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  • Phillyboi207
    Banned
    • Apr 2012
    • 3159

    #31
    Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

    Honestly I’m happy they’re taking their time with a release date

    A lot of people complained about how “unfinished” UFC 3 was at release so I’d rather wait longer to get a more complete game.

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    • tomitomitomi
      Pro
      • Mar 2018
      • 987

      #32
      Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

      Originally posted by TGOne
      And make no mistake, this franchise is not even Resident evil or R* games for that matter and yet they're treating it being some kind of area 51 top secret information. It's is getting ridicilous.
      Sounds like I read it better than you did buddeh. The time gap between Resident Evil 3's announcement and release is about the same as what Alberto said has happened for UFC games so I don't see the issue here. Did it occur to you that they can push RE 3 so quickly because they spent 3 years in the dark working on RE 2 that the remake is based on?

      "People who already are interested"? The Spiderman game was insomniac first attempt, literally. Besides we have thousads of people interested in the UFC franchise, i mean take us in this forum as clear example, are we less worth?
      They gave the most popular Superhero franchise (one that has good track record for games) to a company that developed some of the most popular PlayStation titles for 3 consecutive console generations and it was released for one of the most commercially successful consoles of all time.

      How many of those 9 million people do you think knew about the Q&A, let alone played it? Similarly, this forum is a tiny minority of UFC 3 player base. They could release the game tomorrow with no gameplay footage and all 30 of us would buy it in a heartbeat.
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #33
        Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

        Originally posted by TGOne
        Well that's one of the main problem, they haven't even announced the game yet.
        Its a problem for the people here because they are impatient and want the news when they want it.

        Which I understand but EA really isnt doing anything different than what they always do. They always announce 3-4 mos before release. So all this means is that we arent 3-4 mos from release now. It doesnt mean the game will suck. It doesnt mean the game is going to be great. It doesnt mean that the game is going to be cancelled.

        It just means we arent 3-4 mos from release yet.

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        • TGOne
          Rookie
          • May 2016
          • 160

          #34
          Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

          Originally posted by Phillyboi207
          Honestly I’m happy they’re taking their time with a release date

          A lot of people complained about how “unfinished” UFC 3 was at release so I’d rather wait longer to get a more complete game.
          None of us in this thread are saying that this game should be rushed. All i'm saying is they could give us something (info wise). For starters they can "announce" the game.

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          • TGOne
            Rookie
            • May 2016
            • 160

            #35
            Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

            Originally posted by aholbert32
            Its a problem for the people here because they are impatient and want the news when they want it.

            Which I understand but EA really isnt doing anything different than what they always do. They always announce 3-4 mos before release. So all this means is that we arent 3-4 mos from release now. It doesnt mean the game will suck. It doesnt mean the game is going to be great. It doesnt mean that the game is going to be cancelled.

            It just means we arent 3-4 mos from release yet.
            Fair enough. That's precisely the problem with EA, they haven't exactly had the best trackrecord as of late, many thanks to their particular marketing strategy. Not saying the game will 100% with certainty flop, i just know from experience when info on a game is dragged out or follow a certain pattern, it's usually a red flag, the lack of confidence in their product. No game should be rushed to the public, but lack of info on their product isn't great either.
            Last edited by TGOne; 12-17-2019, 01:36 PM.

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            • SMOKEZERO
              Pro
              • Apr 2016
              • 818

              #36
              Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

              Continuing to speculate on the state of UFC development in a pessimistic manner, despite the entitled and immediate want for info on this game has been noted TGOne. Please chill out.


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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #37
                Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                Originally posted by TGOne
                Fair enough. That's precisely the problem with EA, they haven't exactly had the best trackrecord as of late, many thanks to their particular marketing strategy. Not saying the game will 100% with certainty flop, i just know from experience when info on a game is dragged out or follow a certain pattern, it's usually a red flag, the lack of confidence in their product. No game should be rushed to the public, but lack of info on their product isn't great either.
                Ill say this......it isnt a lack of confidence. The team is just chugging ahead and working on the game.

                I tend to have this discussion alot on OS. For example, lets say the game is coming out in June (similar to UFC 1). That means we are 6 1/2 mos from release. That would also mean that given how development tends to work, the game wouldnt be in great shape to show the greater public.

                Now they announce this week that the game is coming in June. No trailer because the game isnt trailer ready yet. No details about features because they tend to want the game to be closer to finish before they discuss those. But now you know a date and that the game is being released.

                Would that be enough for you and most people here? I tend to think it wouldnt. That the same level of frustration would remain.

                Thats why I've always thought its better to just start consistently dropping info 2-3 mos out (similar to what NBA 2k does) and with a beta. People get an announcement, a trailer and real info instead of spreading it over a half a year.

                Just my thoughts.

