Kimbo Slice a TUF 10 contestant

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KIMBO IS GOING TO TAKE OVER UFC!!!!!..... JUST WATCH

[Luck911]

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There is a MASSIVE difference between Kimbo and Brock. Brock is a world class wrestler while Kimbo just beat people on the street.

Anyone with even an average ground game is going to destroy him easy.

Elite Xc push a fighter with no real exp because he will bring good rating currently his record 3-1

UFC push a fighter with no real exp because he will bring good rating currently his record 3-1

It is not about skill level because yes i know Brock lesnar is way prospect.It is about company pushing fighter to the fight fore front and making their public face with out the fighter having the nessary skills to back it up.

Their is not single Brock lesnar fan who feels comfortable with him ground on agianst likes Mir,Nogeria,etc.He is not a good striker either.He is a strenght freak of nature that can hold most fighter on the ground with no real skills to do anything after other hit them with awkward looking punches.I love brock's potential but nobody in their right mind can think he is anywhere close to a complete product.

[mgoblue]

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Elite Xc push a fighter with no real exp because he will bring good rating currently his record 3-1

UFC push a fighter with no real exp because he will bring good rating currently his record 3-1

It is not about skill level because yes i know Brock lesnar is way prospect.It is about company pushing fighter to the fight fore front and making their public face with out the fighter having the nessary skills to back it up.

Their is not single Brock lesnar fan who feels comfortable with him ground on agianst likes Mir,Nogeria,etc.He is not a good striker either.He is a strenght freak of nature that can hold most fighter on the ground with no real skills to do anything after other hit them with awkward looking punches.I love brock's potential but nobody in their right mind can think he is anywhere close to a complete product.

I think there's much bigger of a difference in early pushing a wrestling champion who is a physically talented freak vs. some dude who fought in backyards and was put on Youtube.

I agree Brock was pushed too soon, but Kimbo is just all hype, and Brock can at least back it up...

I look forward to seeing Kimbo on TUF though, I think he's got the right mindset and EliteXC just screwed him over.

[Dr.J]

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LOL, both guys are all hype.People can say lesnar is better because of his amatuer background which we know doesn't mean he is a great fighter and on the other hand people can say kimbo is better because he has won some street fights but that doesn't make him a mma fighter, in the end both guys haven't done much or proved anything.Mir made lesnar tap like a bitch and kimbo got knocked the hell out by some can both guys are on the same level.

[MC Fatigue]

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LOL, both guys are all hype.People can say lesnar is better because of his amatuer background which we know doesn't mean he is a great fighter and on the other hand people can say kimbo is better because he has won some street fights but that doesn't make him a mma fighter, in the end both guys haven't done much or proved anything.Mir made lesnar tap like a bitch and kimbo got knocked the hell out by some can both guys are on the same level.

And up to the point of Mir making him tap, Mir was being dominated by a bigger, faster, stronger fighter.

You may not like Brock - but he's a very, very good fighter. He made a rookie mistake against Mir, but with 2 more fights under his belt, on top of months and months of training, he's not going to make a mistake like that again.

[carolina_boi]

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Hmmmm....interesting. I know Dana White has said the only way Kimbo will fight in the UFC is if he goes through the TUF process.

IMO, I think he'll get pounded.

yeah maybe, like Alli said "It aint about who can hit the hardest, its about who can get hit the hardest and keep gettn back up !" aha i hope he does well, he's a damn good fighter when it comes down to thrown the hands !

[Dr.J]

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And up to the point of Mir making him tap, Mir was being dominated by a bigger, faster, stronger fighter.

You may not like Brock - but he's a very, very good fighter. He made a rookie mistake against Mir, but with 2 more fights under his belt, on top of months and months of training, he's not going to make a mistake like that again.

I dislike the "hype" the only reason brock is were he is today is because of his name and not his skills he hasn't fought anybody great and people are acting like he is the greatest fighter who ever stepped in a ring or octagon.Sure mir was dominated but its how you finish the fight and he made lesnar tap.I personally feel people are to hard on kimbo(i'm not a kimbo fan) and they give lesnar a free pass for some reason in the end lesnar is just hype until he actually fights someone "good" and not old.

[The Chef]

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I dislike the "hype" the only reason brock is were he is today is because of his name and not his skills he hasn't fought anybody great and people are acting like he is the greatest fighter who ever stepped in a ring or octagon.Sure mir was dominated but its how you finish the fight and he made lesnar tap.I personally feel people are to hard on kimbo(i'm not a kimbo fan) and they give lesnar a free pass for some reason in the end lesnar is just hype until he actually fights someone "good" and not old.

Im not a Lesnar or Kimbo fan but Lesnar got to where he is today because of his college wrestling background and has actually won some MMA fights so comparing him to Kimbo and trying to say they are similar is completely ridiculous. Sure, Couture isnt a spring chicken but atleast Lesnar beat someone, anyone, who wasnt a total can where as Kimbo got knocked out by a damn jab thrown by a can, there is no similarities between the two.

[Dr.J]

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Im not a Lesnar or Kimbo fan but Lesnar got to where he is today because of his college wrestling background and has actually won some MMA fights so comparing him to Kimbo and trying to say they are similar is completely ridiculous. Sure, Couture isnt a spring chicken but atleast Lesnar beat someone, anyone, who wasnt a total can where as Kimbo got knocked out by a damn jab thrown by a can, there is no similarities between the two.

