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  • redsrule
    All Star
    • Apr 2010
    • 9396

    #646
    Re: OS MMA Random Thread

    Good. **** Bjorn Rebney. Dude was a slimy POS. I wonder if they will make their contracts more open ended now where guys like Alvarez aren't stuck in Bellator for longer than they want to be. Coker is a pushover, but he did a good job with Strikeforce (even if he overpaid guys). If that brawl between Mayhem & Shields/Nick & Nate Diaz/Melendez didn't happen on CBS and cost them that spot basically I wonder if they would have survived longer...
    Cincinnati Reds University of Kentucky Cincinnati Bengals
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    • The JareBear
      Be Good To One Another
      • Jul 2010
      • 11560

      #647
      Re: OS MMA Random Thread

      Am I the only one surprised to hear this? Was this something that we knew was coming? Didn't Bjorn start Bellator from the ground up
      "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

      OS Blog

      The Tortured Mind Of A Rockies Fan. In Arenado I Trust.

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      • Sgt_Carnage
        Banned
        • Feb 2014
        • 949

        #648
        Re: OS MMA Random Thread

        Originally posted by The JareBear
        Am I the only one surprised to hear this? Was this something that we knew was coming? Didn't Bjorn start Bellator from the ground up

        He did. Unfortunately for him Viacom is majority owner and they wanted him gone.

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        • The JareBear
          Be Good To One Another
          • Jul 2010
          • 11560

          #649
          Re: OS MMA Random Thread

          Roger that.

          I wonder how much money he ended up making from his initial investment.

          I wonder what the actual differences in opinion were between him and Viacom.
          "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

          OS Blog

          The Tortured Mind Of A Rockies Fan. In Arenado I Trust.

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          • Sgt_Carnage
            Banned
            • Feb 2014
            • 949

            #650
            Re: OS MMA Random Thread

            Originally posted by The JareBear
            Roger that.

            I wonder how much money he ended up making from his initial investment.

            I wonder what the actual differences in opinion were between him and Viacom.
            Rebney probably didn't agree with the direction Viacom was taking. At the same time,he should have seen it coming.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #651
              Re: OS MMA Random Thread

              So it appears that Viacom approached Chael Sonnen about becoming Bellator's president before Coker. He refused to sign a confidentiality agreement so the talks went nowhere.

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              • The JareBear
                Be Good To One Another
                • Jul 2010
                • 11560

                #652
                Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                So it appears that Viacom approached Chael Sonnen about becoming Bellator's president before Coker. He refused to sign a confidentiality agreement so the talks went nowhere.
                Very interesting.

                I was listening to Luke Thomas' weekly chat and he went over his perspective on the whole Rebney thing. It was pretty informative for me as I really haven't paid close to attention to Bellator other than watching their big fights when I can.

                The thing that stuck out to me most was that (at least according to Thomas) Viacom wasn't happy with the tournament setup limiting matchmaking options and they also weren't happy with the quality of the cards. Thomas pointed out that Bellator did something like 26 shows (I think that was the number) last year and that number is way too high considering their roster. He basically said that cards that are, more or less, headlined by bouts featuring guys like James Thompson or Phil Baroni aren't good enough to compete with the UFC and Viacom is only in the business to match the UFC one day.

                Anyway, I am naive when it comes to business and I just found the whole thing kind of fascinating.

                The Chael thing intrigues me as well. That would have been very different than Franklin running a company over in Japan, wouldn't it? I wonder what the relationship would have been like between Chael and Dana/UFC in the future.
                "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

                OS Blog

                The Tortured Mind Of A Rockies Fan. In Arenado I Trust.

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #653
                  Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                  Originally posted by The JareBear
                  Very interesting.

                  I was listening to Luke Thomas' weekly chat and he went over his perspective on the whole Rebney thing. It was pretty informative for me as I really haven't paid close to attention to Bellator other than watching their big fights when I can.

                  The thing that stuck out to me most was that (at least according to Thomas) Viacom wasn't happy with the tournament setup limiting matchmaking options and they also weren't happy with the quality of the cards. Thomas pointed out that Bellator did something like 26 shows (I think that was the number) last year and that number is way too high considering their roster. He basically said that cards that are, more or less, headlined by bouts featuring guys like James Thompson or Phil Baroni aren't good enough to compete with the UFC and Viacom is only in the business to match the UFC one day.

                  Anyway, I am naive when it comes to business and I just found the whole thing kind of fascinating.

                  The Chael thing intrigues me as well. That would have been very different than Franklin running a company over in Japan, wouldn't it? I wonder what the relationship would have been like between Chael and Dana/UFC in the future.
                  Much different. Rich is a VP with One but not running the promotion. Plus One primarily runs fights in countries that the UFC rarely runs cards in.

                  Chael wouldve been taking Bjorn position with the UFC's biggest competitor and with the backing of a corporation (Viacom) that Dana hates. ****, Randy Couture is banned from the UFC just because he did a reality show with Bellator. Chael wouldve disappeared from the UFC.

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                  • Gotmadskillzson
                    Live your life
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 23428

                    #654
                    Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                    Chael Sonnen to fight Andre Galvao August 9 in Metamoris 4 in a no Gi match.

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                    • The JareBear
                      Be Good To One Another
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 11560

                      #655
                      Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                      Chael Sonnen to fight Andre Galvao August 9 in Metamoris 4 in a no Gi match.

                      http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/6/20...es-metamoris-4
                      This should definitely get them some extra viewers. I wonder if he goes the Schaub route or actually competes
                      "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

                      OS Blog

                      The Tortured Mind Of A Rockies Fan. In Arenado I Trust.

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                      • Gotmadskillzson
                        Live your life
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 23428

                        #656
                        Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                        Originally posted by The JareBear
                        This should definitely get them some extra viewers. I wonder if he goes the Schaub route or actually competes
                        He will probably actually compete. Barnett and Dean Lister will also be in the fight, along with Vinny Margahles or however you spell his last name.

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                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #657
                          Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                          Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                          He will probably actually compete. Barnett and Dean Lister will also be in the fight, along with Vinny Margahles or however you spell his last name.
                          I saw Barnett was on there, but I'm wondering how. Is he not under contract with the UFC? They don't let their fighters do this stuff.

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                          • Pappy Knuckles
                            LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15966

                            #658
                            Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                            Originally posted by p_rushing
                            I saw Barnett was on there, but I'm wondering how. Is he not under contract with the UFC? They don't let their fighters do this stuff.
                            I remember Bendo doing a Jiu-Jitsu tourney while under a UFC contract. And Nick Diaz was scheduled to do one against Estima even though he no-showed. I'm assuming that they let their guys do these or maybe there are just exceptions.

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                            • redsrule
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 9396

                              #659
                              Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                              He will probably actually compete. Barnett and Dean Lister will also be in the fight, along with Vinny Margahles or however you spell his last name.
                              He will actually compete and get subbed in 35 seconds. Galvao is about 20 levels higher than Chael is BJJ wise.
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                              • p_rushing
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 14514

                                #660
                                Re: OS MMA Random Thread

                                Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
                                I remember Bendo doing a Jiu-Jitsu tourney while under a UFC contract. And Nick Diaz was scheduled to do one against Estima even though he no-showed. I'm assuming that they let their guys do these or maybe there are just exceptions.
                                maybe it is fine if they aren't getting paid and no punching/contact allowed

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