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  • Buckeye
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    • Dec 2009
    • 2939

    #31
    Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Nelson vs. Carwin -1/1/11

    Takanori Gomi vs. Clay Guida this fight is easily my favorite on the match card.
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    • Azamien
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      • Mar 2005
      • 1475

      #32
      Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Nelson vs. Carwin -1/1/11

      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
      I hope this is his last fight in this weight class, time for dude to move on up
      Could you clarify something for me? Why do you want him to move up?

      I ask because I constantly see this for all dominating fighters. Why would you want them to move up to a weight class where it's simply size putting them at a disadvantage rather than stay in the weight class where their talent shines the most?

      For example, I always see people calling for GSP to move up. Would his fights really be more exciting if he moves up to become an undersized MW? Look at BJ Penn. He's a dominating LW (except against Edgar, apparently) but when he moves up to WW (or higher) he becomes an ordinary fighter. Wouldn't you rather watch him at his best?

      I'm not picking on you. I'm genuinely curious.
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      • The Chef
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        • Sep 2003
        • 13684

        #33
        Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Nelson vs. Carwin -1/1/11

        Originally posted by Azamien
        Could you clarify something for me? Why do you want him to move up?

        I ask because I constantly see this for all dominating fighters. Why would you want them to move up to a weight class where it's simply size putting them at a disadvantage rather than stay in the weight class where their talent shines the most?

        For example, I always see people calling for GSP to move up. Would his fights really be more exciting if he moves up to become an undersized MW? Look at BJ Penn. He's a dominating LW (except against Edgar, apparently) but when he moves up to WW (or higher) he becomes an ordinary fighter. Wouldn't you rather watch him at his best?

        I'm not picking on you. I'm genuinely curious.
        All valid points. Having said that, I think it boils down to certain fighters having dominated their current weight class to the point that there arent many challenges left so fans want to see them either go up or down for that one superfight between two guys who have basically cleaned out their divisions.
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        • ex carrabba fan
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          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #34
          Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Nelson vs. Carwin -1/1/11

          It was an initial reaction, here's what I posted in the other thread about the merge.

          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
          I was thinking that, there may be a shift.. a number of lightweights can now go down to featherweight to challenge Aldo... so maybe Aldo won't have to move up immediately to find great match ups.

          Originally posted by Azamien
          Could you clarify something for me? Why do you want him to move up?

          I ask because I constantly see this for all dominating fighters. Why would you want them to move up to a weight class where it's simply size putting them at a disadvantage rather than stay in the weight class where their talent shines the most?

          For example, I always see people calling for GSP to move up. Would his fights really be more exciting if he moves up to become an undersized MW? Look at BJ Penn. He's a dominating LW (except against Edgar, apparently) but when he moves up to WW (or higher) he becomes an ordinary fighter. Wouldn't you rather watch him at his best?

          I'm not picking on you. I'm genuinely curious.
          But to answer the question, because eventually I would love for him to make the move-- as a fan I want to see these guys move around and fight in other divisions because of the prospect of it all. It'd be very exciting, pure and simple.

          Now to your point of being fighters like GSP being undersized, it's not like it'd be this unnatural thing, he's 24 years old, that's still pretty darn young to develop that frame. Eventually it'd be only natural for him to go up in weight, or at least it wouldn't put a harsh strain on his body. So comparing GSP and Penn really doesn't make much sense when speaking on Aldo.

          Now I have always wanted him to move up simply to be in the UFC.. now that they're one it makes it a lot easier to have new fights assuming this guy continues to win. I'm not against him staying in featherweight for the foreseeable future, especially with the possibility of LW's moving down...

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          • TheShizNo1
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            • Mar 2007
            • 26341

            #35
            Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Nelson vs. Carwin -1/1/11

            GSP is only 24?!?
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            • ex carrabba fan
              I'll thank him for you
              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #36
              Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Aldo vs. Grispi -1/1/11

              Yeah he is!!

              No he isn't

              Was referring to Aldo

              If Aldo goes up to LW, I really don't think the size will be that big of a factor for him. FW/LW difference seems like a doable thing, especially given Aldo's circumstances/age/skill

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              • Sandman42
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2004
                • 15186

                #37
                Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Aldo vs. Grispi -1/1/11

                Aldo out with an injury.

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                • jeremym480
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                  • Oct 2008
                  • 18198

                  #38
                  Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Aldo vs. Grispi -1/1/11

                  Originally posted by Sandman42
                  Well, ****.

                  Anyways, is there any new news about Roy Nelson his contract problems?
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                  • Sandman42
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                    • Aug 2004
                    • 15186

                    #39
                    Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Aldo vs. Grispi -1/1/11

                    Originally posted by jeremym480
                    Well, ****.

                    Anyways, is there any new news about Roy Nelson his contract problems?
                    Last I heard was he wasn't going to fight until they can resolve this issue because Roy Jones Jr.'s promotion was suing Nelson and the UFC because Nelson apparently owed them one more fight, but Nelson instead went to compete on TUF.

                    A similar thing happened with Dave Herman in Bellator this year and he was in limbo for a few months.
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                    • jeremym480
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                      • Oct 2008
                      • 18198

                      #40
                      Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard, Aldo vs. Grispi -1/1/11

                      Originally posted by Sandman42
                      Last I heard was he wasn't going to fight until they can resolve this issue because Roy Jones Jr.'s promotion was suing Nelson and the UFC because Nelson apparently owed them one more fight, but Nelson instead went to compete on TUF.

                      A similar thing happened with Dave Herman in Bellator this year and he was in limbo for a few months.
                      I read a few days ago that thing's were heating back up. Dana said that Nelson screwed Jones Jr over. I decided to quit being lazy and google it. This was posted a few hours ago: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/11/2...fighter-you-do

                      I don't really see anything new. Hopefully, nothing comes of it and he can continue his career in the UFC.
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                      • Dog
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                        • Aug 2008
                        • 11846

                        #41
                        Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard-1/1/11

                        I have an opportunity for tickets to this. My Mom gets tickets for free at any event at MGM. But, due to me being under 21, I can't go
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                        • VanCitySportsGuy
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 9351

                          #42
                          Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard-1/1/11

                          Edgar, Maynard, Leben, Stann ............. = Poor PPV Buyrate

                          I'm more hyped up for the other 3 fights on the main card. The main event and co-main event does nothing for me. I'm a hardcore UFC fan and even I'm not going to pay for this.

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                          • sven
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6021

                            #43
                            Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard-1/1/11

                            Leben/Stann should be a good fight but yeah it is no co-main event. They should have made Guida/Gomi the co-main event. People love Guida.

                            I'll be watching this one at a bar for sure.

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                            • The Chef
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                              • Sep 2003
                              • 13684

                              #44
                              Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard-1/1/11

                              Weak card on paper so maybe it turns out to be great like other cards in the past that looked weak on paper as well. I barely care about the card at this point but I would absolutely love to see Maynard smash Edgar's face in, just cant stand Frankie for some reason.
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                              • jb12780
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                                • Oct 2008
                                • 10665

                                #45
                                Re: UFC 125: Revolution - Edgar vs. Maynard-1/1/11

                                Originally posted by jnes12eaglesfan
                                I have an opportunity for tickets to this. My Mom gets tickets for free at any event at MGM. But, due to me being under 21, I can't go
                                Thats rediculous. They should give U-21's like wristbands or something that will only allows access to the arena, not the bars or the casino itself. Then again, I'm also U-21 and never been to Vegas.
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