UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

[redsrule]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

Let me start this off by saying I don't like Jon Jones at all. I hope someone KO's him soon. I just don't see it happening. He might be cocky and a moron outside of the cage, but he is amazing inside it. He can do things that nobody else can in MMA.

The only thing I dislike about his performance last night is the constant fingers stretched out/hand in Glover's face. He constantly pokes people in the eye & that is illegal. That being said, if I was him I would do it too since he doesn't get penalized for it.

Saying he could have finished Teixeira at any time is nonsense & an insult to Glover. Glover has a good chin & has excellent BJJ so it's not like Rampage where he can get him down and dominate him there. He stood with him for parts of the fight and traded with him. He dominated him in the clinch. The only "negative" of the fight for him was that he couldn't take Glover down. He stuffed all of Glover's takedowns as well.

I'm looking forward to the Gus/Jones rematch. I thought Gus did enough last time to win the decision.

[blackngoldfan]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

If Cormier wins his next fight, the UFC should setup the winner of Cormier vs Johnson to face Gustaffson for a shot at Jones. I know a lot of people want to see Gustaffson/Jones 2 real soon, but before people start saying "Jones is running" or afraid, I want you to realize that this guy has had 7 title defenses nearly 2 1/2 years. He got the belt in March '11 and his 1st defense was Sep '11. He has no time to run from anyone. Look at other champions... Pettis-Injured, Velasquez-Injured, Cruz-Belt vacated due to injury, Wideman-Injured, Hendricks-Injured, etc.. Jones fought Gustaffson 5 months after nearly snapping his toe off against Sonnen. He's a bad man. Give him his props.

[Thrash13]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

So who does Rumble get next?

It obviously needs to be a big name, since he just beat a highly-ranked Phil Davis. Glover Teixera might be a possibility depending on how long he's out, and Rashad Evans and Jimi Manuwa might be possibilities as well. Those guys are free as far as I know, but I'm not what Rashad's health situation is.

[Phobia]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

Great card, lots of great finishes from KOs, to subs, to decisions. Well worth the entry fee I will say

Maybe someone can explain this to me, why was #2 Joseph Benavidez on the prelims? I thought that was odd for a #2 ranked fighter to be fighting on the bottom end of this card.

Excited to see Matt Brown back out there next week too!

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

It obviously needs to be a big name, since he just beat a highly-ranked Phil Davis. Glover Teixera might be a possibility depending on how long he's out, and Rashad Evans and Jimi Manuwa might be possibilities as well. Those guys are free as far as I know, but I'm not what Rashad's health situation is.

He is training with Evans, so not sure if that fight will happen.

Great card, lots of great finishes from KOs, to subs, to decisions. Well worth the entry fee I will say

Maybe someone can explain this to me, why was #2 Joseph Benavidez on the prelims? I thought that was odd for a #2 ranked fighter to be fighting on the bottom end of this card.

Excited to see Matt Brown back out there next week too!

My only guess is that FOX wants a main-liner on the prelims. Plus the card was stacked.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

It obviously needs to be a big name, since he just beat a highly-ranked Phil Davis. Glover Teixera might be a possibility depending on how long he's out, and Rashad Evans and Jimi Manuwa might be possibilities as well. Those guys are free as far as I know, but I'm not what Rashad's health situation is.

Wont happen beacuse he trains with Evans and Glover and Jimi are coming off losses. He will probably fight the winner of Bader/Feijao since he wants to take it slow and not be pushed for a title shot so quickly.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

eye pokes from almost all his title fights
http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f2/...pokes-2725963/

The showboating started around 1 minute left. I just don't like any of that in the fight. Talk after the fight, but during the fight you should be trying to finish it. Jones could have finished that fight at any point during the 4th and 5th rounds. He just never fully went for the TKO.

I dont know when you saw this. Glover was hurt but wasnt in any danger to be finished in the 4th or 5th. Glover is as tough as they come. Ive never heard someone accuse Jones of not going for a finish. Especially when he's finished over 70% of his UFC fights.

[blackceasar]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

I'm not mad about Jone's finishing the last round the way he did. I don't think some critics realize just how much KO power Glover has in both of his hands. Even with Clover being gassed after round 3 (which I predicted he'd start getting tired), all it would take is one good solid punch to potentially knock Jones out. Who want's to get KO'ed at in the last round when you dominated for the first 4 pretty much? I'm not mad at Jones at all. It would be different if he were fighting someone that wasn't so heavy handed but dudes like Glover and Johnny Hendrix, Dan Henderson and Big Country just need one well placed punch to knock you out.

[Thrash13]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

Wont happen beacuse he trains with Evans and Glover and Jimi are coming off losses. He will probably fight the winner of Bader/Feijao since he wants to take it slow and not be pushed for a title shot so quickly.

Good call on Evans, but I really don't agree whatsoever on Glover and Jimi. Those guys lost to the two best LHW fighters on the planet. Either would be a step up compared to the winner of Bader/Feijao, but that's just my opinion.

[redsrule]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

I think Rumble vs the winner of Hendo/Cormier for a title shot would be good.

[jeremym480]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

I think Rumble vs the winner of Hendo/Cormier for a title shot would be good.

I think that if Cormier beat Hendo he done earned his title shot. Although, personally I would much rather see Cormier verus Rumble and the winner of that gets whoever wins out of Bones & Gus.
If not, then I agree with aholbert32... Bader/Feijao winner is really the only thing that makes sense for Rumble. Well, unless they pit him against someone who has lost recently (which they seem to do more now than they used to) - maybe a Glover/Shogun or even someone like Manawa or Te Huna. Any of those fights would be fun to watch.

Regarding Bones' antics, heck I dislike him as much as the next guy, but other than the "finger right in the eye" strategy I can't really fault him for anything that he did against Glover. Did he showboat... maybe a little... but it wasn't really anything to get "up in arms" about, in my opinion.

edit: just saw that Te Huna has dropped to MW and has a fight scheduled against Nate Marquardt. Forget about what I said about him

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

I think Rumble vs the winner of Hendo/Cormier for a title shot would be good.

I don't want to see that. It removes 2 fighters from contention. The LHW division will once again have no depth if Jones wins. Gus would be done for 2 years, Cormier would need 1 year to get back, Hendo probably doesn't have enough time, and Rumble would need ~1.5 years to get back.

[Thrash13]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

I think that if Cormier beat Hendo he done earned his title shot.

I agree and don't think there's any way Cormier doesn't get a title shot with a win over Hendo. That would be a good one for sure, and I'm hoping Cormier beats Hendo to set it up.

Anthony Johnson obviously dominated Phil Davis, but he still needs to win a couple more fights before he's getting a UFC title shot. I'd rather see him face Manuwa or Glover, but it won't surprise me if he gets Bader/Feijao. You never know these days.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

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LOL. The fingers to the face are bull****, but I like his response. Embrace your inner heel, Jon.

[LingeringRegime]

Re: UFC 172 - Jones v. Glover - April 26 - Baltimore

I love his impression of his haters too.

Even if they deducted a point after the pokes vs Glover, it wouldn't have mattered. He dominated that fight. Eye pokes weren't the reason he won.