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  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #121
    Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

    Originally posted by Pappy Knuckles
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    I can't blame Dana one bit. Although I think it was a bit ridiculous for him to say "oh Nick didn't come to the media day, Nick didn't come to the press conference, is Nick gonna show up to the fight?" Dana could have done without that statement. We all know Diaz would have been there.

    Other than that I agree with everything Dana said and did. Nick's own trainer seems to think Diaz disrespected him.

    You always want to have those "keep it real" guys in every sport, but this is a case where the guy who marches to the beat of his own drum deserves what he got.

    How many chances does this guy deserve? I have no clue where he goes from here, it's clear he is never going to change even when there's big money on the table. Send him back to Strikeforce?

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    • VanCitySportsGuy
      NYG_Meth
      • Feb 2003
      • 9351

      #122
      Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

      There's a Dana interview over at Heavy.com and he said Fitch won't be fighting Penn. He tried to book Fitch vs. Hughes but Fitch wouldn't be ready in time.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #123
        Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        I can't blame Dana one bit. Although I think it was a bit ridiculous for him to say "oh Nick didn't come to the media day, Nick didn't come to the press conference, is Nick gonna show up to the fight?" Dana could have done without that statement. We all know Diaz would have been there.

        Other than that I agree with everything Dana said and did. Nick's own trainer seems to think Diaz disrespected him.

        You always want to have those "keep it real" guys in every sport, but this is a case where the guy who marches to the beat of his own drum deserves what he got.

        How many chances does this guy deserve? I have no clue where he goes from here, it's clear he is never going to change even when there's big money on the table. Send him back to Strikeforce?
        Are you sure? I'm not sure he would have shown. Not because he's scared but because he's irresponsible. He's failed drug tests, missed press conferences and missed weight before. Who wants to take that risk?

        I'd make his *** sit out. They have a 4 fight deal with him. Put his *** on the sidelines for 6 months or more. Because of the UFC deal, he can't box or do anything else. Make him come around to the UFC's way of promoting a fight or he doesn't fight.

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        • Bacon Vortex
          Rookie
          • Apr 2011
          • 142

          #124
          Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Are you sure? I'm not sure he would have shown. Not because he's scared but because he's irresponsible. He's failed drug tests, missed press conferences and missed weight before. Who wants to take that risk?

          I'd make his *** sit out. They have a 4 fight deal with him. Put his *** on the sidelines for 6 months or more. Because of the UFC deal, he can't box or do anything else. Make him come around to the UFC's way of promoting a fight or he doesn't fight.
          They have to fire him. UFC cannot be in the business of starving people. That's for WWE to do. If you can't get behind the biggest fight of your own career, how can anyone make an investment in you. He hasn't beaten anyone that wasn't washed up or just plain bad in a long time anyway. I think Nick Diaz is great and super entertaining, and he doesn't pull any punches in the interview department. I respect his candor and ability. But If I were Dana, I'd pull the plug.

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          • ex carrabba fan
            I'll thank him for you
            • Oct 2004
            • 32744

            #125
            Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

            If he missed another two days worth of media coverage, then yes I'd actually start to question if he was stable enough to make the actual fight.

            But let's be honest.

            1. Yes, Dana was correct in his decision. I've said that from the beginning
            2. I can't recall the last time he's no showed on actual fight night

            There would have to be more evidence for me to believe he would be that out of his mind to no show a title fight.

            There is a process of doing things, and Nick didn't follow it. He deserves whatever he gets, but from what we know of Nick today, I would put money that Nick would definitely still show up to the fight.

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            • hogfan
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 1281

              #126
              Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              If he missed another two days worth of media coverage, then yes I'd actually start to question if he was stable enough to make the actual fight.

              But let's be honest.

              1. Yes, Dana was correct in his decision. I've said that from the beginning
              2. I can't recall the last time he's no showed on actual fight night

              There would have to be more evidence for me to believe he would be that out of his mind to no show a title fight.

              There is a process of doing things, and Nick didn't follow it. He deserves whatever he gets, but from what we know of Nick today, I would put money that Nick would definitely still show up to the fight.
              There is still a risk involved with Diaz not showing up to fight. Especially when you find out how it went down... How even his own mentor couldn't find him.

              Even a small risk is too much went you are putting on a huge event.

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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #127
                Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                If he missed another two days worth of media coverage, then yes I'd actually start to question if he was stable enough to make the actual fight.

