EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[Biizz]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

I will just come out and say it.....Biizz you are suspect. Something tells me you are banned user with a new account. Looking at your account, it is only a few days old. You say had the same discussion on Elite, but with this account, the ONLY forum you posted on was this one.

And I have noticed out of all the posts on this thread, you are the only one that always so happen to mention EA's name in your discussions. So it seems to me you just have an agenda with EA.

I mean the 1st post you made on this website you said this game had N64 graphics. Not only that, but from the get go you said, EA should stop trying to make simulation games and all of their games are arcadey.

All of them ? Really ?

You not even a fan of MMA because in your own words you don't even understand grappling or the concept of MMA. All you know is to mash buttons try to play the game as though it is a boxing game.

So tell me really, who you trying to fool ? It isn't the demo you are concerned with, or the actual sport of MMA, you just concerned with the fact it is made by EA.

Because all of your posts end up going back to EA.

Well, first of all this is my first and only account on this website. I've lurked for quite a while, though. Operation Sports isn't the only forum out there in case you didn't know.

I don't have an agenda with EA, EA is just the only company I know of with a fanbase that will defend even their poorest efforts to the death.

I've never played NHL so I can't speak on them, but other than that yes they are all arcade style games. Madden, Live, Fight Night, and FIFA are arcade like to me. I say FIFA because I gave that game a chance due to all the critical acclaim but the ref never calls fouls on the CPU. It doesn't matter if the CPU didn't touch the ball at all when he tackled, they would not call any fouls at all. To me, that's not sim.

Actually I'm a very big fan of MMA, I understand it just fine. I said I don't exactly know how to grapple in this game. I am very much against button mashing, which is why I'm extremely disappointed in this game. Button mashing is the most effective tactic.

I'm not concerned with anything, I just think this game is terribly unrealistic along with every other EA sports game i've played in the last year or two. I feel like most of the people praising this game are doing so just because Undisputed was crap.

[Phobia]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Wow I got a guy I know that can hook you with some good good for your depression

Joking aside. Dude I don't know how to read you either. Everything out your mouth is negative. You think people want to read about you just whining and crying how EA does not make you happy.

I am sorry but no one wants to read that. Providing insight to help the game is one thing but just hating and complaining does NOTHING.

For instance. I think there is a issue with the ground and pound. The animations are off and need some work. I mention my complaint and move on to other areas of the game that I enjoy.

That way the company can see what is working and what is not. I personally agree with GMSS I truly believe you are a ex banned user. Just judging by your posts it is very similar to what we see often around here from pink names.

[jugganott]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

The problem is sometimes some of these gamers have a hard time with other gamers enjoying what they don't enjoy. If someone likes the game, it's not the end of the world. If YOU hate the game, that's not going to ruin my enjoyment. If I'm not a fan of Harry Potter it's not like I'll watch the movie then sprint home to jump on the Harry Potter forums (if their is one) and blitz it with my rants of how the movie was horrible. I'll move on. Not so with the EA products as of late. It's more like..."let me go out of my way to tell the world in the most childish way that I can how much this game blows". Bravo--lets just sink every game. If we can't, we can feel great that we gave a 100% effort to destroy it. Sheesh.

[Biizz]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Wow I got a guy I know that can hook you with some good good for your depression

Joking aside. Dude I don't know how to read you either. Everything out your mouth is negative. You think people want to read about you just whining and crying how EA does not make you happy.

I am sorry but no one wants to read that. Providing insight to help the game is one thing but just hating and complaining does NOTHING.

For instance. I think there is a issue with the ground and pound. The animations are off and need some work. I mention my complaint and move on to other areas of the game that I enjoy.

That way the company can see what is working and what is not. I personally agree with GMSS I truly believe you are a ex banned user. Just judging by your posts it is very similar to what we see often around here from pink names.

Everything out of my mouth is negative because this is a poor attempt at an MMA simulation. I don't see a single redeeming quality in this game. I see all of these people saying that this terribly flawed demo is better than Undisputed and I think it's just a bold faced lie. I don't even like Undisputed, I rented it and sent it back within a week. I think it's a completely unrealistic pile of crap.

