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  • PeterFerguson2
    Rookie
    • Oct 2018
    • 8

    #556
    Re: The Official Bellator Thread

    Originally posted by Dave_S
    I just noticed Rory tapped out. Upon replay I really think fight should have been stopped sooner.
    Got wrecked!

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    • Dave_S
      Dave
      • Apr 2016
      • 7835

      #557
      Re: The Official Bellator Thread

      Bader or Mitrione?

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      • johnmangala
        MVP
        • Apr 2016
        • 4525

        #558
        Re: The Official Bellator Thread

        I think Bader is the rightful favorite. He's been on point lately. Mitrione has a good punchers chance however.

        That KO by Nallo was very fun. Similar to Barboza v Dariush.

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        • Dave_S
          Dave
          • Apr 2016
          • 7835

          #559
          Re: The Official Bellator Thread

          Chael is goat trash talker.

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          • Dave_S
            Dave
            • Apr 2016
            • 7835

            #560
            Re: The Official Bellator Thread

            I new it was possible to throw punches while opponent is holding your leg up trying a takedown.

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            • MacGowan
              Sassy
              • Jun 2017
              • 1681

              #561
              Re: The Official Bellator Thread

              dan miragliotta vs Roy Nelson....

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              • Dave_S
                Dave
                • Apr 2016
                • 7835

                #562
                Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                Let's go meathead!

                Booooo. Boo Ryan Bader. Boooo.

                I have it 20-18 for Mitrione so far.

                Final score 30-25 Mitrione for me.
                Last edited by Dave_S; 10-12-2018, 11:49 PM.

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                • Good Grappler
                  Pro
                  • May 2018
                  • 615

                  #563
                  Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                  Bader vs Sonnen is interesting...ish. Only cause Sonnen does have that A-tier offensive wrestling and top game. Sonnen can stifle almost anyone with that, but the holes in his game - particularly his heart, and willingness to fight through submissions/hardships - make him hard to wholeheartedly believe in. On one hand, he CAN 30-27 nearly any man who walks the planet... but on the other hand, he can tap to a half-assed choke attempt from Tito Ortiz. So you never know.

                  Don’t be mistaken though... Sonnen does still got it. He still has that 97 takedown offense, clinch grapple, top game and grapple stamina. He’s just got a few 60s and 70s you gotta watchout for. In his prime - which was basically his run at MW that culminated in his first Silva fight - he didnt have “stats” below 85, aside from submission defense. Hell even his striking was respectable relative to the rest of the MW division.

                  Nowadays, he’s lost a lot of skills, but that offensive wrestling is still there. I believe he’s capable of another shocking performance or two, it’s just a matter of whether he’s willing to take this MMA thing seriously anymore. And I’m not talking a decision win over some washed up Fedor or Wandy. I mean I think he can still beat active fighters currently ranked in the top 10, at HW or LHW. It’s just a matter of the right matchup, and coming in focused.

                  It’s always questionable when he faces a wrestler though. Sometimes it works to his advantage - it’s as if he punishes his opponent for daring challenge his wrestling. Other times, it’s like Sonnen rolls over and says “Ok, you’re the better wrestler, let’s get this over with”. Against Okami and Marquardt - two good grapplers (especially Okami) - he completely dominated. Okami was the king at grinding guys to 29-28 decisions... and Sonnen dominated him in what was at the time the most entertaining and one-sided wrestling domination in MMA. I’m talking suplexes, constant takedowns, the whole nine yards. But then against Rashad, Jones and Tito, it was like he wrestled a year in high school (though I guess we can pardon the Jones loss). So again, as is always the case with Chael P Sonnen... you never know.
                  Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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                  • Good Grappler
                    Pro
                    • May 2018
                    • 615

                    #564
                    Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                    Oh and as far as Bader vs Mitrione, that was a pretty ridiculous matchup on Bellator’s end. Definitely a mismatch.

                    Bader’s a legit, A tier, top 5 LHW. Left the UFC 8-1 in his last 9. He’s in his prime and could beat anyone outside the top few elites.

