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[p_rushing]

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Lombard tested positive on the day of the fight for DMT

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Everybody popping positive.........damn shame.

[LingeringRegime]

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GSP said it was just the tip of the iceberg.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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GSP said it was just the tip of the iceberg.

GSP been complaining about it for years though and people thought he was just exaggerating. From the looks of things, he wasn't

[Pappy Knuckles]

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****, GSP probably roided too lol.

[aholbert32]

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****, GSP probably roided too lol.

Yep. Sonnen clowned Wanderlei for running away from testers and then he failed a test a month later. Anderson was quoted just this past October that anyone who failed a drug test should be banned for life.

Just because you are outspoken about press doesn't mean that you aren't taking them.


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[p_rushing]

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Hopefully this forces Dana to pay for a drug testing program. I'm sure he won't because of the cost, but a year round testing of all fighters is needed. Nevada is trying but I'm not sure if they can test all the guys. I would love if they tested all fighters under contract randomly every month. It would be hard to cycle every month if the test was random.

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[aholbert32]

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Hopefully this forces Dana to pay for a drug testing program. I'm sure he won't because of the cost, but a year round testing of all fighters is needed. Nevada is trying but I'm not sure if they can test all the guys. I would love if they tested all fighters under contract randomly every month. It would be hard to cycle every month if the test was random.

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Its not totally a cost thing though. They learned from the whole Cung Le debacle that they shouldnt be involved in drug testing if they dont have to be. They screwed up and picked the wrong type of lab who botched the test. Picking the wrong lab could lead to a lawsuit from a fighter. Le was planning to sue the UFC on his own before he joined the recent class action.

Also what you suggest isnt realistic. The UFC has fighters who reside in over 50 countries. Not all of the fighters live in countries that have VADA level drug test facilities or labs that can conduct those sorts of tests. This isnt like the NFL or MLB where the large majority of athletes reside in the US and they all have a team facility where testing can take place.

[p_rushing]

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I'm not saying the UFC should run the program, just pay for it. If fighters want to fight in the UFC, then they would do the testing. UFC pays testers to collect samples and mail to whatever approved lab is closest. Sure it cost money, but planes fly all over the world and can deliver the samples anywhere. If UFC uses a 3rd party then the lab issue is gone.

Nevada seems to be doing a good job in the USA, but I don't think random testing is done outside the USA.

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[aholbert32]

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I'm not saying the UFC should run the program, just pay for it. If fighters want to fight in the UFC, then they would do the testing. UFC pays testers to collect samples and mail to whatever approved lab is closest. Sure it cost money, but planes fly all over the world and can deliver the samples anywhere. If UFC uses a 3rd party then the lab issue is gone.

Nevada seems to be doing a good job in the USA, but I don't think random testing is done outside the USA.

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Unless you are sending money to the state and country commissions, paying for the testing equals running the program. There are over 500 fighters in the UFC. Flying testers in and out of cities all over the world on a monthly basis would be incredibly expensive. Monthly blood tests screening for 500 fighters would also be extremely expensive. Not even to mention what happens if there are chain of possession issues.

FYI, the UFC used a third party lab in the Le situation and thats part of the reason it was a cluster****.

[allBthere]

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Yep. Sonnen clowned Wanderlei for running away from testers and then he failed a test a month later. Anderson was quoted just this past October that anyone who failed a drug test should be banned for life.

Just because you are outspoken about press doesn't mean that you aren't taking them.


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Sure, but to be fair GSP hasn't been caught using so I don't think assuming he is guilty of doping is cool, nor because he is and has been outspoken against it for YEARS.

what's amazing to me also is how expensive it is. I remember being being offered it while in HS and thinking how can these meatheads afford this? You have guys in lower orgs being paid 2k a fight taking roids that cost more than 3 fights! lol

I think testing the way it is now is exposing many people, so I'm not sure what more can be done in the way of testing. I think to eradicate doping from the UFC specifically means that the punishment must be severe and permanent enough to deter anyone from using them.


For example. I am a fan of GSP, but I think the only solution would be perma banning fighters. So even if GSP gets caught or Silva or any of the big stars, you have to banish them for life. It's the only way - you can't be hard on the fringe guys and let the money-makers hang around. The fans can't be hypocritical either, you are either against it and support lifetime bans, or you aren't against doping. You can't have it both ways, either because you like a fighter or feel sorry for someone with an injury etc.

If Jon Jones gets caught with steriods he is stripped of the title and now on the phone with Bellator lol ,... it's seriously the only way to get rid of it within an organization.

You have the NFL with players violating the 'league's substance abuse policy' and playing a few weeks later. Because they are not serious about getting rid of PED's. IF you're serious about it, you need to deal with it with conviction and absolute authority.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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DC fighting Ryan Bader in June. I would have thought DC would have gotten Gustaffsson.

[nate1986]

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DC fighting Ryan Bader in June. I would have thought DC would have gotten Gustaffsson.

i think its a solid match up, also yoel vs souza is back on as co main behind rockhold vs machida on the next fox show

in regards to the PED issue i think the athletic commissions need to get a better handle on getting pre fight results out before fights because that gives off a corruption vibe amongst the commissions because that diaz/silva fight should have never been allowed to happen, and its not to say if UFC handled the drug testing that things like this would happen for the sake of protecting business, if MMA and athletic commissions want to really rid themselves of this problem anytime they book a show each fighter should have to take at least three pre fight screens for PEDs, drugs and whatever else is considered a banned substance, first one happens within 3 weeks after a fight is booked, second time a month before and the third time a week before and of course a post fight test, I wouldn't be overly surprised if half the roster is on stuff but most are smart enough to cycle it out of their system

[DJ]

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DC fighting Ryan Bader in June. I would have thought DC would have gotten Gustaffsson.

Gus likely needs some time to recover from that Rumble beating.

DC-Bader is interesting. I think Bader is the better fighter of the two and certainly has the KO power. If he can neutralize DC's wrestling, I think Bader wins.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Gus likely needs some time to recover from that Rumble beating.

DC-Bader is interesting. I think Bader is the better fighter of the two and certainly has the KO power. If he can neutralize DC's wrestling, I think Bader wins.

Bader better than DC? I don't see that at all. Bader has strung together a handful of wins, but I feel like Cormier will handle him.