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                • Leiqueros
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                  • Oct 2019
                  • 371

                  #38
                  Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                  I am optimistic, personally if I have seen improvements in the game from UFC through UFC 2 to UFC 3, I agree there is much to improve, but I think UFC 4 will be better than 3, and hopefully it makes us forget even the UFC 3 undisputed that would be very good, but if not, I think it will be better than UFC 3

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                  • TGOne
                    Rookie
                    • May 2016
                    • 160

                    #39
                    Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                    Originally posted by tomitomitomi
                    Sounds like I read it better than you did buddeh. The time gap between Resident Evil 3's announcement and release is about the same as what Alberto said has happened for UFC games so I don't see the issue here. Did it occur to you that they can push RE 3 so quickly because they spent 3 years in the dark working on RE 2 that the remake is based on?



                    They gave the most popular Superhero franchise (one that has good track record for games) to a company that developed some of the most popular PlayStation titles for 3 consecutive console generations and it was released for one of the most commercially successful consoles of all time.

                    How many of those 9 million people do you think knew about the Q&A, let alone played it? Similarly, this forum is a tiny minority of UFC 3 player base. They could release the game tomorrow with no gameplay footage and all 30 of us would buy it in a heartbeat.
                    Don't think so. Really? How so? RE3 remake has already been announced and is supposedly being released in April. UFC 4 neither has a date nor has it been announced yet, so how do you exactly come to the conclusion that they follow similar time frame as EA UFC franchise? And for your info the first official trailer and info for RE2 remake was released back in E3 2018, the game was released in late januari 2019, that's 8 months in between, so much for the same timeframe. Aside from that it was announced back in 2015, and in 2016 in Capcoms 20th RE anniversary video they talked about the progress of the RE 2 remake aswell, so your argument doesn't add up. What are you talking about? RE 3 remake is not based on RE 2, it has different characters, different setting/enviorment, enemy types etc. The game was probably outsourced along with the development of RE2 remake, but still doesn't valid your argument any further.

                    The most popular superhero franchise is Batman, not Spiderman, besides the Arkham series where far more successfull as games than the Spiderman games released so far, again your argument doesn't add up. Having said that, it doesn't change the fact it was insomniacs first attempt of a Spiderman game. You act as if EA haven't got the experience of releasing quality titles in the past? Now if that's you logic, explain how Tony Hawk's pro skater became literally the most popular and successfull sport franchise (aside from FIFA) in history, a SKATER game mind you, are you going to tell me that skating is more popular than MMA? Their recepie for success was two things, authencity and content.

                    Well many, wouldn't it occur to you that maybe that information in Q&A on forums would reach famous youtubers that uses these references that cover these particular games and eventually reach to the masses thanks to their following "buddeh". I mean that's how i got my info on that particular game, i wasn't exactly active on the forums nor have i've been interested in Spiderman. No, not me i've made myself clear on numerous occasions that i would not pick UFC 4 up if it doesn't furfill certain criteria, because they have already made three games that ended up short, not to mention have a far longer development cycle than the rest of the sport franchises. You don't know me, and i advice you to stop taking people for granted. Some of us are not shills, or don't have our hands tied to critically assess a game.
                    Last edited by TGOne; 12-17-2019, 03:09 PM.

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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #40
                      Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                      Originally posted by TGOne
                      Now if that's you logic, explain how Tony Hawk's pro skater became literally the most popular and successfull sport franchise (aside from FIFA) in history, a SKATER game mind you, are you going to tell me that skating is more popular than MMA? Their recepie for success was two things, authencity and content.

                      Well many, wouldn't it occur to you that maybe that information in Q&A on forums would reach famous youtubers that uses these references that cover these particular games and eventually reach to the masses thanks to their following "buddeh". I mean that's how i got my info on that particular game, i wasn't exactly active on the forums nor have i've been interested in Spiderman. No, not me i've made myself clear on numerous occasions that i would not pick UFC 4 up if it doesn't furfill certain criteria, because they have already made three games that ended up short, not to mention have a far longer development cycle than the rest of the sport franchises. You don't know me, and i advice you to stop taking people for granted. Some of us are not shills, or don't have our hands tied to critically assess a game.
                      What data supports this? Tony Hawk had a great 6 yr run (99-05) but Madden and NBA2k's numbers have been consistently better for a longer period of time.

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                      • TGOne
                        Rookie
                        • May 2016
                        • 160

                        #41
                        Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                        Originally posted by aholbert32
                        What data supports this? Tony Hawk had a great 6 yr run (99-05) but Madden and NBA2k's numbers have been consistently better for a longer period of time.
                        That's because they have been around for far longer. There's not a single Madden game that has topped Tony hawks pro skater 1 and 2 in terms of sales, both where the second best selling game of the year in 99 and 2000. Having said that, i equate true success with rating, Tony Hawk's pro skater was the most successfull/highest rated sport game in history, atleast the first one and the sequel. Are you going to dispute that fact? I don't know if you where around playing those games, but i did. It was literally one of the most addictive and fun experiences i've ever had in a game. And this is coming from a soccer/MMA fan. Now that's how you pull the masses in to sell your game, even those who didn't know a diddly squat about skating picked that game up and respected skating, it changed a whole generation. Maybe the incompetent millenials in EA should learn a little bit about their blueprint.
                        Last edited by TGOne; 12-17-2019, 03:58 PM.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #42
                          Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                          Originally posted by TGOne
                          That's because they have been around for far longer. There's not a single Madden game that has topped Tony hawks pro skater 1 and 2 in terms of sales, both where the second best selling game of the year in 99 and 2000. Having said that, i equate true success with rating, Tony Hawk's pro skater was the most successfull/highest rated sport game in history, atleast the first one and the sequel. Are you going to dispute that fact? I don't know if you where around playing those games, but i did. It was literally one of the most addictive and fun experiences i've ever had. And this is coming from a soccer/MMA fan. Now that's how you pull them masses in, even those who didn't know a diddly squat about skating picked that game up and respected skating, it changed a whole generation. Maybe the incompetent millenials in EA should learn a little bit about their blueprint.
                          I've been playing video games since 1984....so I was around playing those games and I owned many of them. I'm not here to comment on how much fun or how addictive the game was.

