UFC 100

[Scoop_Brady]

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Jon Fitch would beg to differ.



And I'll be able to post a similar one of Alves's face once someone puts it online.

St. Pierre's inability to finish Alves and Fitch says more about Alves and Fitch than it does about GSP. St. Pierre seriously beat both of those guys up. I'm not sure how you can downplay that.

Seriously, GSP has finished nearly 2/3 of his fights, including finishes over Penn, Hughes twice, Serra, Sherk, and Trigg. There's four champions in that list with a combined total of 15 wins in title fights.

Were you down on Fedor because he was unable to finish Big Nog in a combined 40 minutes or Crocop in 20 minutes?

No offense, but it's just a silly argument. "He completely dominated these guys, totally outclassed them, beat them to a bloody pulp, but because he hasn't finished a couple guys recently, meh."

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Lesnar/Herring fight. Were you critical of Lesnar's inability to finish the fight? I know a lot of people were so I don't see why it's a silly thought to have that GSP should have finished Alves and Fitch. GSP rocked Fitch like 5 times in their fight yet couldn't finish it. IMO to be considered the best p4p fighter you should finish title defenses. Like I said, I knew it wouldn't be a popular opinion but you can show me a battered and beaten picture of Alves too if you'd like it won't change my mind. And for the record I think GSP is one of the best fighters in the world, I just have a hard time calling him the best p4p at this time.

[bgeno]

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I remember watching the pre-fight show for the UFC 100 PPV and hearing Brock talk about how Mir has a horseshoe up his ***. So it's not something he just thought of on the spot after the fight. It had something to do with pre-fight talks.

Ya, I know. I just don't know if there's any significance to the horseshoe or if that's just what came to mind or if it has to do with being on the "struggling dairy farm" in Minnesota.

[Wet Bandit]

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Ya, I know. I just don't know if there's any significance to the horseshoe or if that's just what came to mind or if it has to do with being on the "struggling dairy farm" in Minnesota.

I'm guessing because Brock thought Mir got lucky in the first fight, hence the horseshoe.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

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With the UFC 100 prelims already underway and the main card just minutes from starting, the salaries for the main event fighters have been released as well as the bonus amounts for tonight's show, according to a report by Yahoo.com's Kevin Iole via his official Twitter account.

UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar will take home a flat $400,000 paycheck for his efforts at UFC 100, making him the highest paid fighter on the card before anything even happens.

His opponent, interim champion Frank Mir, will earn $45,000 for his show money, and another $45,000 if he defeats Lesnar for the second time in his career.

UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre has a chance to match Lesnar's payout with a win, as he will earn $200,000 for the fight, and an extra $200,000 if he gets the title defense win.

Thiago Alves, taking his first shot at a UFC championship, will take home $60,000 as his show money and another $60,000 if he can unseat St. Pierre as the welterweight champion.

"Ultimate Fighter" season 9 coach Dan Henderson will make $100,000 to show and $150,000 if he wins, while his opponent and fellow coach, Michael Bisping, will earn $150,000 to show and $100,000 for a win.

Iole also announced on his Twitter page that UFC president Dana White confirmed that the bonuses for "Fight of the Night," "Knockout of the Night," and "Submission of the Night" will be $100,000 apiece, which is the biggest award the promotion has ever offered for a single bonus at an event.

Stay tuned to MMAWeekly.com after UFC 100 closes for the fighters that will earn the $100,000 bonuses.

Mir got nothing compared to what brock got... surprise Hendo and Bisping made more then Mir.

[bgeno]

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Wow... I'm amazed sometimes by how little some of these guys make.

[Wet Bandit]

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I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Lesnar/Herring fight. Were you critical of Lesnar's inability to finish the fight? I know a lot of people were so I don't see why it's a silly thought to have that GSP should have finished Alves and Fitch. GSP rocked Fitch like 5 times in their fight yet couldn't finish it. IMO to be considered the best p4p fighter you should finish title defenses. Like I said, I knew it wouldn't be a popular opinion but you can show me a battered and beaten picture of Alves too if you'd like it won't change my mind. And for the record I think GSP is one of the best fighters in the world, I just have a hard time calling him the best p4p at this time.

I thought Brock was too conservative against Herring. But I also recognize it's tough to finish a tough guy who's determined to turtle.

I don't GSP has been too conservative lately, though. He rocked Fitch repeatedly in their fight, but Fitch hung on. Against Alves, GSP rocked him once and nearly finished him, and another time he finished a round with total back control looking for a rear naked choke.

