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  • Haz_____
    Banned
    • Aug 2018
    • 299

    #46
    Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

    Originally posted by RomeroXVII
    I won because I figured out a way to deal with it, but this is the thing: That is what you're generally forced to do if you want to acquire victory. The Meta should not be forced to do one thing to beat another.

    Remember Bobblehead Season and how you were forced to play if you wanted to win. You either had to concede to the bobbleheads or find another way. I never conceded.

    It is what it is at this point.

    Dude. This is my exact argument against goofy non stop combo spammers who abuse the combo & stamina system and just pressure you non stop with 3-5x more output than a real fight.

    Is that style cheating? No.
    Is that style beatable? Yes.

    The problem is that in order to beat it, you yourself have to now also play extremely unrealisticly. This turns whats supposed to be an MMA sports game into something else entirily.

    It's not that that style is OP. Its that it warps the meta into something thats not MMA, and is certainly not fun.

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    • bmlimo
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 1123

      #47
      Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

      Originally posted by Haz_____
      Dude. This is my exact argument against goofy non stop combo spammers who abuse the combo & stamina system and just pressure you non stop with 3-5x more output than a real fight.

      Is that style cheating? No.
      Is that style beatable? Yes.

      The problem is that in order to beat it, you yourself have to now also play extremely unrealisticly. This turns whats supposed to be an MMA sports game into something else entirily.

      It's not that that style is OP. Its that it warps the meta into something thats not MMA, and is certainly not fun.
      Turns in an arcade game... put all this thing that u wrote + the super extra speed for combo and we have a guilty gear game.

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      • RomeroXVII
        MVP
        • May 2018
        • 1663

        #48
        Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

        Originally posted by Haz_____
        Dude. This is my exact argument against goofy non stop combo spammers who abuse the combo & stamina system and just pressure you non stop with 3-5x more output than a real fight.

        Is that style cheating? No.
        Is that style beatable? Yes.

        The problem is that in order to beat it, you yourself have to now also play extremely unrealisticly. This turns whats supposed to be an MMA sports game into something else entirily.

        It's not that that style is OP. Its that it warps the meta into something thats not MMA, and is certainly not fun.
        Spot on bro.

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        • RomeroXVII
          MVP
          • May 2018
          • 1663

          #49
          Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

          Originally posted by GrimLeiper
          I think Sugata is labbing it, rather than resorting to it for wins.

          I won a few online fights earlier with it on, but as I thought before, it's a learning curve - I didn't feel any benefits of it. Sorry if I ruined someone's day... actually, I'm not.

          It's been introduced to allow visually impaired people to enjoy the game a little more. The only suggestion you've provided is to make it even harder for these people to see the screen. How is that a solution?

          To avoid you potentially matching up against someone who "abuses" this, you're willing to say FU to the people who benefit from this feature the most.

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          I said either that, or just have some form of verification so that they could only benefit from it.

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          • bmlimo
            MVP
            • Apr 2016
            • 1123

            #50
            Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

            Originally posted by RomeroXVII
            I said either that, or just have some form of verification so that they could only benefit from it.

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            Theres nothing we can do about that... what could prevent more is a matchmaking system looking always to put 2 haptic feedback guys against each other... i tryed to use offline i didn’t like at all

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            • RomeroXVII
              MVP
              • May 2018
              • 1663

              #51
              Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

              Originally posted by bmlimo
              Theres nothing we can do about that... what could prevent more is a matchmaking system looking always to put 2 haptic feedback guys against each other... i tryed to use offline i didn’t like at all
              That can work well.

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              • Evil97
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 1099

                #52
                Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                I like the haptic feedback. It gives me super powers against people who don't use it. If there was an option to completely cripple my opponent, I would turn that on as well.

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                • Counter Punch
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 949

                  #53
                  Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                  I don’t use haptic feedback.

                  That being said, it’s ironic that some of the people arguing against it the most also use the colorblind setting for their HUD and probably aren’t colorblind.
                  ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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                  • GrimLeiper
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 353

                    #54
                    Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                    Originally posted by Counter Punch
                    I don’t use haptic feedback.

                    That being said, it’s ironic that some of the people arguing against it the most also use the colorblind setting for their HUD and probably aren’t colorblind.
                    Are you telling me I'm up against people who can see the colours much better than me?

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                    • RetractedMonkey
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 1624

                      #55
                      Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                      Originally posted by Counter Punch
                      I don’t use haptic feedback.

                      That being said, it’s ironic that some of the people arguing against it the most also use the colorblind setting for their HUD and probably aren’t colorblind.
                      Except the colorblind mode doesn't effect gameplay. It just makes the meters less offensive to some people.

                      Can for just one day this board really think through logically before posting something as a "gotcha!"?

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                      • RomeroXVII
                        MVP
                        • May 2018
                        • 1663

                        #56
                        Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                        Originally posted by Counter Punch
                        I don’t use haptic feedback.

                        That being said, it’s ironic that some of the people arguing against it the most also use the colorblind setting for their HUD and probably aren’t colorblind.
                        ...that doesn't affect nothing but the aesthetics of the game.
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                        • Pappy Knuckles
                          LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 15966

                          #57
                          Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                          I never even knew this was a thing until it became a board topic a few months back. This **** sounds corny as hell, though. Might as well add QTE indicators that tell you exactly what your opponent is pressing too. Why not?

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                          • Counter Punch
                            Pro
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 949

                            #58
                            Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                            Originally posted by RetractedMonkey
                            Except the colorblind mode doesn't effect gameplay. It just makes the meters less offensive to some people.

                            Can for just one day this board really think through logically before posting something as a "gotcha!"?
                            So it provides an advantage over the default setting? The point I’m making is that the argument “its for disabled people” is insufficient logically. Do better.
                            ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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                            • kehlis
                              Moderator
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27738

                              #59
                              Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                              Originally posted by Counter Punch
                              So it provides an advantage over the default setting? The point I’m making is that the argument “its for disabled people” is insufficient logically. Do better.
                              It's a cosmetic change and nothing more. It literally offers no advantage and this is one of the worst reaches I've ever seen to "win" an argument.

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                              • RomeroXVII
                                MVP
                                • May 2018
                                • 1663

                                #60
                                Re: Why HAPTIC FEEDBACK is NOT a cheat, is realistic, needed for all + How to evolve

                                Originally posted by kehlis
                                It's a cosmetic change and nothing more. It literally offers no advantage and this is one of the worst reaches I've ever seen to "win" an argument.
                                I second this as well. Pretty illogical.
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