UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

**Seymour Scagnetti** · 05-12-2009, 09:25 PM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

Originally posted by wilsfaber

thanks - this was helpful. I also had someone show me a nice method of doing the SHINE ultra-fast on PS3 (may or may not be common knowledge, IDK I'm not a real gamer so it was new news to me). putting the controller in between both hands (with your hands positioned like you are clapping) and using the palm of your right hand to rotate the R stick, while the back of the controller is against the left hand palm. not sure if that explains it well, but it helped me to do the shine much faster.

Here's a video with the producer explaining subs that's similar to the article, but helps a little with the visuals..

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I think the big problem with your new shine method is trying to explain all those new blisters on your palm.

LP · 05-12-2009, 09:44 PM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti

I think the big problem with your new shine method is trying to explain all those new blisters on your palm.

Rope burn

I actually think button mashing is more effective. I cant do the "shine" for some reason.

**MC Fatigue** · 05-12-2009, 09:49 PM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

I don't even bother trying submissions anymore. In fact, I don't think I'll ever sink one in against the computer - doesn't matter how much I wear Liddell out, or how injured he is, he ALWAYS escapes immediately.

I'll get full mount, block 5-6 transition attempts, and bash his face in a few times in between them - then when I go for the triangle, he just rolls right out of it with no problems. Every single time.

**baumy300** · 05-12-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by Timmay

I don't even bother trying submissions anymore. In fact, I don't think I'll ever sink one in against the computer - doesn't matter how much I wear Liddell out, or how injured he is, he ALWAYS escapes immediately.

I'll get full mount, block 5-6 transition attempts, and bash his face in a few times in between them - then when I go for the triangle, he just rolls right out of it with no problems. Every single time.

I know man, I definitely know...

You would think that just once you would possibly luck out, but you never do.

**GSW** · 05-12-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Timmay

I don't even bother trying submissions anymore. In fact, I don't think I'll ever sink one in against the computer - doesn't matter how much I wear Liddell out, or how injured he is, he ALWAYS escapes immediately.

I'll get full mount, block 5-6 transition attempts, and bash his face in a few times in between them - then when I go for the triangle, he just rolls right out of it with no problems. Every single time.

ive just been trying to see how badly i can cut him now.

ive given him some pretty nasty gashes.

**sirjam** · 05-12-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Phobia

The important thing to remember is that fatigue does not mean draining a opponent for rounds on end. You can fatigue a fighter in only a couple moves. So flash submissions are there. I have had quite a few first round subs lately. It all stems from a couple areas.

With Chuck, slams take off a good chunk of stamina. Then once you gain dominate position, blocking a few transitions is all it takes to get them wore out and ready for a sub. Fastest sub vs a human has been around 1:00 min into the first round. With out throwing a single punch.

Guys like Matt Hughes, should be able to sink in that Kimora or rear naked choke with a slam and then a little ground control then not over exerting yourself. I really think the sub game is perfect for the online game. Maybe against the CPU it needs some tweaking.

So whats the best way to get a early submission using Shogun?

**lwilhelm** · 05-13-2009, 02:43 AM

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The demo is really nice..

**Phobia** · 05-13-2009, 08:46 AM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

Originally posted by sirjam

So whats the best way to get a early submission using Shogun?

Very simple. First take Chuck down on his back. Once you are in his guard. Transition block, everytime he tries to change position or throw you off it drains stamina. Don't over exert yourself throwing punches. Make your pass to side control. From there land a couple elbows just to keep the ref from standing yall up. Transition block his attempts he will try to get up a good bit in this position. Then when the opening shows, take the mount. Once in the mount just focus on transition blocking. Chuck will freak out and go try to get you off over and over and over and over. Land some punches here and there inbetween, after he has continued to try to get you off for the 7th - 8th attempt. You should have been resting on the top, then hold LB and click the stick for the sub. It will roll him over for the triangle. SPIN the right stick. Put the stick in the middle of your palm and spin it in fast fast smooth circles.

Chuck will be exhausted from struggling to get you off and weak. You will be strong and fresh from sitting on top. If you spin the stick smooth you should get alot more tapouts in the first round.

Now this is just against the CPU. Versus a human you can almost submitted them at any point.

**allBthere** · 05-13-2009, 11:37 AM

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The only thing I can't do is sweeps or reversals. I don't get the timming and the description of 'flicking the stick' doesn't really work for me. I've become very good at the game, but this is the only part I haven't been able to master. (or actually even perform once)

**Stumbleweed** · 05-13-2009, 11:42 AM

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I noticed that there are reversals that aren't mentioned in the transition commands, but you trigger them by holding LB and doing a transition. I noticed it when I was controlling Rua on defense and Chuck had me in side control -- I did an LB transition and flipped him over and ended up in side control myself. There are sweeps out of nearly every position with Rua, including full mount... I was able to turn the tables on Chuck last night despite him having mount --- I just blocked for a bit and then timed the sweep and ended up in mount. I haven't messed with it as much with chuck, but he has them in most positions as well, they're just different (more power and less finesse, like most things).

**Gotmadskillzson** · 05-13-2009, 11:49 AM

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Yeah it is quite a lot of moves that aren't mentioned in the command list. Maybe because it was a demo and they simply forgot to mention it or something they were just saving for the strategy guide.

But literally everything can be reversed and countered in this game from any position.

**MC Fatigue** · 05-13-2009, 11:52 AM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

Originally posted by Stumbleweed

I noticed that there are reversals that aren't mentioned in the transition commands, but you trigger them by holding LB and doing a transition. I noticed it when I was controlling Rua on defense and Chuck had me in side control -- I did an LB transition and flipped him over and ended up in side control myself.

That's listed in the controls - it's his signature major transition. It's right at the bottom of the controls list with the gray UFC logo beside it - LB + 1/2 circle.

**Brandwin** · 05-13-2009, 12:03 PM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

Do you have to turn the stick or push buttons when doing submissions?

**allBthere** · 05-13-2009, 12:18 PM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

Originally posted by Timmay

That's listed in the controls - it's his signature major transition. It's right at the bottom of the controls list with the gray UFC logo beside it - LB + 1/2 circle.

yeah, sorry I can do those at will, i really meant sweeps only or grapple-counters. I've never done one becaue I don't get the timming or how to 'flick' the RS. I've tried it a few different ways too.

**MC Fatigue** · 05-13-2009, 12:20 PM

Re: UFC 2009 Undisputed Demo Impressions

Originally posted by allBthere

yeah, sorry I can do those at will, i really meant sweeps only or grapple-counters. I've never done one becaue I don't get the timming or how to 'flick' the RS. I've tried it a few different ways too.

I'm not sure if you meant to quote me - I was just letting stumble know that those are listed in the controls.

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