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  • RyanFitzmagic
    MVP
    • Oct 2011
    • 1959

    #46
    Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

    Originally posted by Good Grappler
    Edit: like, you must not even watch MMA level of bizarre. Lol. Imagine literally not having any interest in simulating REAL fights in the most high tech MMA game ever made. “Nah who cares bro, using CAFs makes things interesting. Plus, we need to keep an inclusive culture! Not allowing CAFs excludes people!”
    You need to chill with this elitist BS, bro. Seriously.

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    • Good Grappler
      Pro
      • May 2018
      • 615

      #47
      Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

      Originally posted by Counter Punch
      Because of my job, I’ve watched almost every PPV for the last 7 years, with very few exceptions.

      I personally favor realism. I think that striving for realism creates balance because MMA is naturally a balanced sport.

      I’m addressing the people disingenuously saying it’s about balance when it’s clearly not. Many of those same people who have shot down every suggestion I and a lot of others have made about realism in the name of “balance” and not ruining the “meta” a higher levels of competitive play. Realism has never matter until now when they can’t make a competitive or balance argument against something they don’t like.
      Okay so basically you have a chip on your shoulder that’s why you’re opposing this initiative? You don’t even disagree, you’re just mad people didn’t notice your suggestions on the last game? Come on now. Let’s focus on this issue now. Sign the damn petition and let’s get Batman and Robin out of ranked.
      Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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      • Good Grappler
        Pro
        • May 2018
        • 615

        #48
        Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

        Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
        "Any means possible" is always the name of the game in ranked, in any video game that has ever existed. Let's not pretend that CAFs in ranked is gonna change that.

        Don't act like people wouldn't take a patient, methodical fighter like Jon Jones and throw at a higher volume than Holloway did against Ortega.
        Look I know that playing to win is always the prerogative. My point is that with Roster Only, “playing to win” is a much more realistic process based upon playing to your opponent’s strengths and weaknesses. Whereas with CAFs present, it’s a much cheesier, “anything goes” dynamic.
        Last edited by Good Grappler; 07-13-2020, 02:10 AM.
        Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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        • Counter Punch
          Pro
          • Apr 2018
          • 949

          #49
          Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

          Originally posted by Good Grappler
          Okay so basically you have a chip on your shoulder that’s why you’re opposing this initiative? You don’t even disagree, you’re just mad people didn’t notice your suggestions on the last game? Come on now. Let’s focus on this issue now. Sign the damn petition and let’s get Batman and Robin out of ranked.
          Absolutely not. It’s not about me or my ego at all. It’s deeper than that. It’s about the inability to move the game in a certain direction. It’s about the philosophy shared by plenty of people on here about realism. Many of the people I’m referring to are gamechangers and highly ranked competitive players. They don’t think realism is important. Well, here you go a more balanced, super unrealistic change has been made to the game.
          ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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          • Good Grappler
            Pro
            • May 2018
            • 615

            #50
            Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

            And I apologize for getting heated here and there, I got no issues with any of you. It’s a game at the end of the day. I just been looking forward to this for years and now I find out I’m gonna be playing against “Relaxed Guysuks”, with blue and red skin. Oh and I get to pick Ben Askren every Tuesday.

            Like, what in the actual ****.

            And then I come on here and see people like
            “Oh bro it’s actually a good idea because uhh, it just totally is dude. Realism doesn’t matter. Spiderman probably had good takedown defense anyways”

            And I’m like WTF.

            I mean ****. If I gotta play against Spiderman, so be it. I’ll be testing his takedown defense every Tuesday, when Brian Hayes lets me pick Ben Askren
            Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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            • Sirsunny
              Rookie
              • Sep 2017
              • 130

              #51
              Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

              Well since I did only have seen like 4 seconds of gameplay I will wait until I have played the beta to see how balanced and deep the create a fighter mode is. I may sound like a filthy casual but if the caf system is well balanced and barely top 10 material then it could keep things fresh also, sometimes I really hated it to play against the notorious time after time.

