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  • Wet Bandit
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1746

    #31
    Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

    I think people can get too caught up in what I call the Olympic aspect of it. What I mean is some people look at it like the only people that should be getting title shots are guys that have climbed their way all the way up the ladder, beating every other contender along the way, removing all doubt that they're the number one contender. It's like they want an Olympic-style tournament to decide who gets title shots.

    And there's nothing really wrong with that, at least in the 'purity of the sport' sense.

    But the UFC is a business, and GSP's gotta fight somebody when he's ready. And if you go through the list of possible contenders, Dan Hardy finds himself surprisingly high up. GSP has recently beat Fitch, Alves, Koscheck, and Hughes, so they're out. Daley, Kampmann, Condit, and Paulo Thiago all have recent losses, so they're out. That really just leaves Swick and Hardy.

    Since no one is beating down the door for either of those guys to get a title shot, they're gonna fight each other to determine who gets it, and the hope is a better challengers will emerge by the time June rolls around for GSP's next fight.

    If Hardy wins, he's clearly the best choice in the top 15 UFC WWs or so right now. He'll be 4-0 in the UFC (against good, but not great, competition), and he'd be 12-1 in his last 13 with his only loss coming by DQ. Like I said, someone's gotta fight GSP.

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    • Pappy Knuckles
      LORDTHUNDERBIRD
      • Sep 2004
      • 15966

      #32
      Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

      Terry Etim needs tio be on the main card.

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      • hogfan
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 1281

        #33
        Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

        Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
        Terry Etim needs tio be on the main card.
        Agreed. That kid is exciting to watch.

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        • DTX3
          Hall Of Fame
          • Jun 2003
          • 13022

          #34
          Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Here is the complete card:

          MAIN CARD:
          * Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera
          * Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang
          * Dan Hardy vs. Mike Swick
          * Matt Brown vs. James Wilks
          * Ross Pearson vs. Aaron Riley

          PRELIMINARY CARD :
          * Terry Etim vs. Shannon Gugerty
          * John Hathaway vs. Paul Taylor
          * Nick Osipczak vs. Matthew Riddle
          * Alexander Gustafsson vs. Jared Hamman
          * Roli Delgado vs. Andre Winner
          Updated the first post.
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          • LingeringRegime
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 17089

            #35
            Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

            I hope Swick beats Hardy's face in.

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            • Bona Fide
              Rookie
              • Jun 2009
              • 203

              #36
              Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

              Pretty awesome card for being free on Spike

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #37
                Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

                It's a so so card to me. I certainly wouldn't pay more than $10 [if that] to even watch it on t.v.

                The Randy/Vera bout I could honestly do without. Only reason I'll stick around to watch is because Vera is Filipino.

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                • Mo
                  SSN
                  • May 2003
                  • 11425

                  #38
                  Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

                  So I checked the UFC fantasy site, and while making my picks for 104, I saw 105 was listed as a ESPN fight night.

                  So is the fight on Spike or ESPN?

                  Or is the ESPN in reference to ESPN UK?
                  Don't you EVER read my blog? It's gotten a lot better.

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #39
                    Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

                    Originally posted by miget33
                    So I checked the UFC fantasy site, and while making my picks for 104, I saw 105 was listed as a ESPN fight night.

                    So is the fight on Spike or ESPN?

                    Or is the ESPN in reference to ESPN UK?
                    Its on Spike and ESPNUK

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                    • allBthere
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 5847

                      #40
                      Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

                      I'm VERY excited for Swick vs Hardy. That's a hell of a matchup imo and could easily be fight of the night and potentially fight of the year.

                      anyone post the date of this yet?
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                      • miami01
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 170

                        #41
                        Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

                        I'm really looking foward to this card. It will be intresting to see how the TUF 9 guys do and I think Couture/Vera, Bisping/Kang, and Swick/Hardy will all be great fights.
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                        • DueceDiggla
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 4915

                          #42
                          Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

                          What are your picks for these fights? This is where I'm at right now.


                          Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera - I honestly think age has caught up with Randy and Vera's striking will be too much for him. Randy always has the takedowns to fall back on, but I think Vera can hold his own off of his back. Even though Vera rarely finishes fights nowadays, I think he catches Randy at some point for the TKO.

                          * Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang - Kang is a better fighter, but I have a feeling this may be a snoozer with Bisping getting the hometown treatment decision.


                          * Dan Hardy vs. Mike Swick - Swick by TKO
                          * Matt Brown vs. James Wilks - Tough one to call. Wilks is decent and he may be able to beat Brown, but I'll take Brown by decision.


                          * Ross Pearson vs. Aaron Riley - Riley by sub

                          PRELIMINARY CARD :
                          * Terry Etim vs. Shannon Gugerty - Etim
                          * John Hathaway vs. Paul Taylor - Taylor
                          * Nick Osipczak vs. Matthew Riddle - Riddle
                          Alexander Gustafsson vs. Jared Hamman - no idea
                          * Roli Delgado vs. Andre Winner - Winner

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                          • Wet Bandit
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 1746

                            #43
                            Re: UFC 105 live on Spike

                            I'd be shocked if Couture wins this. He just got dropped repeatedly by the most pillow-handed heavyweight in the history of the sport. He's got very little chance against any striker that has enough wrestling to keep the fight standing, which Vera does.

                            I also think Swick is a comfortable favorite over Hardy, but Hardy's got a good puncher's chance.

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                            • goh
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 20755

                              #44
                              Re: UFC 105- Couture v. Vera on Spike

                              Looks like I'll be watching this one in SD. It's not on Sportsnet and we only get regular Spike here. Hmm Sportsnet just said it'd be on but it's not listed in the guide.

                              * Randy Couture vs. Brandon Vera
                              I'll go with the upset here with Vera by TKO in the 3rd.

                              * Michael Bisping vs. Denis Kang
                              Bisping by unanimous decision perhaps with a little home country swing.

                              * Dan Hardy vs. Mike Swick
                              I'll say Hardy by second round KO.

                              * Matt Brown vs. James Wilks
                              I like what I saw from Wilks on TUF so he's my pick. Second round RNC.

                              * Ross Pearson vs. Aaron Riley
                              Same deal as Wilks,liked Ross on TUF so I'll go with him here. Either way I think this one is ending in a first round KO.
                              Last edited by goh; 11-12-2009, 06:03 PM.

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                              • DJ
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 17756

                                #45
                                Re: UFC 105- Couture v. Vera on Spike

                                I still can't pick against Randy; every time I do, he pulls off a W. So, I'll go against my better judgement and take Randy by UD.

                                I hope Kang destroys Bisping and I'd like to see Hardy pull out a W against Swick.
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