Connor vs Khabib the update after

[WarMMA]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

There are nothing but nightmare matchups for Connor the rest of the way.

Tony - good chin. But his reach, grappling and ca cardio are going to be a real problem. He is basically Diaz but with more weapons. Tony will be fueled by Connors mind games

Kevin Lee - his grappling is not too far off from Khabibs. More submission based. but his striking his waaay tighter. Another reach advantage. Conor’s only hope is if he gets staph. I actually think he is the best guy in the division. Conor’s mind games won’t work

Pettis- this is an interesting fight cuz I haven’t seen Connor face a better kicker. The more I analyze this is if dgaf pettis shows up it could get interesting. I do think Conor could get in his head

Poier will get merked again

Diaz won’t care enough. If he gets the pay day he will retire

GSP- the worst possible match for connnor. It’s not even worth talking about

Woodley-if he beats khabib he should call for this fight. Not sure he could win but might be interesting if Woodley plays that backup strategy. Conor becomes GOAT no questions asked with that win

Here's my take...

Tony - His reach and cardio make it interesting...also his ground skills. Idk if he's Diaz though cuz that dude can eat Conor's left hand all day if he had to.

Kevin Lee - Has really good grappling similar to Khabibs yes and absolutely nasty GnP. Nastier than Khabib's imo. He has some decent striking too but if we are being honest, he can't hang with Conor on the feet. His grappling and heavy GnP is what makes him a scary match. He also has a slick rear naked choke.

Pettis- Would be an interesting match up, but I really don't see him winning tbh. Ya never know though. Styles make fights.

Poier- Agree. Dustin loses again, but this is a crazy sport where you can never be sure about anything.

Diaz- Sure he'll fight Conor again for the big pay. They are tied one a piece now and in his win he finished Conor. What makes this such a nightmare match up though is Diaz chin and toughness. Conor can't put him away like others and he'll be there bloody and battered and still in Conors face bringing the fight. First fight he got a statement win. 2nd could arguably have went either way. This is definitely a rubber match I wanna see.

GSP- On paper, horrible match for Conor just cuz of his high lvl wrestling. That said, we haven't seen him at WW in a while though. But if it's the GSP of old coming into that match, Conor has his hands full.

Woodley- Scary match up cuz this guy hits hard and is also a counter striker in his own right. If he tags Conor flush with a hard right, Conor WILL get rocked, dropped, or slept guaranteed. Went 10 rounds with Wonderboy and finished Till. Dropped them both on the feet too, so he's no stranger to fighting counter strikers of high lvl. On top of this, he also can wrestle. In this match it would be similar to Woodley/Till imo. It's the left hand vs the right hand...either man lands clean and the other will be in trouble. Don't blink.

[OPSPunk]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

I think taking khabib down first is a great strategy....if you are Kevin Lee.

For Conor the temptation might be there when khabib is pressing forward. At that moment Conor would realize there ar levels to this game. Khabib would stuff him get a body lock and work him over for the remainder of that round. Maybe he tries it at the end of a round just to **** with him

[WarMMA]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

I think taking khabib down first is a great strategy....if you are Kevin Lee.

For Conor the temptation might be there when khabib is pressing forward. At that moment Conor would realize there ar levels to this game. Khabib would stuff him get a body lock and work him over for the remainder of that round. Maybe he tries it at the end of a round just to **** with him

An attempt at the end of a round is fine, but I say don't mess with it early in rounds. High risk of getting stuffed and put in the clinch or getting brought down to the mat frm a sprawl.

[Kingslayer04]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

An attempt at the end of a round is fine, but I say don't mess with it early in rounds. High risk of getting stuffed and put in the clinch or getting brought down to the mat frm a sprawl.

I think trying to take Khabib down is stupidity of the highest order. If he actually does it and pulls something off of it fair play to him, but for me it would be stupid as all hell. By the way, this discussion regarding the hypothetical scenario of Conor taking him down is as if that's his confirmed gameplan, straight out of Kavanagh's mouth .

[WarMMA]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

I think trying to take Khabib down is stupidity of the highest order. If he actually does it and pulls something off of it fair play to him, but for me it would be stupid as all hell. By the way, this discussion regarding the hypothetical scenario of Conor taking him down is as if that's his confirmed gameplan, straight out of Kavanagh's mouth .

Definitely not...that would be a silly gameplan. Just a what if scenario.

[Kingslayer04]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

Definitely not...that would be a silly gameplan. Just a what if scenario.

I know, I said that in jest.

The fight is so interesting though.

[FCB x Finlay]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

There are nothing but nightmare matchups for Connor the rest of the way.

Tony - good chin. But his reach, grappling and ca cardio are going to be a real problem. He is basically Diaz but with more weapons. Tony will be fueled by Connors mind games

Kevin Lee - his grappling is not too far off from Khabibs. More submission based. but his striking his waaay tighter. Another reach advantage. Conor’s only hope is if he gets staph. I actually think he is the best guy in the division. Conor’s mind games won’t work

Pettis- this is an interesting fight cuz I haven’t seen Connor face a better kicker. The more I analyze this is if dgaf pettis shows up it could get interesting. I do think Conor could get in his head

Poier will get merked again

Diaz won’t care enough. If he gets the pay day he will retire

GSP- the worst possible match for connnor. It’s not even worth talking about

Woodley-if he beats khabib he should call for this fight. Not sure he could win but might be interesting if Woodley plays that backup strategy. Conor becomes GOAT no questions asked with that win

Tony gets merked on the feet, far too hitable and his chin is questionable, his recovery is excellent though. Only way he win is by sub.

Kevin if conor shows his ground game vs khabib kevin gets merked also.