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              • LarsP
                Pro
                • Mar 2016
                • 720

                #52
                Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                You've got to admire the fact that they had multiple meetings, brainstorm sessions and whatnot over the past 2 years, and nobody on the team came to the realization that everybody over the age of 12 was going to hate this, truly mindblowing.

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                • oilersfan365
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 296

                  #53
                  Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                  Originally posted by Good Grappler
                  We’re not saying that wouldn’t be cool - we’re just saying that there should be a separate mode for that.

                  Our stance is simply that there needs to be a ranked mode for roster fighters only. It’s just a classic staple of MMA gaming that shouldn’t be removed.
                  I disagree. If the CAFs archetype ratings are equal to those of a roster fighter I have no problem with this what so ever.

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                  • oilersfan365
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 296

                    #54
                    Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                    Originally posted by Good Grappler
                    And I apologize for getting heated here and there, I got no issues with any of you. It’s a game at the end of the day. I just been looking forward to this for years and now I find out I’m gonna be playing against “Relaxed Guysuks”, with blue and red skin. Oh and I get to pick Ben Askren every Tuesday.

                    Like, what in the actual ****.

                    And then I come on here and see people like
                    “Oh bro it’s actually a good idea because uhh, it just totally is dude. Realism doesn’t matter. Spiderman probably had good takedown defense anyways”

                    And I’m like WTF.

                    I mean ****. If I gotta play against Spiderman, so be it. I’ll be testing his takedown defense every Tuesday, when Brian Hayes lets me pick Ben Askren
                    I want to startch Ben Askren with aCAF that I made look like my self.

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                    • oilersfan365
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 296

                      #55
                      Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                      My only issue would be why can't we create 100 overall CAFs just for offline play.

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                      • Water Planet
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 56

                        #56
                        Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                        Originally posted by Zyaf
                        Why does that matter? Wasn't a huge point of promotion in this game the realism? How is this more realistic? All it does is ruin the immersion of the game.
                        Why should I have to use the top fighters in ranked to be better than some made up created fighter that's never fought a day in their life? Why should I have to use Petr Yan in order to beat someone using Batman in ranked?
                        No one has ever been Stipe or DC, we are using avatars at the end of the day, so it makes sense for the imagination. I think maybe an option to toggle CAF off before we start the matchmaking would be good. That way it satisfies everyone

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                        • Water Planet
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2020
                          • 56

                          #57
                          Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                          Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
                          To be fair, I can't remember EA ever promoting that this game will be hugely realistic. They know what they're doing and who they're catering to. It's a business, and they're trying to make money.
                          True, they could lose their contract or money trying to be strictly militant to what a certain group wants.

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                          • Water Planet
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 56

                            #58
                            Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                            Originally posted by Counter Punch
                            Absolutely not. It’s not about me or my ego at all. It’s deeper than that. It’s about the inability to move the game in a certain direction. It’s about the philosophy shared by plenty of people on here about realism. Many of the people I’m referring to are gamechangers and highly ranked competitive players. They don’t think realism is important. Well, here you go a more balanced, super unrealistic change has been made to the game.
                            To be fair UFC 3 is a cheese fest especially at the top and just because some players are higher ranked doesn't mean they should get what they want while destroying or removing what others may want. Some people don't have the time to invest all the hours in this game. I appreciate gamechanger but they aren't the UFC police

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                            • Sirsunny
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 130

                              #59
                              Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                              At least I hope the caf system received a huge update in terms of hairstyles and face editing, body types and the list goes on.
                              I mean common, I have regular short hair but there is not a single hairstyle that matches it. I do think they have fixed this because on the emphasis on caf this tear.
                              I know it is not a popular opinion here but I always like to create a lot of different fighter in a realistic manner so I also dont mind to use them in ranked. They could leave the animal stuff out if I had to say so but it is what it is.
                              Also hope that they update or made it easier to work with ea gameface.

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                              • TheDarkCityDevil
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2020
                                • 23

                                #60
                                Re: PETITION TO REMOVE CAFS FROM ROSTER RANKED.

                                Signed and shared.

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