about Zabit though is that he has a complete game. He's good everywhere. I really can't wait to see him against some top lvl competition to see how he fairs.

[OPSPunk]

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So your analysis is based on highlights? Lol

Looping punches serve a purpose. Not everything should be straight down the middle especially against someone with head movement as good as Aldos. Look at what happened to Till on Sunday. Strikes down the middle are easier to counter with head movement since the trajectory is telegraphed.


There’s his crisp technique once he had Aldo too tired to counter.

If you think Zabit’s boxing in any area is on Holloway’s you dont understand boxing on a fundamental level. And I dont mean that as an insult. I am more than willing to go into detail about the differences and what Zabit lacks.

Actually I was using your own clips. But anyway. Bottom line is Zabit doesn’t get hit. Holloway beat Aldo 2x but based off him pulling out potentially for concussions his lack of head movement may cost him.

I agree 100% with warmma. Dudes overall game is sick. I think he cuts throw Holloway quite easily. I think Aldo lost in the second fight because he got tired and didn’t kick his legs