                          I just wanted to know where you get those numbers from. The only place that regularly has that data is VGchartz (which I'm forced to use because its the only place to find consistent data). Its also impossible to use to compare the sales of recent games to old games because VGchartz doesnt track digital sales and digital sales account for over half the current sales right now.

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                          • Yaari
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 1496

                            #43
                            Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                            Eh, I dont know why people are worried about game being cancelled and things like that lol. Nothing strange is happening here. We just thought they had a predictable release pattern and it turns out they didnt.

                            It would be weird if the game got pushed back near its releasedate, but we never even got a official reveal yet. There are many reasons they could have decided to release it at a later time.


                            It only bothers me because I was looking forward to it, but its not a bad thing at all.

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                            • tomitomitomi
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2018
                              • 987

                              #44
                              Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                              Originally posted by TGOne
                              Don't think so. Really? How so? RE3 remake has already been announced and is supposedly being released in April. UFC 4 neither has a date nor has it been announced yet, so how do you exactly come to the conclusion that they follow similar time frame as EA UFC franchise?
                              UFC 3's reveal trailer was in November 2017 and it was launched in February 2018 (roughly 4 months) and RE 3 was announced in December 2019 and will be released in Aprill 2020 (okay 5 months you got me son).

                              Aside from that it was announced back in 2015, and in 2016 in Capcoms 20th RE anniversary video they talked about the progress of the RE 2 remake aswell
                              So why wasn't their radio silence for 2 years a red flag?

                              RE 3 remake is not based on RE 2, it has different characters, different setting/enviorment, enemy types etc. The game was probably outsourced along with the development of RE2 remake, but still doesn't valid your argument any further.
                              It's based on the engine and gameplay of RE 2 (not to mention they're reusing designs from the original game).

                              The most popular superhero franchise is Batman, not Spiderman, besides the Arkham series where far more successfull as games than the Spiderman games released so far, again your argument doesn't add up.
                              This Wiki list states that Spiderman has grossed more revenue but you are comparing two gargantuan franchises so it makes no difference which is number one. The point is that if you give a huge franchise to a good developer and promote it well then it will sell.

                              Having said that, it doesn't change the fact it was insomniacs first attempt of a Spiderman game.
                              It's really not that big of a deal though. That game is an amalgamation of tried and tested gameplay mechanics and elements that appeal to people. You're acting like they made an MMO and knocked it out of the park.

                              You act as if EA haven't got the experience of releasing quality titles in the past?
                              So why don't you trust their expertise now and let them market the game how they want?

                              Now if that's you logic, explain how Tony Hawk's pro skater became literally the most popular and successfull sport franchise (aside from FIFA) in history, a SKATER game mind you, are you going to tell me that skating is more popular than MMA? Their recepie for success was two things, authencity and content.
                              What exactly was "authentic" about Tony Hawk's Pro Skater? Someone like Haz is gonna have a heart attack if you come and state that THPS was realistic.

                              Well many, wouldn't it occur to you that maybe that information in Q&A on forums would reach famous youtubers that uses these references that cover these particular games and eventually reach to the masses thanks to their following "buddeh".I mean that's how i got my info on that particular game, i wasn't exactly active on the forums nor have i've been interested in Spiderman.
                              That is an anecdotal piece of evidence. If I were them, I'd rather contact a big gaming site (let's say IGN) because that will gain more attraction than their forum of 30 people.

                              No, not me i've made myself clear on numerous occasions that i would not pick UFC 4 up if it doesn't furfill certain criteria, because they have already made three games that ended up short, not to mention have a far longer development cycle than the rest of the sport franchises. You don't know me, and i advice you to stop taking people for granted. Some of us are not shills, or don't have our hands tied to critically assess a game.
                              I don't know if you are as critical as you think you are if you bought (what you consider to be) three underwhelming games in a row.
                              ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                              • RomeroXVII
                                MVP
                                • May 2018
                                • 1663

                                #45
                                Re: WHEN WILL WE RECIVE ANY NEWS ABOUT EA UFC 4?

                                Let EA take their time and be logically vocal with what you desire for the next game.


                                You guys saw what happened when UFC 3 was released too early, thank God for Geoff Harrower for implementing the dozens of patches and tuners, all of the gameplay updates and new tools added into the game, but God forbid we get the game at launch like that.

                                Be vocal with a purpose. Tell them what you want, how do you think something can be implemented and be reasonable.
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