That said, it's put together better than the demo and every EA MMA gameplay vid i've seen. At least in that game when you set the AI to the highest difficulty you can't go in and KO the CPU in 10 seconds with a wrestler.

Maybe they can do better in the future, (I doubt it), but for right now this game looks horrible and I feel like it's my duty to let fellow gamers who might be reading this thread know that it is being highly overrated. I know personally I feel cheated when I get my hands on a bad game with good reviews.

I wouldn't have even put this demo out, they should have just released it and gotten their money from anyone willing to buy it.

Whether or not you believe me I don't really care, but this is in fact my first and only account on this website.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Wow I got a guy I know that can hook you with some good good for your depression

Joking aside. Dude I don't know how to read you either. Everything out your mouth is negative. You think people want to read about you just whining and crying how EA does not make you happy.

I am sorry but no one wants to read that. Providing insight to help the game is one thing but just hating and complaining does NOTHING.

For instance. I think there is a issue with the ground and pound. The animations are off and need some work. I mention my complaint and move on to other areas of the game that I enjoy.

That way the company can see what is working and what is not. I personally agree with GMSS I truly believe you are a ex banned user. Just judging by your posts it is very similar to what we see often around here from pink names.

either that or he will be a pink name shortly if he keeps it up. theer is constructive criticism and theres flat out bashing, his posts are leaning toward the latter

[allBthere]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

I don't think it's terrible, but I feel it's being overhyped in here as well.

Here is my short take:

jabs are great, very happy about that and a nice surprise.

ground transitions are ok, I think I like them more than UFC, but I'm not sure.

light ground attacks like guard down strikes are great because they relay that feeling of real mma where they might hurt slightly, but are more annoying and score a little bit, and force or taunt a reaction.

Some throws are great

kicks are flat out terrible - hora-awful, no power and no reaction and awkward overall. As a long time martial artist, this is really disappointing.

Movement isn't as bad as I thought, but movement happens too fast still imo in relation to other movements. If a left hook is that slow for example, than moving around 10ft of mat space is way too fast.

Controls are 'sticky' and sluggish - AND inconsistent. They don' allow the user to pull of good common combo's either. It's not responsive enough, and some combo's don't flow as they should, like a 1,2,3.

36 takedown attempts by the CPU is a bit much imo

Graphics: I'm not the biggest gfx whore, but comments saying they are better than UFC imo are very misguided. The character models are not nearly as good imo - however the muscle flexing and movement is great, and some of the lighting is great too.

Sound is way below UFC i every aspect.

Presentation is lacking as well...yes they've ticked boxes like entrances (i don't care) but they lack execution. I just skip because they don't do their job.

there is also the trademark EA cutscene freeze where during camera cuts the curent shot freezes breifly before moving to the new one. It's like all of EA Sports uses the same _____________ that causes the same problem in all titles. I guess the retail disk will also make my xbox work like crazy too (why the heck is that?).


So overall I liked it, but it's not a world beater either - The striking is better in UFC '09 imo...but '09 is showing it's age and doesn't have sways and head movment and that's in EA's game.

In the end, I'll rent or buy it but maybe not right away as I'm converted to getting nba 2k11....

...but this game has made me realize that what I REALLY want is for THQ to get back on track and really nail their next effort. UFC can still evolve into where it should be and I'm not counting that out. I really think they KNOW it's not where it should be.

I also think some kudos are in order to EA, it's not easy to make an MMA game, and it's playable and fun, but not without its frustrations. This thread is being blown out of proportions in both directions. It's not this year's sports GOTY and it's also not someting that drops out of ****'s.

[Nines]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Trolls aside... would you guys say EA's MMA is a better take on the sport than Undisputed? I'm trying to get into the genre, but UFC's overly convoluted take on the sport has kept me away. I can't download it atm is why I'm asking.

