UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

[MizzouBravesFan]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Another guy that I think could give Machida a possible challenge is Gegard Mousasi. I would loooooooooove to see this one go down.

Agreed, how he isn't in the UFC already is a sham...he and Arona need to be there.

[Wet Bandit]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

That's because the level of the Middleweight Division at that time was absolutely garbage. David Loiseau? Nate Quarry? Ken Shamrock? Curtis Stout? An over the hill Evan Tanner? Come on now.

Anderson was and is on a different level than Franklin but anyone with a brain could see that from a mile away.

At the time, Franklin and Hendo were the consensus 1/2 in the division, the only argument was which was 1 and which was 2.

It's easy to discount some of that competition, but someone like Loiseau, he looked great leading up to his fight with Franklin and everyone thought he was a legit contender until Franklin destroyed him.

And let's keep in mind, it's not like Franklin has been exposed. Despite his losses to Silva he's still beating everyone else the middleweight division has with the exception of a close split decision loss to Hendo, which only reinforces those two being 1/2 in the division until Anderson came along and showed there was another level (a level he was decidedly not at earlier in his career).

[SHO]

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And let's keep in mind, it's not like Franklin has been exposed. Despite his losses to Silva he's still beating everyone the middleweight division has with the exception of a close split decision loss to Hendo, which only reinforces those two being 1/2 in the division until Anderson came along and showed there was another level (a level he was decidedly not at earlier in his career).

This.

Franklin was never overrated, Silva was simply just that much better than the rest of the division.

[BSanders]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

We are arguing Top 3, not Top 5. Silly goose. Machida's Top 5, but not Top 3.

I don't disagree on that... Fedor,GSP and Frank Dux.I know one thing some of us need to calm down after a ppv including myself because emotions are running wild and we start to sound like Sherdog. So I'll bow out of this discussion and just say this.... I was entertained with the main event and it was well worth it.

[Wet Bandit]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I see it this way people can be in denial that Machida is a good fighter and isn't a top fighter but next time people see him fight they will see the LHW Champion that KO'd the guy that beat Forrest and guess what Forrest beat Rampage so..... Let's be honest Machida could go down the line and KO all the LHW fighters and guess what people will still hate on him just like they do Fedor. I'll go by what Dana said he is the best 205er.

Unless you're trying to suggest someone here is hating on Fedor, that's a really odd argument to inject into the discussion.

[DTX3]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Why are you guys talking about Silva vs Machida? Anderson got his hands full with Forrest man, if there's ANYONE who can hang and even knock out Anderson, it's Forrest.

[SHO]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

No one really hates Fedor unless they truly blinded by ZUFFA propaganda, but I think they simply hate Fedor's fans. Same thing with Machida for the most part.

[DTX3]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

We are arguing Top 3, not Top 5. Silly goose. Machida's Top 5, but not Top 3.

Fedor
GSP
Machida
Silva
Torres

[BSanders]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

Unless you're trying to suggest someone here is hating on Fedor, that's a really odd argument to inject into the discussion.

I was using Fedor as a example because no matter who he beats or how he wins people will still hate on him. I don't recall pointing out the haters so I'll leave at that. Take care...

[SHO]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida



Crazy pic.

[DTX3]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

My question is what happens with Sugar now? Fight with Rua? Rematch with Griffin(if he wins)?

[Wet Bandit]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I think something we can all agree on is that Matt Serra is number one on the list of fighters best at using accidental illegal strikes. First knocking GSP loopy with a hook to the back of the head, and now blacking out Hughes for a bit with a headbutt and another hook to the back of the head. Kinda funny.

[MizzouBravesFan]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I think something we can all agree on is that Matt Serra is number one on the list of fighters best at using accidental illegal strikes. First knocking GSP loopy with a hook to the back of the head, and now blacking out Hughes for a bit with a headbutt and another hook to the back of the head. Kinda funny.

LOL that's what got me...you had the headbutt but then he rabbit punches him right after it.

Crazy.

I can't stand either really TBH but I find Serra way more annoying.

[goh]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I gave Evans enough credit to think he'd at least be the first in a long time to not look like a complete fool against Machida. He landed what? 1 leg kick and 2-5 punches? Rashad's wife was pretty upset.

Brock could probably outwrestle him if they do that some time (if he gets him down to begin with). Other than that maybe Jon Jones in about 3-5 years with his crazy style if he can keep the wins going that long. Rua,Rampage,Fedor (if Machida beats Brock),Forrest,Jardine,Hamil,Bisping if he wants to step it up,bring back Babalu while you're at it...just more for the resume that already has BJ,Tito,Franklin,Bonnar,Alves and now Evans.

One more for Hughes,Edgar? Tyson Griffin? Fitch? Kim? Paulo Thiago?

I was wondering why the Nover fight wasn't shown and thought Yves was getting booed for his last mess up then saw the pbp...

"Nover slips onto his face, trying to grab a leg. Referee Yves Lavigne steps in and stops it but Nover rolls over again. Yves backs away but then Bradley lands some more glancing blows. Nover springs right up and there is confusion while Lavigne waves his arms at 1:03 of the first. The fight is over and Nover doesn't look hurt. The crowd boos rabidly. Replays show Nover wasn't hurt. Massive gaffe by Lavigne."

I pretty much missed Krystof's fight (saw the end replay) and most of Hughes/Sera due to skipping/freezing and pixelization for 40-50 minutes. I'll be putting in a complaint with the cable company. I had to go find a stream wich was just fine though it was 15 seconds behind,oh the irony. It was mostly fixed for Machida/Evans and the undercard fight after.

[SHO]

Re: UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida

I really want to see the Nover fight. I heard Yves really screwed him.