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**DTX3** · 08-09-2009, 03:24 PM

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UFC targeting Fenway Park for 2010 Boston debut

UFC President Dana White mentioned the historic and beloved Fenway Park as A possible venue for the promotion’s anticipated Boston debut in mid to late 2010.

White made the surprise announcement at the UFC 101 post-fight press conference during the early morning hours of Aug. 9.

A bill to legalize mixed martial arts in Massachusetts recently cleared its latest hurdle in the legislative process after breezing through the State Senate by a vote of 34-1.

The bill now heads to the House Ways and Means Committee for additional consideration before arriving at the desk of Governor Deval Patrick for his signature.

The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) officials stormed Massachusetts earlier this year, attempting to convince lawmakers in the “Bay State” that mixed martial arts regulation is good for them and the state economy … to the tune of $12.3 million in just one weekend.

The latest dog and pony show appeared to have done the trick during a State House hearing held back in April. If all goes according to plan, the promotion is hoping to stage a major pay-per-view (PPV) event at some point in 2010.

Boston’s TD Banknorth Garden is also under consideration to host the planned event.

http://mmamania.com/2009/08/09/green-monster-ufc-targeting-fenway-park-for-2010-boston-debut/#more-14455

**goh** · 08-14-2009, 05:47 PM

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They haven't had one outside yet in the UFC have they? Looks like Bodog does it all the time so there's been events outside,just not UFC ones?

**DTX3** · 08-14-2009, 06:04 PM

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Nope, this would be the first. I really don't think it would work though. The set up would be very odd imo.

In other news, there won't be anymore UFC video blogs which sucks because I always enjoyed them.

**Keith121212** · 08-15-2009, 12:55 AM

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No more video blogs? That sucks.

**bkfount** · 08-17-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by DTX3

Nope, this would be the first. I really don't think it would work though. The set up would be very odd imo.

Maybe for fenway yes, but boxing has done outside events forever, and MMA in japan has been held outside too. Pride Shockwave had like 90k people there.

**Wet Bandit** · 08-17-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by DTX3

In other news, there won't be anymore UFC video blogs which sucks because I always enjoyed them.

Yeah, those things were fantastic.

That type of stuff is one of the biggest reasons I like being an MMA fan right now. The sport's getting big, but it's not too big that it's totally inaccessible. It's pretty easy to run into fighters in restaurants, hotel lobbies, weigh-ins, etc. And no other sport has its commishioner-type taking a camera around and giving a glimpse into the inner-workings of everything. This sort of accessibility won't last forever, but it's fun to enjoy while it does.

**DTX3** · 08-20-2009, 02:35 PM

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NSAC approves MMA instant replay; anti-greasing ‘BJ Penn rule’

The Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) yesterday approved the inclusion of instant replay within the sport of mixed martial arts to better assist referees in the UFC and other organizations in determining the outcome of televised fights.

Passed on August 19, the NSAC specifically examined the relevance of instant replay as it pertains to fight-ending injuries or fouls, particularly those that may or may not have been ruled a technical knockout, like in the case of Anthony Johnson vs. Kevin Burns at UFC Fight Night 14.

The implementation of instant replay is going to be limited in its application (by design). The purpose is to preserve the integrity of a contest’s outcome rather than find faults with judgment calls.

From the commission:

“A referee at the conclusion of a contest or exhibition stopped immediately due to an injury to an unarmed combatant pursuant to NAC 467.718 and after making a decision, may view a replay if available in order to determine whether the injury in question was caused a legal blow or a foul.”

Also getting the nod from the NSAC is the “BJ Penn Rule,” enacted to prohibit any type of greasing agent or foreign substance applied to a fighter’s body that may give them an unfair advantage in competition.

Any such substance will now be categorized as a foul under the current guidelines.

The rule was unceremoniously named after Penn as a result of the hubbub that came out of UFC 94 last January. Penn was overwhelmed by Georges St. Pierre in their welterweight title fight but complained to the athletic commission following the bout that “Rush” had been slathered in Vaseline, effectively nullifying his guard.

While footage showed the GSP camp being a bit too generous with the grease, no action was taken because there was no precedent set for that type of infraction. The incident was also ruled to be unintentional and without malice but Penn’s consolation prize is written language that will penalize future fighters who grease with intent to cheat.

**Wet Bandit** · 08-20-2009, 04:13 PM

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God that Penn/GSP thing still annoys me. How can anyone possibly think a small amount of vaseline on the middle of GSP's back could nullify Penn's guard? On GSP's sides or his thighs, sure. But the middle of his freaking back? The only thing that could possibly help against is the rubber guard, and only if someone wants to try and slide their head out of that, but the rubber guard doesn't require a lot of friction to maintain control, and no one slides their head out of that. If GSP wanted to cheat, he really couldn't have picked a less effective way than supposedly greasing the middle of his back.