Well he probably got in the wwe because of his wrestling background but there is no way in hell you can honestly say he got in the ufc because of his college wrestling background bottomline is that he got in the ufc because of his name and the wwe.I'm sure dana said wow brock is sure dominated that korean guy with his awesome wrestle skills we have to sign him, he got in the ufc because of his name.


"who wasnt a total can where as Kimbo got knocked out by a damn jab thrown by a can, there is no similarities"

LOL, a can is a can while kimbo did get knockout in the first round lesnar tapped out in 90 seconds in the first round.Both guys are unproven fighters who are recieving alot of hype and people are giving lesnar a free pass because of his name.I personally think he and kimbo both suck and while kimbo was exposed brock will be expose when he actually fights someone who isn't "total can" or old.

[The Chef]

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LOL, a can is a can while kimbo did get knockout in the first round lesnar tapped out in 90 seconds in the first round.Both guys are unproven fighters who are recieving alot of hype and people are giving lesnar a free pass because of his name.I personally think he and kimbo both suck and while kimbo was exposed brock will be expose when he actually fights someone who isn't "total can" or old.

You clearly dont like Lesnar if you are going to try and compare a fight where he was dominating a legit, former HW champion in Frank Mir but made a rookie mistake and left himself open to Kimbo getting knocked out by a damn jab from a complete and total can, if thats your story then we have no reason to talk anymore because nothing said will open your eyes to reality. Again, Im not a Lesnar fan and hope Mir smashes him but there is no legit way to compare Lesnar to Slice because they are completely different scenerios.

EDIT- So your saying Couture is on the same level as Petruzelli? I dont care how old Randy is, he is light years better then Seth will ever be. How is Lesnar being given the same pass that Kimbo was getting? He has actually beaten some legit MMA guys, ie. Couture, Herring, where as Kimbo couldnt stand and bang with Seth, give me a break already. Does Lesnar have work to do? Of course he does and everyone knows that, but he is light years better then Kimbo at this point and I dont see how anyone with 2 working eyes can compare the two on any level.

[LP]

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You clearly dont like Lesnar if you are going to try and compare a fight where he was dominating a legit, former HW champion in Frank Mir but made a rookie mistake and left himself open to Kimbo getting knocked out by a damn jab from a complete and total can, if thats your story then we have no reason to talk anymore because nothing said will open your eyes to reality. Again, Im not a Lesnar fan and hope Mir smashes him but there is no legit way to compare Lesnar to Slice because they are completely different scenerios.

EDIT- So your saying Couture is on the same level as Petruzelli? I dont care how old Randy is, he is light years better then Seth will ever be. How is Lesnar being given the same pass that Kimbo was getting? He has actually beaten some legit MMA guys, ie. Couture, Herring, where as Kimbo couldnt stand and bang with Seth, give me a break already. Does Lesnar have work to do? Of course he does and everyone knows that, but he is light years better then Kimbo at this point and I dont see how anyone with 2 working eyes can compare the two on any level.

Agreed. Any of Brock's opponents would have destroyed Kimbo, while Lesnar would probably be undefeated if he fought Kimbo's competition. Obviously someone is blinded by pure hatred of a fighter.

[Luck911]

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It is not about the level of fighters,Brock lesnar is better prospect and is better fighter but him and kimbo where push by a fight league before any where close to complete product.It is same situation hype unfinished and unready fighters,Lesnar is more talent version of what happening kimbo.

Fortunately for Brock he is athletically freak and which helps by pass some stuff but fundamentally he is an awful to average fighter.Only because he was huge star in wwe the reason he got a shot that did and only because kimbo would bring rating that he got to bypass a normal tryout and up on tuf.If Brock lesnar was not who he was he would still be looking for shot in the Ufc like bobby lashley.Fame is a playing huge role for lesnar like kimbo that was point,two companies where using the fame of person to promote them and really their skills

[Luck911]

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Kimbo has his work cut out for him

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=AnP7V4CvJLH1yfQGVXM79jM9Eo14?slug=mmajunkie-NFL_vets_join_TUF10&prov=mmajunkie&type=lgns

or

http://www.fightbomb.com/Fight-Schedule/the-ultimate-fighter-10.html?43f9ac80?111d5a08

[KOL]

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Comparing Kimbo Slice to Brock Lesnar is like comparing the New England Patriots to the Detroit Lions.
Lesnar was 33-0 in his senior year at South Dakota high school, from there he came second, in 2000 he became NCAA National Champion.
Brock's record in college stood at 106-5, and Shelton Benjamin was his assistant coach - (he also roomed with him)
So Lesnar has an excellent wrestling background which IMO is the most important style to grasp before entering MMA, granted his WWE career was short and yes he has openly admitted to using steroids, nevertheless he is a beast.
Slice on the other hand has no wrestling background, he used to be a bouncer for a strip club, had tryouts for the Miami Dolphins and reportedly has completed a 10 year stretch in prison.
His one and only loss came against Seth Petruzelli, where Slice was scheduled to fight Ken Shamrock - it took Petruzelli 14 seconds to knock out the street fighter.