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  • Phobia
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    • Jan 2008
    • 11623

    #316
    Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    Originally posted by TheShizNo1
    Ok, my opinion is changing...I'm starting to like it more and more. The controls are goona take a lot adjustments. How do you parry?
    Hold RT(block) and flick right stick left or right. If you flick left stick instead it is head slips

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    • TheShizNo1
      Asst 2 the Comm Manager
      • Mar 2007
      • 26341

      #317
      Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      Originally posted by Phobia
      Hold RT(block) and flick right stick left or right. If you flick left stick instead it is head slips
      Ok. Yea, it's starting to bring me back to it. I think the problem was me playing on medium. I moved it up to hard and am probably at .500 with the CPU. Having a lot of fun trying to stick to my strategy while also keeping stamina in mind.
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      • Gotmadskillzson
        Live your life
        • Apr 2008
        • 23428

        #318
        Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Another thing I am really digging about this game is that you can do advanced submissions without having to stun your opponent 1st. That was my biggest gripe about Undisputed, in order to do a darce choke, anaconda choke, peruvian necktie, etc, your opponent had to be stunned or you could only do it as a counter move.

        In this game, you can do it whenever, as long as you in position to do it. Opponent don't have to be stunned, nor do it have to be a counter sub move.

        These controls are much deeper then what it appears to be on the surface.

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        • Gotmadskillzson
          Live your life
          • Apr 2008
          • 23428

          #319
          Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          Oh yeah have any of you guys watch somebody ask play the game and noticed how life like the people move on the game ? Kind of hard to really notice it when you are the one playing.

          But the way they go about transitioning and going for subs, it is life like. You see them using their hands to push off, twist their hips on the ground to try to get back into full guard. When they go for triangle chokes, you see them push the shoulder down before they put the leg up over it.

          Same thing with the clinch up against the cage. You see them pushing their arms through trying to break the grip. And seeing a wizard off the cage is so life like. Because none of the moves are like BOOM its there, it happen.

          All of them gradually happen. You see them struggling and attempting to pull it off and see the other guy struggling and attempting to keep you from pulling it off. So when you do see a wizard off the cage or triangle choke, it makes even more rewarding.

          Same thing goes for back control. You just don't automatically take somebody's back and have both hooks in automatically. You got to manually get both hooks in. And you can manually choose to take one hook out for you can better balance yourself.

          Same thing with elbows, one of my friends was pissed because he wasn't throwing elbows in the clinch. I told him this game is different, you don't automatically do anything, if you want to throw an elbow, you manually have to choose to do so, just punching not going to give you an automatic elbow.

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          • geezmeister
            Rookie
            • Mar 2009
            • 46

            #320
            I hope there is a slider for game speed. It's a little slow for me. But this game is definitely much better than undisputed. I think online fights will be addictive when this bad boy comes out. Pumped!

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            • Bronk_Bonin
              Rookie
              • Feb 2003
              • 475

              #321
              Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
              Same thing goes for back control. You just don't automatically take somebody's back and have both hooks in automatically. You got to manually get both hooks in. And you can manually choose to take one hook out for you can better balance yourself.

              Same thing with elbows, one of my friends was pissed because he wasn't throwing elbows in the clinch. I told him this game is different, you don't automatically do anything, if you want to throw an elbow, you manually have to choose to do so, just punching not going to give you an automatic elbow.
              Can you please explain to me how this is done? How do you manually sink in your hooks and manually strike with elbows from full mount?
              PSN: bronk14

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              • sb24
                MVP
                • Dec 2008
                • 3165

                #322
                Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Alright I played the game last night with a buddy of mine. Still really not sure how I feel about the game. Hes more or less a "spammer" and I knew that going in but figured this would be a good tell on how online may end up. Well it was a KO fest. We didnt have one fight make it past the first.

                I did figure out how to use headmovement and parry, but it only helped but so much. Considering we were both blocking, trying to parry, and bob & weave, I feel the striking may be too effective against a guy trying to block it. At the same time, I also understand striking is always my weakest point so maybe thats why. And yes I was able to take him down if needed but there is something I do not like about the striking. Part of that is still trying to figure out the movement and the way guys can cover a lot of ground while punching.

                The ground game was pretty good. I found myself getting mount pretty easy but then found that I couldnt land a punch. My friend was spamming to get back to standing. At that point it made it much simpler to throw on a sub, but I am still terrible at those mini games. I really do like what the submission mini games bring, they are fun and fairly easy to figure out(Even if I suck at them). Overall I feel the ground game is solid except for reversals IMO. I would prefer you have a way of reversing a "spammer" without waiting for them to try an aggressive transition. On top of that I get mount easily enough without having to take a risk with an aggressive transition.

                Phobia you were right about the cpu parry. I didnt notice since I never throw many punches unless Im in full mount. They do need to do something about the AI just letting you pound their face in from full mount tho.

                Right now I am leaning toward buying the game, but I have plenty of time to make up my mind. It is a solid first effort either way and I give them credit for that.

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                • Phobia
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 11623

                  #323
                  Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Originally posted by sb24
                  Alright I played the game last night with a buddy of mine. Still really not sure how I feel about the game. Hes more or less a "spammer" and I knew that going in but figured this would be a good tell on how online may end up. Well it was a KO fest. We didnt have one fight make it past the first.

                  I did figure out how to use headmovement and parry, but it only helped but so much. Considering we were both blocking, trying to parry, and bob & weave, I feel the striking may be too effective against a guy trying to block it. At the same time, I also understand striking is always my weakest point so maybe thats why. And yes I was able to take him down if needed but there is something I do not like about the striking. Part of that is still trying to figure out the movement and the way guys can cover a lot of ground while punching.

