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  • Ka5eL
    Rookie
    • Jun 2020
    • 56

    #1

    I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

    I was expecting a generational leap from 4, EA UFC rebuilt on a new engine, I did not expect a copy of the same game but about 5 times worse, even clunkier, even jankier, even laggier.. How?


    EA UFC 1 2 3 and 4 were already the least responsive and buggiest AAA games in history of gaming, how is it not only not better, but worse?


    How is it that on a new engine, you have the same bugs? Stances switch by itself after being against the cage or get up or clinch, but if I press stance switch it doesn't work until I double or triple press and it switches twice while being defenseless?


    You can't even get the quick chat options remain on 1 side? How does that bug even happen and still not get fixed?


    I've never imagined they would **** things up THIS bad when they acquired the license from THQ. I stopped playing 1 day after release because it was that bad, and now redownloaded and nothing been fixed still?


    Is there any word on wtf is going on with these devs? Did they officially give up on making it playable? I hope they can at least make striking to be as bad as 4 instead of worse, because that was at least fun sometimes.. in 5 there's no fun whether I win or lose
  • Freakywwe
    Pro
    • Sep 2014
    • 845

    #2
    Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

    Can't say I'm experiencing any of this. This is the smoothest UFC game EA has released that I've played. Lag online was unbearable at release but seems to have gotten better in the most recent patch, I only have the occasional match turn into a slide show.

    Switch stance works fine for me? Can't say I've ever needed to press it more then once to switch my stance, but I switch stances constantly so maybe I just don't notice it

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    • RollTideRoll0929
      Rookie
      • Jun 2019
      • 330

      #3
      Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

      Originally posted by Ka5eL
      I was expecting a generational leap from 4, EA UFC rebuilt on a new engine, I did not expect a copy of the same game but about 5 times worse, even clunkier, even jankier, even laggier.. How?


      EA UFC 1 2 3 and 4 were already the least responsive and buggiest AAA games in history of gaming, how is it not only not better, but worse?


      How is it that on a new engine, you have the same bugs? Stances switch by itself after being against the cage or get up or clinch, but if I press stance switch it doesn't work until I double or triple press and it switches twice while being defenseless?


      You can't even get the quick chat options remain on 1 side? How does that bug even happen and still not get fixed?


      I've never imagined they would **** things up THIS bad when they acquired the license from THQ. I stopped playing 1 day after release because it was that bad, and now redownloaded and nothing been fixed still?


      Is there any word on wtf is going on with these devs? Did they officially give up on making it playable? I hope they can at least make striking to be as bad as 4 instead of worse, because that was at least fun sometimes.. in 5 there's no fun whether I win or lose
      Agree with most of what you said. From what others have said, that split second delay from when you press a button and your fighter actually throwing a strike is there by design. I couldn't tell you why this is the case but from what others have said, it's not some bug or glitch, instead it's programmed that way. To me, the biggest disappointments in this game are all the details and elements that were in the other EA UFC games that are mysteriously absent from UFC 5. Why is Herb Dean the only referee?? Why is the roster exactly the same as UFC 4? Why did they remove the ability to throw follow up strikes when you land a KO while standing? Why did they completely butcher the fighter introductions??? Pride mode has been one of the most requested additions to this game since um....EA UFC 1, and they still haven't added Pride mode, but they kept the Kumite mode that nobody seemed to want or ask for. There's just so many poor design choices in this game, top to bottom, it's like the dev team is clueless on what we want, yet forums like this one, their Discord, Reddit, etc. are full of tons of feedback from the community. And the devs post on here so I know they see the feedback, so the only rational explanation is they do not care about the community, they were just hoping to coast along sales wise like they did with UFC 4.

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      • bmlimo
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 1123

        #4
        Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

        Originally posted by RollTideRoll0929
        Agree with most of what you said. From what others have said, that split second delay from when you press a button and your fighter actually throwing a strike is there by design. I couldn't tell you why this is the case but from what others have said, it's not some bug or glitch, instead it's programmed that way. To me, the biggest disappointments in this game are all the details and elements that were in the other EA UFC games that are mysteriously absent from UFC 5. Why is Herb Dean the only referee?? Why is the roster exactly the same as UFC 4? Why did they remove the ability to throw follow up strikes when you land a KO while standing? Why did they completely butcher the fighter introductions??? Pride mode has been one of the most requested additions to this game since um....EA UFC 1, and they still haven't added Pride mode, but they kept the Kumite mode that nobody seemed to want or ask for. There's just so many poor design choices in this game, top to bottom, it's like the dev team is clueless on what we want, yet forums like this one, their Discord, Reddit, etc. are full of tons of feedback from the community. And the devs post on here so I know they see the feedback, so the only rational explanation is they do not care about the community, they were just hoping to coast along sales wise like they did with UFC 4.
        strong points, its like ea ufc 3 was the peak and now we are at the downfall gameplay is the same that we have in ufc 4 but they butchered every single progress they made on patches its like every new game they erase the improvements made in the patches than to it all over again so they dont get pushed to put new things

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        • noahking
          Rookie
          • Jan 2024
          • 6

          #5
          Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

          I think this is the smoothest UFC game EA has released that I've played.

