MMA Off-Topic

[Money99]

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Woah, what's going on here:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rapist, you are Rapist.<br>You are a hypocrite who is not responsible for your actions. Justice will find you.<br>We will see.<a href="https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheNotorious MMA</a> <a href="https://t.co/317rLK5TVN">pic.twitter.com/317rLK5TVN</a></p>&mdash; khabib nurmagomedov (@TeamKhabib) <a href="https://twitter.com/TeamKhabib/status/1113488568037593088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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And then Conor
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I want to move forward, with my fans of all faiths and all backgrounds. <br>All faiths challenge us to be our best selves.<br>It is one world and one for all ❤️ <br>Now see you in the Octagon.</p>&mdash; Conor McGregor (@TheNotoriousMMA) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1113605086599614465?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So I'm guessing he's unretiring again?

[johnmangala]

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It always felt like Conor's retirement was a ploy, but I did not think it would unravel so quickly.

[WarMMA]

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Yh knew it was a good chance of being a negotiating ploy. I mean its not like its the first time he's done this. Appearently he really wants the Khabib fight again. He's so sore about that loss that he's taking shots at the mans wife, who has nothing to do with anything smh.

[Money99]

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Yh knew it was a good chance of being a negotiating ploy. I mean its not like its the first time he's done this. Appearently he really wants the Khabib fight again. He's so sore about that loss that he's taking shots at the mans wife, who has nothing to do with anything smh.

Money rules everything and that's why Dana will ensure there will be a rematch - despite the fact the first fight was one of the most one-sided beatdowns I've seen in a long while.
Conor could never best Khabib on his best day while armed with a handtruck.

At least it'll be fun to see him get ragdolled again.

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[johnmangala]

Dillashaw tests positive for EPO

<blockquote class="embedly-card"><h4><a href="https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/1115691462262390785">Brett Okamoto on Twitter</a></h4><p>Full story on TJ Dillashaw's two-year suspension on @ESPN. https://t.co/gftWxbLdYr</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="embedly-card"><h4><a href="https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/1115736603002122240">Brett Okamoto on Twitter</a></h4><p>Another note in Dillashaw's EPO case, USADA went back and re-analyzed a test submitted on Dec. 28, and that also come back positive for EPO. The reason it went undetected initially, is that a special test is required to reveal EPO, and that test is not run on every single sample.</p></blockquote>

[WarMMA]

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^ Wow...looks like Cody was right. The guy was on it all along. Lmao at his on record loss to USADA via tko though lol.

[Money99]

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I wish the reparations for those who took losses were greater.
Suspending DJ for 2 years is all well and good, but I'd like to see them go a step further.
- remove the wins they obtained while juiced.
- hand over their purse to their opponent.
- they are forced to pay for 24/7 testing (and full tests) for the rest of their competitive lives.

[p_rushing]

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They don't know when you start cheating though, just when they caught you.

They could go backwards in time and remove wins and bonuses (fine the amount of any win/performance bonuses) for the amount of time they are suspended. They may not be able to get it back though as most fighters don't have that much money saved up.


Plus too many fighters claim contaminated supplements. They get off way to easy. It's pretty easy to take approved supplements that don't have PEDs in them, they just don't work like PEDs.

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[Money99]

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They don't know when you start cheating though, just when they caught you.

They could go backwards in time and remove wins and bonuses (fine the amount of any win/performance bonuses) for the amount of time they are suspended. They may not be able to get it back though as most fighters don't have that much money saved up.


Plus too many fighters claim contaminated supplements. They get off way to easy. It's pretty easy to take approved supplements that don't have PEDs in them, they just don't work like PEDs.

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I understand that, but I do think boxing and MMA should do more to punish when there is proof.
In the future, I would love to see both boxing and MMA/UFC to force a cheater to pay for 24/7 random testing until they retire. And this includes keeping their samples on files for years afterwards when better tests become available.
There has to be a greater deterrent to what we have now.
DJ has made himself rich and famous because of PEDs. And he put his opponents lives and livelihood in jeopardy by cheating. There should be a greater punishment than "You're on the shelf for 2 years, but feel free to keep all the rewards you obtained while being an effing cheat".