Pettis Will fight as kicking range, Conor will boot his legs in and finish him.

Porier glass chin

Woodley and GSP again come down to how he performs vs khabib. Matchups that might trouble conor are barboza if he kicks and keeps distance, stays out of boxing range. Gaethje if he doesnt get clips batters conors legs and wears him down.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

Tony gets merked on the feet, far too hitable and his chin is questionable, his recovery is excellent though. Only way he win is by sub.

Kevin if conor shows his ground game vs khabib kevin gets merked also.

Pettis Will fight as kicking range, Conor will boot his legs in and finish him.

Porier glass chin

Woodley and GSP again come down to how he performs vs khabib. Matchups that might trouble conor are barboza if he kicks and keeps distance, stays out of boxing range. Gaethje if he doesnt get clips batters conors legs and wears him down.

What is this? Lmao

Kevin Lee likely runs through him.Great reach, can operate from botb stances and will maul Connor on the ground. Woodley might literally kill Connor. Would look like the Till fight if we skip round 1. GSP would likely win by sub in round 3-4. Pettis is interesting but I think Connor takes it due to superior boxing and he’s great with pressure.

How does Poirier have a class chin? He just beat Gaethje and Eddie in a couple of tough fights. The rematch would be interesting for sure.

And how does Tony have a suspect chin? Took bombs from RDA and even Lee. Comes doen to whether Connor could put him away early. If not he’d gas trying and be done by round 2. Tbh I think it’d be like Nate vs Connor 1

[WarMMA]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

Tony gets merked on the feet, far too hitable and his chin is questionable, his recovery is excellent though. Only way he win is by sub.

Kevin if conor shows his ground game vs khabib kevin gets merked also.

Pettis Will fight as kicking range, Conor will boot his legs in and finish him.

Porier glass chin

Woodley and GSP again come down to how he performs vs khabib. Matchups that might trouble conor are barboza if he kicks and keeps distance, stays out of boxing range. Gaethje if he doesnt get clips batters conors legs and wears him down.

Agree for GSP, but not Woodley. Dude has ruthless ko power, is also a pretty good counter striker, has experience fighting high lvl strikers/counter strikers and has done well against them all. Dropped both Wonderboy and Till. Woodleys power and counter striking alone makes him more dangerous than Khabib. His wrestling is just a plus. Unlike other opponents, if he lands a flush hard shot, Conor's either rocked, dropped or out cold.

[Dankoz]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

It will be very interesting to see what happens after this fight.

If Connor wins - it will be the worst for this game. They will make his takedown defense unstoppable in game and it will justify this unrealistic imbalance between grappling and stand-up

If Khabib wins they will have to lower Connor TD.

I have analyzed the crap out of these two guys and it comes down to overall strategy and how Khabib reacts in three moments.

1. It will be when Connor throws that kick to the body early to establish range. Will Khabib put him on his *** then or at least keep coming forward. If he allows Connor to establish range with the kick it is game over

2. When Khabib enters boxing range. Many opponents have made the mistake of striking right away and they get countered. If he presses forward without striking. Connor is in a world of trouble.

3. Connor I think will eventually hit Khabib with a lead uppercut. I have seen him do 2 things in that situation. Freeze...in which case that will be game over for Khabib. I have also seen him level change and bully threw it which will be game over for Connor.

How Connor will react is most predictable. He will wilt under pressure and fade if things aren't going his way, especially late. He is a snake charmer who uses his kicks to set range and then he boxes primarily as a counter puncher. He is really yet to evolve since his debut.

Its all about how Khabib will react and he has grown. This is going to sound crazy but I think Khabib should have trained minimal boxing. Boxing instincts will make him retreat more than he should. He should be doing primarily wrestling. Those instincts will make him bite down and bring that relentless pressure. I would love to see him run at Connor...but unlike Aldo..dont throw a punch...pressure him to the cage.

If Khabib rushes forward without throwing anything he is going to lay knocked out on the canvas in 1st round.

[OPSPunk]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

If Khabib rushes forward without throwing anything he is going to lay knocked out on the canvas in 1st round.

Well the guy who rushed forward and threw punches got knocked out in 13 secs. He needs to pressure him

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

One thing I find really weird is everyone actin like Khabib is a terrible striker with no experience

Dude has been doin sambo his whole life.

He knows how to take a punch and how to defend himself. I just think their striking is more about looping punches to create clinch opportunities

[OPSPunk]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

One thing I find really weird is everyone actin like Khabib is a terrible striker with no experience

Dude has been doin sambo his whole life.

He knows how to take a punch and how to defend himself. I just think their striking is more about looping punches to create clinch opportunities

Conor does wrestling. There are levels to this. If they grapple connnor gets mauled if they stand khabib won’t do well

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

Conor does wrestling. There are levels to this. If they grapple connnor gets mauled if they stand khabib won’t do well

Connor started training grappling for MMA

Khabib has done Sambo his entire life meaning he has been grappling and striking since a child.

He’s not Connor on the feet but dudes talk about Khabib like he’s Demian Maia or something

[WarMMA]

Re: Connor vs Khabib the update after

Connor started training grappling for MMA

Khabib has done Sambo his entire life meaning he has been grappling and striking since a child.

He’s not Connor on the feet but dudes talk about Khabib like he’s Demian Maia or something

Most everyone in mma are fairly decent strikers, know how to take a punch and defend themselves. Afterall, they train. Sure he's not Demian Maia on the feet he's a better striker than that, but he's not a great striker either and he's going against one. Like OPSPunk said, there are lvls to this thing and those lvls tend to show when a guy that's just decent goes against a guy thats elite.