                But let's be honest.

                1. Yes, Dana was correct in his decision. I've said that from the beginning
                2. I can't recall the last time he's no showed on actual fight night

                There would have to be more evidence for me to believe he would be that out of his mind to no show a title fight.

                There is a process of doing things, and Nick didn't follow it. He deserves whatever he gets, but from what we know of Nick today, I would put money that Nick would definitely still show up to the fight.
                He had no problem calling in and showing up for the Daley and Cyborg pressers for SF. I think its a case of extreme anxiety (Cesar said as much) because he's in the big leagues and fighting in the biggest fight of his life. I think he would have shown to the fight but would I bet my house on it......no.

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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #128
                  Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

                  IDK, that would be just mind blowing, even for Diaz. In any case, you don't continue to promote a fighter who decides that media obligations aren't important.
                  Originally posted by hogfan
                  There is still a risk involved with Diaz not showing up to fight. Especially when you find out how it went down... How even his own mentor couldn't find him.

                  Even a small risk is too much went you are putting on a huge event.
                  I'm sure that wasn't the first time Gracie couldn't get a hold of him.

                  It all goes back to, yes, if you're the UFC, and your fighter isn't answering your calls, you axe him. No question.

                  I'm simply saying Nick Diaz is a fighter. There's no way in hell I see him no showing on fight night. Or even to the weigh in.

                  But yes, if Diaz is content with doing things his way, Dana and company cannot take that risk. Diaz would be more of a headache than a money maker in the long term.

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #129
                    Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

                    Originally posted by Bacon Vortex
                    They have to fire him. UFC cannot be in the business of starving people. That's for WWE to do. If you can't get behind the biggest fight of your own career, how can anyone make an investment in you. He hasn't beaten anyone that wasn't washed up or just plain bad in a long time anyway. I think Nick Diaz is great and super entertaining, and he doesn't pull any punches in the interview department. I respect his candor and ability. But If I were Dana, I'd pull the plug.
                    Not starving. The guy signed a contract. They did Diaz a HUGE favor and terminated his SF deal (a deal with 3 other fights on it) and gave him a pay increase and a UFC deal. He promised them he would show. Cutting him loose only hurts the UFC. Diaz goes off and gets into boxing or fights in Dream and still makes a decent check. Make him sit and learn a lesson. Bring him back in 2012.

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #130
                      Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

                      Originally posted by aholbert32
                      Not starving. The guy signed a contract. They did Diaz a HUGE favor and terminated his SF deal (a deal with 3 other fights on it) and gave him a pay increase and a UFC deal. He promised them he would show. Cutting him loose only hurts the UFC. Diaz goes off and gets into boxing or fights in Dream and still makes a decent check. Make him sit and learn a lesson. Bring him back in 2012.
                      That is the one positive in all of this.

                      Diaz is basically stuck with the UFC. If he wants to get paid, eventually he's gonna have to conform.

                      It's really still unbelievable he blew this though

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                      • allBthere
                        All Star
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 5847

                        #131
                        Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

                        watching interviews with Nick Diaz I'm convinced he's bi-polar.

                        I think his mental illness is what makes him freak out and have extreme anxiety. I won't be surprised if that comes out in the coming months and there's a whole reveal on it and he gets a second chance blaming his action on the mental aspect of it all. just my 2 cents.
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                        • jeremym480
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                          • Oct 2008
                          • 18198

                          #132
                          Don't be scared, homie

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                          • Gotmadskillzson
                            Live your life
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 23432

                            #133
                            Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

                            All and all I think it is just BS......I don't know why they make fighters promote fights anyway. That is why they have a marketing team for.

                            Dana just needs to admit, he doesn't like the Diaz brothers and never did.

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                            • jeremym480
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                              • Oct 2008
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                              #134
                              Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                              All and all I think it is just BS......I don't know why they make fighters promote fights anyway. That is why they have a marketing team for.

                              Dana just needs to admit, he doesn't like the Diaz brothers and never did.
                              So, this is Dana's fault?

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                              • Gotmadskillzson
                                Live your life
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 23432

                                #135
                                Re: UFC 137: GSP vs Diaz

                                Dana should just let him fight anyway, but take away half of his purse. That would have been the best thing to do.

                                Diaz vs GSP sales more PPVs then Condit vs GSP.

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