Don't get me wrong, it's good that they put some sort of rule in place against greasing. I just think it's dumb that it's been dubbed the BJ Penn rule. Unless there's a rule against whining after you lose, there shouldn't be a rule named after BJ Penn.

I do hope that they put in a rule disallowing the use of ankle tape or knee supporters as well. It seems like those would give an unfair advantage in terms of helping a person's guard by creating extra friction.

Oh, and the NSAC also passed a rule allowing five-round non-title fights for "championship-level fighters". Hopefully the other commissions get on board with that. It would have been great for a fight like Liddell/Silva to have been five rounds.

**DTX3** · 08-20-2009, 05:56 PM

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**Wet Bandit** · 08-27-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by DTX3

In other news, there won't be anymore UFC video blogs which sucks because I always enjoyed them.

Looks like the UFC might be making the switch to having fighters do the video blogs.

Edit: Oh, Dana said as much on Twitter yesterday: "I'm not doing blogs anymore we are doing a featured fighter on fight weeks. Randy couture blog this week check youtube"

They've got two up from Couture so far this week covering Tuesday and Wednesday.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Franklin do some the week before 103.

**DTX3** · 09-10-2009, 02:16 AM

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Dana dumps on Floyd Mayweather and boxing

**Pappy Knuckles** · 09-10-2009, 04:16 AM

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Love UFC and I think Dana White has been great for the organization. However, he's a damn fool if he thinks I wont be watching Mayweather and Marquez throw down. I can understand him ****ting on Floyd for some of his comments about MMA but the way he talked about Marquez seemed a tad disrespectful. Good night for fight fans. I look forward to seeing both events but I'll be watching the Mayweather fight live and watching UFC the next day or later that night.

**DTX3** · 09-10-2009, 03:21 PM

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Oh yeah, I'll be watching the Marquez fight because I gotta support my boy. But there's no way I'm shelling out that kind of money for it.

**DTX3** · 09-12-2009, 03:35 AM

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I found this pretty funny...

Bob Arum: MMA is for skinheads and homosexuals

Quoteworthy:

“I look at the UFC audience and the boxing audience as being two different audiences entirely. Our audience in boxing is ethnic, Hispanic, Filipino, Puerto Rican, Mexican and the hard core boxing fan who can’t watch, like me, UFC. The UFC are a bunch of skinhead white guys watching people in the ring who also look like skinhead white guys. 90% of the people in the audience wear tattoos. For me and people like me, it is not something they ever care to see. They watched it, it’s horrible, guys rolling around like homosexuals on the ground. I mean it’s not a sport that shows great, great talent. The guys who throw punches can’t throw a punch to save their ***, when the punches land, the guys have no chins. These guys are not like boxers.There is no way the (UFC 100) pay-per-view generated the kind of numbers they put out. I know what the numbers were — south of one million. They’re not a public company. Who’s to check?”

Long-time professional boxing promoter Bob Arum continues to embarrass himself in public, this time by calling UFC fans and fighters a bunch of “skinheads” who “roll around like homosexuals.” Perhaps he missed UFC 98, the one that featured Lyoto Machida and Rashad Evans fighting for the UFC light heavyweight belt. It’s time for this geezer to retire and direct his talents elsewhere. Like sitting on his front porch and shaking his fist at the teens who drive too fast down his block while “Cocoon” plays in the background.

First time I've been called a skinhead btw.

**allBthere** · 09-12-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles

Love UFC and I think Dana White has been great for the organization. However, he's a damn fool if he thinks I wont be watching Mayweather and Marquez throw down. I can understand him ****ting on Floyd for some of his comments about MMA but the way he talked about Marquez seemed a tad disrespectful. Good night for fight fans. I look forward to seeing both events but I'll be watching the Mayweather fight live and watching UFC the next day or later that night.

I'll be doing the opposite, because Dana is right...I want to see Paquioa vs Mayweather.

The thing I don't like is how Dana and Rogan (at least in the past) dump on boxing - This time it was better than Dana limited his dumping to the promoters of boxing and the matchmakers as well as floyd. But in the past he's dumped on the sport and so has Rogan....just take the high road and don't comment at all about another sport. I love boxing and MMA, I don't see why either sport has to get so defensive. It's really pathetic.

The quote above me about skinhead homo white guy thing is a prime example of someone being so defensive that they have lost all perspective and ability to form a coherent thought.

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