He's been looking to finish guys. He's been striking, exchanging, he's been constantly passing guard and striking on the ground, and he's been going for submissions. And he's been incredibly effective. But a couple guys managed to weather some serious storms, so GSP had to settle for merely beating them up.

Look, GSP is currently fighting in the most stacked division in any organization right now. It'd be nice for him if he had some guys like Tsuyoshi Kohsaka or Kevin Randleman or Zulizinho or Yuji Nagata to rack up easy finishes on. But he doesn't. So this idea that he has to be finishing everyone he fights is just nuts.

Don't get me wrong, you don't have to find GSP entertaining. It's totally fine if you don't. But that's on you, not GSP.

[Wet Bandit]

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Mir got nothing compared to what brock got... surprise Hendo and Bisping made more then Mir.

That doesn't even come close to telling the whole story. Main event guys take him the vast majority of their money from a percentage of the PPV revenue, which doesn't have to be released to the NSAC.

Furthermore, any bonuses the UFC pays out doesn't have to be reported either.

And none of that factors in sponsorships, either.

It's simply impossible to tell how much a guy actually gets paid based on what is reported to the NSAC.

Every card this cycle repeats itself.

[The Chef]

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I'm guessing because Brock thought Mir got lucky in the first fight, hence the horseshoe.

Thats exactly what it was, he said as much multiple times in interviews. Brock thought he gave the first fight to Mir and felt Mir was lucky to win thanks to Mazzagatti standing them back up, hence the lucky horseshoe comment.

[Wet Bandit]

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How did Jonny Bones Jones not get submission of the night? His d'arce choke-like thing was a lot more impressive than Lawlor's run-of-the-mill guillotine. That cost Jonny Bones Jones $100k.

[goh]

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Belcher had that one rocket punch but it was clear that he never hurt Akiyama.

Yup he was limping and couldn't see out of one eye because he wasn't hurt. (While it's entirely possible the eye thing was a poke he was still hurt.)

I hope alves fights rumble johnson next! ...if johson can beat alves, then maybe he should fight gsp at WW, otherwise there is no one that stands a chance and he should think about moving up in weight - he will eventually as he ages, so it's just a matter of time.

Assuming he's not in jail.

Hearing Rogan refer to someone as a "douchebag" on live PPV last night only further demonstrates how far they have to go to reach that professional level it needs to be at to be fully considered a premier sport.

That didn't happen at all. He was just saying Henderson said it about Bisping on the show.

[aholbert32]

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I loved Hendo's KO of that *** Bisping. It was probably my favorite part of the night...but Henderson's cheap shot after the KO was BS and worse than anything Lesnar did. It's funny no one talks about that.

It wasnt a cheap shot. You fight until the ref stops it. The ref failed to step in after Bisping was hit the first time. Hendu knew he didnt have to hit him again but you fight until the ref stops it.

[OSUFan_88]

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How did Jonny Bones Jones not get submission of the night? His d'arce choke-like thing was a lot more impressive than Lawlor's run-of-the-mill guillotine. That cost Jonny Bones Jones $100k.

Can I get a link to the fight?

[mgoblue]

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It wasnt a cheap shot. You fight until the ref stops it. The ref failed to step in after Bisping was hit the first time. Hendu knew he didnt have to hit him again but you fight until the ref stops it.

IMO Hendo had to hit him. The minute you hesitate and think "should I hit" is when Bisping wakes up and recovers....then you end up losing the match because you didn't capitalize.

Side note, I think it's a joke to judge MMA as a whole based on Brock being an idiot. Look at the NBA, Shaq's rapping ish like "Kobe how does my *** taste". You telling me that football players are all hugs and "How about we go have some tea after this down, ol' pal?" on the field? He was wrong, but I don't quite get all the outrage putting down the sport because of one guy being an idiot. Whenever an athlete in another sport acts a fool the media just puts it on him, but when it's MMA it's the entire sport that's the problem?

[feeq14]

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Yup he was limping and couldn't see out of one eye because he wasn't hurt. (While it's entirely possible the eye thing was a poke he was still hurt.)

Getting hurt from leg kicks isnt the same as being rocked and having to recover. Belcher caught several shots that clearly stumbled him briefly, but Akiyama even after taking that rocked punch full on waved to the crowd afterward. The swollen eye was from the eye poke. It wasnt an overwhelming victory, but Akiyama was more aggressive, had more ring control and did more damage in my mind. Those are the scoring criteria

[Wet Bandit]

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Can I get a link to the fight?

http://video.ufc.com/