                    Whereas Mitrione’s hardly C tier. Only reason he’s that good is cause he trains hard and is somewhat fast. Unlike Bader, he was cut - and for good reason. He was losing to guys like B Schaub and Rothwell.

                    Not sure why this had to be the main event. Whenever you can comfortably bet your entire life savings on the outcome of a fight, it’s bad match-making. Anyone with a brain knew Bader would just outwork Mitrione in a hard-to-watch, ugly mismatch.
                    Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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                    • p_rushing
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 14514

                      #565
                      Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                      Originally posted by Good Grappler
                      Oh and as far as Bader vs Mitrione, that was a pretty ridiculous matchup on Bellator’s end. Definitely a mismatch.

                      Bader’s a legit, A tier, top 5 LHW. Left the UFC 8-1 in his last 9. He’s in his prime and could beat anyone outside the top few elites.

                      Whereas Mitrione’s hardly C tier. Only reason he’s that good is cause he trains hard and is somewhat fast. Unlike Bader, he was cut - and for good reason. He was losing to guys like B Schaub and Rothwell.

                      Not sure why this had to be the main event. Whenever you can comfortably bet your entire life savings on the outcome of a fight, it’s bad match-making. Anyone with a brain knew Bader would just outwork Mitrione in a hard-to-watch, ugly mismatch.
                      It's the heavyweight tournament, so it was always going to be the main event. Mitrione looked completely lost in his eyes just laying there. His corner could have thrown in the towel, but be wasn't taking a ton of damage. With it being a LHW vs HW, it wasn't clear that Bader would win. He has been knocked out before, but Mitrione couldn't really throw anything.

                      Fedor vs Chael is a good preview if Fedor wins for the title. Fedor has power and defense to stop the takedown, but doesn't have the gas anymore. Chael won't threaten Fedor with strikes or gas tank either, but he could wrestle him. If Fedor stops the early takedowns, Chael folds and moves on.

                      Bader has to be the favorite to win with the fighters left.

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                      • p_rushing
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 14514

                        #566
                        Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                        Big Country doesn't look like he is even training anymore. What a waste of talent because he wanted to be fat.

                        I'm surprised he continued in the fight after it looked like he took a dive after the foul was called. I was expecting him to quit and take the much needed win.

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                        • Dave_S
                          Dave
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 7835

                          #567
                          Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                          Originally posted by p_rushing
                          Big Country doesn't look like he is even training anymore. What a waste of talent because he wanted to be fat.

                          I'm surprised he continued in the fight after it looked like he took a dive after the foul was called. I was expecting him to quit and take the much needed win.

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                          Glad I'm not only one that thought that. Really looked like he was flopping. (that was illegal as hell though)

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                          • Good Grappler
                            Pro
                            • May 2018
                            • 615

                            #568
                            Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                            Originally posted by p_rushing

                            Fedor has power and defense to stop the takedown, but doesn't have the gas anymore. Chael won't threaten Fedor with strikes or gas tank either, but he could wrestle him. If Fedor stops the early takedowns, Chael folds and moves on.
                            I’d favor Chael. I think his wrestling and conditioning gets it done. I also think Chael’s chin is less deteriorated than Fedors. Chael ate shots from Wandy and Rampage, while Fedor seems to drop from almost everything that touches his head.
                            Last edited by Good Grappler; 10-13-2018, 02:10 PM.
                            Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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                            • Good Grappler
                              Pro
                              • May 2018
                              • 615

                              #569
                              Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                              Originally posted by Dave_S
                              Glad I'm not only one that thought that. Really looked like he was flopping. (that was illegal as hell though)
                              Yeah that was bad. Clearly flopped, you don’t flop like that unless you want out.
                              Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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                              • p_rushing
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 14514

                                #570
                                Re: The Official Bellator Thread

                                Originally posted by Dave_S
                                Glad I'm not only one that thought that. Really looked like he was flopping. [emoji38] (that was illegal as hell though)
                                Originally posted by Good Grappler
                                Yeah that was bad. Clearly flopped, you don’t flop like that unless you want out.
                                Roy does like to take advantage of the rules, so I definitely thought he was going to quit

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