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  • allBthere
    All Star
    • Jan 2008
    • 5847

    #46
    Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

    Originally posted by The Chef
    I wouldnt base it on that, anyone who is having serious charges levied against them is told by their attorneys to remain silent until the proper venue, and releasing a statement isnt the proper venue.

    Having said that, I wouldnt be shocked if he did it, the one thing I cant wrap my head around though is his admission right before the fight. If the guy is trying to beat the system then why tell them? If he was taking something then hes required to say something so only time will tell as to how this all shakes out but to try and beat the system only to come clean right before the fight makes no sense at all.
    I haven't read up on it...but if he admitted something maybe it was something like cough medicine. There are things like that which will make you fail the test because they are 'banned'.

    now...I'm not saying that's what's happened and I haven't read up on this, so he could have been using horse steroids like meat-loaf with titties in fight club.

    BUT it could have been something trivial as well like taking robitussin or sudafed.
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    • Beantown
      #DoYourJob
      • Feb 2005
      • 31523

      #47
      Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

      Originally posted by allBthere
      I haven't read up on it...but if he admitted something maybe it was something like cough medicine. There are things like that which will make you fail the test because they are 'banned'.

      now...I'm not saying that's what's happened and I haven't read up on this, so he could have been using horse steroids like meat-loaf with titties in fight club.

      BUT it could have been something trivial as well like taking robitussin or sudafed.
      I truly believe if that was the case, he and is PR rep would have made a statement saying that by now. The longer they wait, in my opinion, the more guilty he appears.

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      • The Chef
        Moderator
        • Sep 2003
        • 13684

        #48
        Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

        Originally posted by Beantown
        I truly believe if that was the case, he and is PR rep would have made a statement saying that by now. The longer they wait, in my opinion, the more guilty he appears.
        See I disagree. I view this the same as anyone else facing trial, or in this case Sonnen trying to fight the suspension and test results, they are always told to keep their mouths shut so they dont say something stupid that could be taken as an admission of guilt. I still have major questions as I dont think he would be trying to beat the system only to admit that he was going to fail the test right before his fight, that doesnt make a bit of sense to me. Time will tell but I did see an interesting picture of Sonnen's back at the weigh-ins for his fight with Anderson compared to pics from the weigh-ins for his fights with Okami and Marquardt and you can tell that he has a ton of acne on his back, a trait of steroid abuse, so that doesnt make him look good either.
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        • jeremym480
          Speak it into existence
          • Oct 2008
          • 18198

          #49
          Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

          This was on Middle Easy's "Rumor Mill":

          There's still a relatively strong chance that Chael Sonnen may be exonerated in this whole 'UFC 117 steroid scandal'. The rumor is that Team Quest has injected Chael Sonnen with direct 'testosterone' in the past and there doesn't seem to be an explicit policy against it.
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          • Gotmadskillzson
            Live your life
            • Apr 2008
            • 23428

            #50
            Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

            Ummm that should be banned. I mean come on.....direct testosterone is an enhancer. People don't inject that stuff just for the hell of it.

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            • LingeringRegime
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2007
              • 17089

              #51
              Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

              Yeah, when people are sitting around and injecting things into their body, usually nothing good comes from it.

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              • Gotmadskillzson
                Live your life
                • Apr 2008
                • 23428

                #52
                Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                I mean really if Sonnen been doing that his whole career, I would strip all his wins away from his record. Or do him like they did Barry Bonds and put a * next to every win he has.

                Honestly......that just makes me look at him in a whole other light now. How do now know his wins are because of him and not because he been injecting himself with testerone his whole career ?

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                • LingeringRegime
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 17089

                  #53
                  Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                  Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                  I mean really if Sonnen been doing that his whole career, I would strip all his wins away from his record. Or do him like they did Barry Bonds and put a * next to every win he has.

                  Honestly......that just makes me look at him in a whole other light now. How do now know his wins are because of him and not because he been injecting himself with testerone his whole career ?
                  That is probably why he always talking so much ****. He KNEW he had an advantage over everyone. But, up to this point in his career he really hasn't done much. Sure, he strung some wins together and got a title shot, but he lost. Like I said earlier in the thread it would have been bad if he would have won that fight against Silva. It would give the media another golden opportunity to crucify MMA as a sport.

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #54
                    Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                    Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                    I mean really if Sonnen been doing that his whole career, I would strip all his wins away from his record. Or do him like they did Barry Bonds and put a * next to every win he has.

                    Honestly......that just makes me look at him in a whole other light now. How do now know his wins are because of him and not because he been injecting himself with testerone his whole career ?
                    I only care if its illegal. EVERY single fighter in the UFC uses supplements and other sources to get bigger, slim down and recover from injuries faster. If its something that isnt covered by the state's prohibited substances list, I could care less if they use it.

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                    • Phobia
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11623

                      #55
                      Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                      I just got to say this. Did not want to make a whole thread for it.

                      Kyra Gracie (black belt killer of a women) is smoking HOT!!!!! No make up and still pretty in some of the pics.






                      She got that look of "I can hurt you.........good"

                      I would let her teach me her BJJ ways all day lol

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                      • Gotmadskillzson
                        Live your life
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 23428

                        #56
                        Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                        She looks like my old college buddy in chicago no lie. Put some DD's on her and you got my college buddy.

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                        • Phobia
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 11623

                          #57
                          Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                          Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                          She looks like my old college buddy in chicago no lie. Put some DD's on her and you got my college buddy.
                          Yea she looks just like my ex-girlfriend little sister. I bet I can find a pic on facebook. Lets see

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                          • Trevelyan
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1047

                            #58
                            Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                            I've seen that first picture of her before, and let me say...she is not ugly at all. lol

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                            • Sandman42
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 15186

                              #59
                              Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                              Unless someone can point me to studies showing that steroids and banned PEDS are more effective than over the counter supplements guys are taken I still feel that everyone is on an equal playing field. Just think the guys who get caught are dumb, because they could just be using legal supplements.
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                              • allBthere
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 5847

                                #60
                                Re: Sonnen tests positive for PEDs at UFC 117...

                                Originally posted by Sandman42
                                Unless someone can point me to studies showing that steroids and banned PEDS are more effective than over the counter supplements guys are taken I still feel that everyone is on an equal playing field. Just think the guys who get caught are dumb, because they could just be using legal supplements.
                                that's interesting and an argument I've never seen before.

                                What kind of supplement can give the same athletic boosts/gains as anabolic steroids?

                                I've actually been looking at supplements that supposedly help boost testosterone, because I feel I'm too laid back and will get more of what I want with a bit more aggression and/or edge. lol. ZMA is one of them -

                                BUT...I'm not convinced and I just don't think there is anything anyone could take that would change them the way anabolic steroids do.

                                ps.. i'd like that girl to put me in a triangle choke haha
                                Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

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