I honestly dont think they ever planned on signing with the UFC. Every time it seems the UFC would get past an obstacle they would ask for something even more ridiculous. I think they are just using the UFC for as much free publicity as they can get.
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Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.
I honestly dont think they ever planned on signing with the UFC. Every time it seems the UFC would get past an obstacle they would ask for something even more ridiculous. I think they are just using the UFC for as much free publicity as they can get. -
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what's so interesting about Fedor vs Brock? Brock is 4-1 , has zero Submissions,sucky Standup,untested chin and all he has in his arsenal is his wrestling and his Ogre size. Fedor will Zulu'd or Sylvia'd Brock with no Prob and if it goes to the Ground he'll get submitted, Fedor's skills is lightyears away form Brock, Id rather see Fedor fight Barnett,Overeem and Bigfoot in Japan that Fedor will have some prob with because these guys are proven,experienced and well rounded fightersComment
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M-1 wants to co promote because it is what good for the sport like all these other MMA Orgs are doing.. In Japan, you got Major Orgs like Pride before, DREAM,Sengoku co promoting with Orgs like Shooto,ZST and Pancrase..UFC is firm on their being an exclusive Org thus if you have guys principled guys like Fedor,Hansen,Aoki,Kawajiri,Gomi and Mousasi most likely you will not get Big fights that hardcore fans wants. UFC must open its doors if they want the Big fights to happen like other Orgs are doing if not they should just build up Tito insteadComment
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Mir "got it to the ground" and that didn't work out so well for him despite being a monster from his back. Fedor's never gone against someone that strong and quick with the level of punching power Brock has. I'm not a Brock dickrider, but dude is legit, the 4-1 isn't as much of a factor as you make it out to be.
Brock /= Sylvia/Zulu, simply put... And remember that the last fighter Fedor faced was getting the better of him until he caught that punch... he's not invincible. Brock vs. Fedor is the only fight that makes sense in the larger sense, and I do think it would be a good fight. I'd pick Fedor BTW, but I don't let that cloud my judgment about Brock.Last edited by Stumbleweed; 08-01-2009, 12:36 PM.Send your Midnight Release weirdo pics/videos to my new website: http://www.peopleofmidnightreleases.com!Comment
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Mir "got it to the ground" and that didn't work out so well for him despite being a monster from his back. Fedor's never gone against someone that strong and quick with the level of punching power Brock has. I'm not a Brock dickrider, but dude is legit, the 4-1 isn't as much of a factor as you make it out to be.
Brock /= Sylvia/Zulu, simply put...Last edited by uedamasa; 08-01-2009, 12:41 PM.Comment
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Which was totally and completely irrelevant to the point I was responding to. You said M-1 was all about going global (which itself is a joke) and "American orgs" were just about PPV money. So I made the obvious point that the premiere American organization has held shows in a number of other countries.
Neither you nor I said anything about Dana. But that's how you work, you cherry-pick what you can try to argue and ignore what doesn't suit you (like the ridiculous number of countries the UFC is shown live in), because you're a hack.Comment
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M-1 wants to co promote because it is what good for the sport like all these other MMA Orgs are doing.. In Japan, you got Major Orgs like Pride before, DREAM,Sengoku co promoting with Orgs like Shooto,ZST and Pancrase..UFC is firm on their being an exclusive Org thus if you have guys principled guys like Fedor,Hansen,Aoki,Kawajiri,Gomi and Mousasi most likely you will not get Big fights that hardcore fans wants. UFC must open its doors if they want the Big fights to happen like other Orgs are doing if not they should just build up Tito instead
The UFC sent Liddell to Pride, and they were supposed to get some Pride fighters sent to the UFC. At one point Pride said they'd send Sakuraba. At another point Wanderlei was inside the octagon when Dana announced a superfight between him and Chuck in the UFC. But both times Pride pulled out and didn't fulfill their end.
So you'll have to understand if the UFC is a little hesitant to co-promote, especially with a no-name promotion that is demanding half of the UFC's profits for a number of cards.Comment
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Which was totally and completely irrelevant to the point I was responding to. You said M-1 was all about going global (which itself is a joke) and "American orgs" were just about PPV money. So I made the obvious point that the premiere American organization has held shows in a number of other countries.
Neither you nor I said anything about Dana. But that's how you work, you cherry-pick what you can try to argue and ignore what doesn't suit you (like the ridiculous number of countries the UFC is shown live in), because you're a hack.
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lol.
Pretty ballsy trying to defend your propaganda by referencing propaganda. You don't see many people go that route too often.Comment
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The UFC did try and co-promote. They sent Chuck freaking Liddell to Pride! Are you being willfully ignorant, or do you really just have no idea what you're talking about?
The UFC sent Liddell to Pride, and they were supposed to get some Pride fighters sent to the UFC. At one point Pride said they'd send Sakuraba. At another point Wanderlei was inside the octagon when Dana announced a superfight between him and Chuck in the UFC. But both times Pride pulled out and didn't fulfill their end.
So you'll have to understand if the UFC is a little hesitant to co-promote, especially with a no-name promotion that is demanding half of the UFC's profits for a number of cards.
They're throwing tons of cash at Fedor and letting him do Sambo. Now it's Fedor's time to step up, it's his fault if he's requiring all this M-1 crap. Dana's made concessions, now Fedor has to, otherwise he's just dodging the UFC.Nintendo Switch Friend Code: SW-7009-7102-8818Comment
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Re: Vadim: "We want to develop MMA. The UFC won’t be able to control the whole world.
The UFC did try and co-promote. They sent Chuck freaking Liddell to Pride! Are you being willfully ignorant, or do you really just have no idea what you're talking about?
The UFC sent Liddell to Pride, and they were supposed to get some Pride fighters sent to the UFC. At one point Pride said they'd send Sakuraba. At another point Wanderlei was inside the octagon when Dana announced a superfight between him and Chuck in the UFC. But both times Pride pulled out and didn't fulfill their end.
So you'll have to understand if the UFC is a little hesitant to co-promote, especially with a no-name promotion that is demanding half of the UFC's profits for a number of cards.Comment
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You call it ballsy. Most would call it stupid I'd think. That didn't help his garbage argument at all I felt.Comment
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The UFC would be so stupid to give M-1 any money...They're a joke, just trying to piggyback on the UFC's success. They don't know jack about running a promotion, look at their history. Yeah, they've been around 10 years but have been promoting crap the entire time.
They're throwing tons of cash at Fedor and letting him do Sambo. Now it's Fedor's time to step up, it's his fault if he's requiring all this M-1 crap. Dana's made concessions, now Fedor has to, otherwise he's just dodging the UFC.Comment
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that's was because PRIDE was having a bad time at that time with the Fuji TV deal and with the yakuza issue and besides Wand was supposed to fight Chuck but was KO'd by crocop and hendo so that hyped fight was canceled..If co promoting is such a bad thing for the sport I think all Orgs would be an exclusive Org by now but its not, its only the UFC who's closing its doors and not making Big named fighters from all over the world fight each other..UFC should learn from promotions like strikeforce,dream and sengokuXBL: DTX3
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