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          • rob3563
            Rookie
            • Mar 2016
            • 365

            #6
            Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

            I am offline only and UFC 5 is the smoothest by far for me and the AI is way better than previous games,even on Hard difficulty the CPU is still a challenge. Once tracking and camera problems are fixed UFC 5 will be by far the best and i am loving the ground game with the struggle mechanic R1 and no mini game.

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            • SUGATA
              MVP
              • Apr 2016
              • 1375

              #7
              Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

              Originally posted by rob3563
              I am offline only and UFC 5 is the smoothest by far for me and the AI is way better than previous games,even on Hard difficulty the CPU is still a challenge. Once tracking and camera problems are fixed UFC 5 will be by far the best and i am loving the ground game with the struggle mechanic R1 and no mini game.
              Do you like Clinch and how it is simplified (much less options, no Judo style) vs EA UFC 3?
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              • tomitomitomi
                Pro
                • Mar 2018
                • 987

                #8
                Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                Originally posted by SUGATA
                Do you like Clinch and how it is simplified (much less options, no Judo style) vs EA UFC 3?
                UFC 3's clinch was (rightfully) the most frequent complaint about the game.
                ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                • Ajax79
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2023
                  • 50

                  #9
                  Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                  Originally posted by SUGATA
                  Do you like Clinch and how it is simplified (much less options, no Judo style) vs EA UFC 3?
                  One of my biggest gripes is the lack of a clinch. Especially up against the cage. The game moves at lightning speed often times. Clinching up in 4 or 5 doesn't do anything to slow the pace IMO. So you're stuck shooting a single with Wonderboy to kinda reign things in for a min to collect and reset.

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                  • rob3563
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 365

                    #10
                    Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                    UFC 5 could have more clinch transitions but i went back to UFC 3 and found it felt too slow and needed to be much faster to make it enjoyable.

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                    • SUGATA
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1375

                      #11
                      Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                      Originally posted by rob3563
                      UFC 5 could have more clinch transitions but i went back to UFC 3 and found it felt too slow and needed to be much faster to make it enjoyable.
                      Clinch must to be slower as it is irl.
                      Clinch not always for attack, but to regain endurance too.
                      UFC 3 clinch used _almost_ the same Dynamic Grappling system as on Ground - and this was cool, b/c brought depth and diversity in Clinch game: Judokas ans wrestlers have advantage in SC and DU clinch positions.Ground evolution in UFC was awesome.
                      But now all this depth is wasted.
                      For example: UFC 5 does not have Clinch attempt denial. You are forced to Sway to counter Clinch attempt (loose more stamina) instead of simple detour opponent's hands (by Grapple block in UFC 3) = broken balance in UFC 5.

                      Why? for more "dynamic" with less depth and less features - i dont think this is right direction, it breakes balance between strikers and wrestlers.

                      I said how to modify the Clinch game in UFC 3, but unfortunately devs simply removed the entire system, instead of evolving it (seems to make things more simple and casual friendly):


                      All CLINCH ISSUES + How to fix them
                      Last edited by SUGATA; 01-22-2024, 05:09 AM.
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                      • fishingtime
                        Handling it
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 1738

                        #12
                        Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                        Are you all starting to understand why I quit playing into EA UFC 2? The game was just not competitive for everyone. It looked good, but wasn't responsive. I understand you are supposed to be able to anticipate strikes, but not take so long to be able to react. Especially when your opponent always seemed to see a completely different game. The latency was always an issue. Geoff Harrower tried his best and helped make a decent game, but he wasn't looking in the right direction competitively. Online and offline are two completely different animals. They should alternate yearly for specific online and offline games. There's a market for both. They can still use the same format but different patches, etc. Online needs different adjustments then offline. You see a game like Counterstrike last over 20 years with just updates. Figure that out. You don't need entire new builds. Just updates on what you have already done. It's a money grab. Add new trunks and gear you can make as micro-transactions to help fund it. Stop making it have to be relearned every game. You lose your casuals by dumbing down the game. No one wants to be treated like they are stupid. The pros are done with the game in a couple months anyway.
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                        • ODogg
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 37953

                          #13
                          Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                          IMO this game is worlds better than UFC 4, I've already played this title about 10 times more. To each their own.
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                          • kingsofthevalley
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                            • May 2011
                            • 1964

                            #14
                            Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                            Just got a few rounds in my career mode today. The striking impact ( especially the look and feel of the punches) is great! If they would just fix the movement / footwork this game would most certainly live in my top 5 combat sports games ever.

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                            • AggelosP
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2021
                              • 80

                              #15
                              Re: I am shocked at how much worse the gameplay is in comparison to UFC 4...

                              The game is already much better than UFC 4 ever was. Just look at the direction each game was aiming for. The negatives this game has is mostly remnants from UFC 4.
                              Credits to the devs for getting the direction of the franchise back on tracks to a realistic MMA experience.

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