[p_rushing]

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I understand that, but I do think boxing and MMA should do more to punish when there is proof.
In the future, I would love to see both boxing and MMA/UFC to force a cheater to pay for 24/7 random testing until they retire. And this includes keeping their samples on files for years afterwards when better tests become available.
There has to be a greater deterrent to what we have now.
DJ has made himself rich and famous because of PEDs. And he put his opponents lives and livelihood in jeopardy by cheating. There should be a greater punishment than "You're on the shelf for 2 years, but feel free to keep all the rewards you obtained while being an effing cheat".

I agree there should be punishment and it should go back in time for at least the amount they are suspended for. Fines could and should be done, but how do you recover money from someone if they aren't still fighting? Some may pay it, but the less popular fighters are not going to have enough money to pay.

With the lax stance they have taken, they won't do it. They keep letting people off using the contaminated supplements excuse.

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[johnmangala]

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I wonder if USADA tests old samples and they find PEDs going back to championship fights.. I'd imagine those fights would become NCs and maybe he'd even be retroactively stripped. Either way, TJ is not in a good spot but at least he hasn't outright denied it like most others have so far.

Chael Sonnen said recently on Ariel Helwani's show that you can get a TUE for EPO! (7:15-7:30)
One would think something as effective as EPO wouldn't have TUEs.

[p_rushing]

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I wonder if USADA tests old samples and they find PEDs going back to championship fights.. I'd imagine those fights would become NCs and maybe he'd even be retroactively stripped. Either way, TJ is not in a good spot but at least he hasn't outright denied it like most others have so far.

Chael Sonnen said recently on Ariel Helwani's show that you can get a TUE for EPO! (7:15-7:30)
One would think something as effective as EPO wouldn't have TUEs.

USADA claiming they didn't save old samples because of costs

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[johnmangala]

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USADA claiming they didn't save old samples because of costs

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This is correct in regards to samples going way back. But apparently they have samples going back to at least his Linekar and Assunção fights and those are before his championship fights with Cody... so maybe at least those championship bouts will be under scrutiny.

<blockquote class="embedly-card"><h4><a href="https://twitter.com/aaronbronsteter/status/1116758213360271360">Aaron Bronsteter on Twitter</a></h4><p>Novitzky informs me that USADA will be re-testing any samples of Dillashaw that they still have stored and should they test positive for EPO, it would be considered another violation. His understanding is Dillashaw was tested for EPO for both his Lineker and Assuncao bouts.</p></blockquote>

[johnmangala]

DC v Miocic 2; Lesnar retires

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DC will likely look for more TDs this time, bread and butter grind out to a decision. Miocic is more of the variable. He could come out hard looking for a finish or be more cautious and opportunistic like he was against Ngannou, etc. Either way, I predict the odds will be much closer for this. DC by DEC or Miocic by TKO are the most likely results for each imo. I think DC takes it again but have a much harder fight this time- the fight most expected from the first time. Idk about Lesnar, could be a gambit or negotiation tactic... but since they are seemingly moving ahead with DC v Miocic 2 idk.

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DC will likely look for more TDs this time, bread and butter grind out to a decision. Miocic is more of the variable. He could come out hard looking for a finish or be more cautious and opportunistic like he was against Ngannou, etc. Either way, I predict the odds will be much closer for this. DC by DEC or Miocic by TKO are the most likely results for each imo. I think DC takes it again but have a much harder fight this time- the fight most expected from the first time. Idk about Lesnar, could be a gambit or negotiation tactic... but since they are seemingly moving ahead with DC v Miocic 2 idk.

Everything with Lesnar is a negotiation tactic. I really don't think he wants to put his body through training and another MMA fight. He may still want to get paid though so if WWE doesn't offer him enough, the UFC may give him a huge deal with ESPN wanting him on a card.

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