Let us see who our opponent is picking

[Solid_Altair]

Re: Let us see who our opponent is picking

Fair points

What about 2 different leaderboards? Pokemon has had a huge competitive following since forever and they use tiers to separate leaderboards.

So you could have a standard ranked experience and maybe a B and under one.

That also might increase the online playerbase since I think a lot more people would be interested in playing online for B and under. It would also drastically increase the viability of a lot of fighters.

I honestly expect the playerbase to grow with ESPN covering MMA now. As long as the game is released with a lot of positive coverage it has a ton of potential since MMA is becoming mainstream.

That would still split the player base big time, not just once, but once per weight class.

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Most games like mk11 have blind picks to avoid counter picks. Horrible idea.

this is a sports ‘sim’ not comparable to a fighting game

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this is a sports ‘sim’ not comparable to a fighting game

Doesn't matter. The skill is on you to win regardless of their pick. It ruins the competitiveness and hurts the strategy side of the game.

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Doesn't matter. The skill is on you to win regardless of their pick. It ruins the competitiveness and hurts the strategy side of the game.

In undisputed and fnc u could see who your opponent was choosing and it didn’t ruin anything

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In undisputed and fnc u could see who your opponent was choosing and it didn’t ruin anything

Those games also never were thinking about esports. This is a terrible idea. It would encourage too many mirror matches and would greatly hurt the games replayability

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Those games also never were thinking about esports. This is a terrible idea. It would encourage too many mirror matches and would greatly hurt the games replayability

how would it encourage mirror matches, because if someone chooses a top tier fighter the other might do the same to even the odds? sounds fair and more competitive to me

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in a real tournament setting obviously u can see who your opponent is gonna choose and no tournament player would be against the idea of counter picks so these arguments make absolute 0 sense

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how would it encourage mirror matches, because if someone chooses a top tier fighter the other might do the same to even the odds? sounds fair and more competitive to me

Many players use b fighters and do extremely well in ranked. It is a skill defiiency not a fighter pick issue. Your in favor of constant mirror matches? Many arent. It should be up to you to win regardless of who your opponent picks. Worst idea ive heard in a long time. It would kill ranked. Wed see even less b fighters than you do now. Youd get the opposite of what you want. If you need top tier guys its due to lack of skill

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Many players use b fighters and do extremely well in ranked. It is a skill defiiency not a fighter pick issue. Your in favor of constant mirror matches? Many arent. It should be up to you to win regardless of who your opponent picks. Worst idea ive heard in a long time. It would kill ranked. Wed see even less b fighters than you do now. Youd get the opposite of what you want. If you need top tier guys its due to lack of skill

how would it encourage more mirror matches when 90% of players use the same few fighters anyway?

i don’t use top tier fighters but i don’t see why would someone would be afraid of the other person ‘matching’ their pick

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does a real life tournament also encourage constant mirror matches? your argument makes no sense

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how would it encourage more mirror matches when 90% of players use the same few fighters anyway?

i don’t use top tier fighters but i don’t see why would someone would be afraid of the other person ‘matching’ their pick

Everyone would pick the exact same fighter. Its boring and unrealistic. What do you mean real life tournament? Like an mma tournament? You cant obviously fight yourself. Your argument is baseless

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no i mean a fighting game tournament where you’re playing each other in person.

obviously they can both see what character the other is using. yet no one has ever complained about that taking ‘strategy and competition’ out the game

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no i mean a fighting game tournament where you’re playing each other in person.

obviously they can both see what character the other is using. yet no one has ever complained about that taking ‘strategy and competition’ out the game

No they cant you can hide your pick.

[MartialMind]

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No they cant you can hide your pick.

I'm curious... How can you hide your pick in a real life gaming tournament where both players are playing next to each other? How does that work?

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[tomitomitomi]

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Counter-picking is definitely a thing in traditional fighting games but it mostly occurs after a match. It's also worth noting that learning a new character (especially at the highest level) takes hours of work whereas UFC characters are relatively similar.

Anyway I'm against the whole idea because I don't wanna wait around to face GSP anyway and this only seems to benefit people who enjoy using inferior characters (and like somebody mentioned, traditional fighting games try to make characters as balanced as possible).

I guess the best case scenario is that you could set a filter that makes it so you can only pick low tier fighters and deal with the long queues. Even then this would be problematic as characters like Costa/Almeida/Sonnen are clearly superior to other low tier fighters.