[Biizz]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

The problem is sometimes some of these gamers have a hard time with other gamers enjoying what they don't enjoy. If someone likes the game, it's not the end of the world. If YOU hate the game, that's not going to ruin my enjoyment. If I'm not a fan of Harry Potter it's not like I'll watch the movie then sprint home to jump on the Harry Potter forums (if their is one) and blitz it with my rants of how the movie was horrible. I'll move on. Not so with the EA products as of late. It's more like..."let me go out of my way to tell the world in the most childish way that I can how much this game blows". Bravo--lets just sink every game. If we can't, we can feel great that we gave a 100% effort to destroy it. Sheesh.

Actually it'd be more like if you were a Harry Potter fan who thought the latest movie had a bad plot, bad acting, bad directing, bad sets, and bad CGI and you went home, sat down at your computer, and wrote an honest review of what you had seen.

I have no problem with anyone enjoying any game. What I do have a problem with is people vastly overrating a game, because other people read that stuff and put their hard earned money into a game that doesn't deliver.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Actually it'd be more like if you were a Harry Potter fan who thought the latest movie had a bad plot, bad acting, bad directing, bad sets, and bad CGI and you went home, sat down at your computer, and wrote an honest review of what you had seen.

if thats the case you write that review once, you dont retort everytime some posts a positve about said form of entertainment that you didnt like. you say your peace and leave it at that. reacting to every positve post about the game makes it seem like you have an agenda of some sorts.

[Biizz]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

if thats the case you write that review once, you dont retort everytime some posts a positve about said form of entertainment that you didnt like. you say your peace and leave it at that. reacting to every positve post about the game makes it seem like you have an agenda of some sorts.

I didn't do that. I retorted every time someone quoted one of my posts and disagreed with me. If people don't want to have a conversation/debate on the subject then they shouldn't be addressing dissenting opinions.

[jugganott]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Trolls aside... would you guys say EA's MMA is a better take on the sport than Undisputed? I'm trying to get into the genre, but UFC's overly convoluted take on the sport has kept me away. I can't download it atm is why I'm asking.

If the controls of UFC are complex to you then YES. MMA does have better controls. I guess some sim guys want MORE control but I'm fine with having ONE button to execute me doing something simple as getting off the mat. I'm okay with ONE BUTTON to say I don't want to get took to the floor. I'm also okay with one button to submit or to get a better position. I pre ordered it today because I like the direction that they are going and I want to give it a chance. It was fun, the controls were smooth to me for what I was trying to do.

[Bronk_Bonin]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

I will just come out and say it.....Biizz you are suspect. Something tells me you are banned user with a new account. Looking at your account, it is only a few days old. You say had the same discussion on Elite, but with this account, the ONLY forum you posted on was this one.

And I have noticed out of all the posts on this thread, you are the only one that always so happen to mention EA's name in your discussions. So it seems to me you just have an agenda with EA.

I mean the 1st post you made on this website you said this game had N64 graphics. Not only that, but from the get go you said, EA should stop trying to make simulation games and all of their games are arcadey.

All of them ? Really ?

You not even a fan of MMA because in your own words you don't even understand grappling or the concept of MMA. All you know is to mash buttons try to play the game as though it is a boxing game.

So tell me really, who you trying to fool ? It isn't the demo you are concerned with, or the actual sport of MMA, you just concerned with the fact it is made by EA.

Because all of your posts end up going back to EA.

I was just about to post something similar to this.

[jugganott]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

if thats the case you write that review once, you dont retort everytime some posts a positve about said form of entertainment that you didnt like. you say your peace and leave it at that. reacting to every positve post about the game makes it seem like you have an agenda of some sorts.

Yes--a hidden agenda. I'm just saying--the graphics look like throwback graphics? Seriously? C'mon. What's that all about.

[ManiacMatt1782]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

I didn't do that. I retorted every time someone quoted one of my posts and disagreed with me. If people don't want to have a conversation/debate on the subject then they shouldn't be addressing dissenting opinions.

and you very well may be just doing that, im just elling you how you come off to a good portion of the community.

[Biizz]

Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

Guys, you're right. I went a little overboard, they don't look like N64 graphics.

The graphics look like those Def Jam fighting games on the Gamecube.