                  The ground game was pretty good. I found myself getting mount pretty easy but then found that I couldnt land a punch. My friend was spamming to get back to standing. At that point it made it much simpler to throw on a sub, but I am still terrible at those mini games. I really do like what the submission mini games bring, they are fun and fairly easy to figure out(Even if I suck at them). Overall I feel the ground game is solid except for reversals IMO. I would prefer you have a way of reversing a "spammer" without waiting for them to try an aggressive transition. On top of that I get mount easily enough without having to take a risk with an aggressive transition.

                  Phobia you were right about the cpu parry. I didnt notice since I never throw many punches unless Im in full mount. They do need to do something about the AI just letting you pound their face in from full mount tho.

                  Right now I am leaning toward buying the game, but I have plenty of time to make up my mind. It is a solid first effort either way and I give them credit for that.
                  Your goal against a transition spammer SB should be to just DENY DENY DENY DENY. This will then make them extremely tired and easy to slap on a sub. That is the counter to transitions spammers. They expel all their energy making it easy for you to sub them.

                  Now someone that looks to protect themselves and pace themselves on the ground THEN you look to land shots and pass while they are defending the punch.

                  From the sound of it, it sounded like it went the way it should of. Except I would of demolished him on the ground from the get go if he was spamming.

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                  • sb24
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 3165

                    #324
                    Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    Questions for Phobia and GMSS.

                    How do you posture up in full guard or any other position?
                    How do you lock your legs in from back mount?
                    How do you throw elbows instead of punches? (havent really tried but am interesed)

                    Any other little tricks you guys have found?

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                    • Gotmadskillzson
                      Live your life
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 23428

                      #325
                      Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      1. throwing elbows from clinch or mount is the same motion you use to throw a hook.

                      2. Postering up is the stand up button. When you do it full mount, he will push down on their fore head with his forearm and sit straight up .

                      3. Putting hooks in is a transition move.

                      Guys keep in mind the direction your press the LS along with the transition or takedown button also effects what kind of moves you will do too. There is more then just one type of move.

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                      • Jukeman
                        Showtime
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10955

                        #326
                        Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        This game is looking good, even the graphics...It just works well for this type of game...

                        Cant wait to rent and try the full version before I decide to buy

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                        • Gotmadskillzson
                          Live your life
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 23428

                          #327
                          Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Overeem got a sick looking arm bar from full guard. The way he does it is he takes his arm and hooks your leg causing you to full to the side and then he quickly throws his legs around the arm you use to brace yourself from falling to the side. That move is sweet looking.

                          It will catch a lot of people off guard that is for sure. I am telling you ground and pound people got stuff to fear in this game. Don't lay in full guard thats all I have to say. It gotten to the point now I kind of let Lashely take me down, then I quickly get into full guard. Let him start swinging for some ground n pound, then I just sneak that arm bar on him.

                          That arm bar is sneaky. I like that, I like that a lot. Just like I like you can catch people with an upper cut that love to shoot in. Time it right and they will drop. I can't wait for the full version of this game for I can play in Japan or Brazil and start soccer kicking people that I drop with an uppercut.

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                          • Phobia
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 11623

                            #328
                            Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                            1. throwing elbows from clinch or mount is the same motion you use to throw a hook.

                            2. Postering up is the stand up button. When you do it full mount, he will push down on their fore head with his forearm and sit straight up . There is two poster up moves. A) One is the one GMSS is describing B) Is another step after you poster up. If you hit the standup button a second time once postered up, then you will attempt to stand in their guard

                            3. Putting hooks in is a transition move. I have never seen 1 hook, All I have seen is putting both hooks in

                            Guys keep in mind the direction your press the LS along with the transition or takedown button also effects what kind of moves you will do too. There is more then just one type of move. Yea there is a little more to the transition ground game than I think most have realized
                            I think the Parry system is one of the most important aspects of the game. It allows you to take no damage, throw the strike to the side or catch the kick, removes a large chunk of stamina from attacker, and can be used on both ground and standing.

                            It is extremely important on the ground. Covering up and blocking will force you into taking shots (realistic, little gloves still HURT). But parrying will prevent you from taking the damage while tiring the opponent which allows you to pass OR get them off you.

                            The draw back to the parry is it is risky. You must pick the correct side they are attacking. So while it has great reward, the big draw back is if you choose wrong then you eat a punch unguarded.
                            Last edited by Phobia; 09-30-2010, 03:54 PM.

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                            • Gotmadskillzson
                              Live your life
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 23428

                              #329
                              Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              You can also parry when somebody has your back or somebody has you in full mount as well. Which is neat. Now no need to freak out if somebody got your back or full mounted you. You can just parry and they will hit nothing but air, tiring themselves out, giving you a window to buck them off.

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                              • jeremym480
                                Speak it into existence
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 18197

                                #330
                                Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                I downloaded it last night and I liked it. I fought with Mayhem vs. Shields and he took me down over and over again. I suck at defending the take-down. I'm using Classic Controls and I still find myself trying to use UFC controls at times too so, I probably just need to get some more practice in.

                                Also, the graphics are definitely top notch. SMH at dude comparing them to a N64 game. That's just plain hate right there. Come on.

                                Anyways, I plan on getting some more game time in tonight or throughout the weekend so that I can make a decision on whether this is a day one purchase or not. Either way I'll definitely pick it up at some point. Good job EA
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