UFC 228: Woodley v Till

[Dave_S]

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Whoa Miller and Sanchez got Ws? How? Especially Diego... he just looked so bad lately, I can’t imagine him getting the W outside a fluke KO. Gonna have to watch it

Tackle and grapple. Opponent had no answer, he was much better striker than Diego.

[Sails]

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They wanted a more marketable WW champ and they are probably pissed Till lost tonight.

I cant wait to see them interview Dana White, just to see the expression on his face.

[Sails]

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Side note is Mendes vs Zabit not one of the most badass FW fights in a while?

Would be a fascinating matchup.

I think Mendes could out wrestle Zabit, or KO him. But Zabit could win in about 46 other ways, so it’s fascinating.

I don't know why but I'm not completely sold on Zabit yet. He's good yes but can he beat Frankie, Ortega, Mendes, Jose Aldo, Jeremy Stephens or the champ. I don't know.

[Phillyboi207]

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Being said, Till is no McGregor. A lot of people including myself may have been thinking Till is a McGregoresque character with the forward pressure southpaw swag, but there’s a huge difference. Till’s tools are extremely limited, even his left is a bit wild and loopy. He seems like he has the presence, has he size, has he confidence, has the phantom pressure... but lacks the tools. Woodley just did exactly what he said he would... beat him everywhere and beat him with experience.

I know it’s easy to say after the fight... but we shoulda known, guys. This was a bit of a mismatch. Till beat an over-the-hill LW, and arguably lost to Thompson. Woodley has been getting Ws against top level competition.

McGregor vs Khabib is the REAL fight of 2018. A super competitive, well matched fight. McGregor has the presence and pressure, but ALSO the tools to back it up. Khabib is a 26-0 wrecking machine. That’s a fight that CAN’T disappoint. Till vs Woodley, well, did. It was a mismatch that deep down, we all suspected the fight could turn out to be.

My takeaways from this fight is that

A)Till lacks tools. He isn’t a very smart, or highly skilled fighter. He has the presence, but he’s one dimensional. No spinning kick, no jabs, no lead uppercuts... it’s just a hard wild left.

B) Woodley is for real. And he’s well rounded. And he’s likely the best welterweight in the world. There is some new talent we saw tonight, and some more established guys like Colby and Usman... perhaps they’ll be a better challenge for TWood but as of tonight, Woodley is the best WW.

Lol this is ridiculous

Till has a complete striking arsenal but Woodley is that dangerous. If anyone is dumb enough to open up against him they’re getting slept or taken down.

Honestly this makes me wish Connor did fight Woodley cuz I believe it’d look just like this fight except it’d be over in the 1st.

[WarMMA]

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Lol this is ridiculous

Till has a complete striking arsenal but Woodley is that dangerous. If anyone is dumb enough to open up against him they’re getting slept or taken down.

Honestly this makes me wish Connor did fight Woodley cuz I believe it’d look just like this fight except it’d be over in the 1st.

Yh Till has the tools needed...he just got caught. That's what makes Woodley dangerous against anybody, as he's a counter striker in his own right that has serious power. If you look at the sequence in which he caught Till, that wasn't just some wild swinging. That was a nasty slip counter right hand that floored Till. You can't just charge in on Woodley like that else you run the risk of that happening and Till learned that the hard way.

[Dave_S]

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It's funny Till practically threw nothing in round 1, and in round 2 Rogan says Till should start to attack, and the first offense he threw he got dropped.

That slip was nice by Woodley, and Woodley was prepared for a left high kick. (He blocked the one that was thrown pretty well)

I see some similarities between Till and Conor, but their striking is quite different.

[MacGowan]

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It's funny Till practically threw nothing in round 1, and in round 2 Rogan says Till should start to attack, and the first offense he threw he got dropped.

Yeah. It's like Woodley was saying after the rematch with Wonderboy. People wanted him to attack more.... you don't just "attack" Wonderboy, that's how you get KO'd.

Woodley was saying the same thing about Darren Till VS Wonderboy. He was surprised, he thought Till would rush in and get countered, but he took his time, and played the long game.

Till was doing a similar thing the first round with Woodley. The fight went pretty much the way I thought it would (but with more clinching from Woodley).
Then Till went into the 2nd round with a chip on his shoulder....

This is why you get fights where people land 30 safe strikes in 5 rounds. Cuz if they don't they end up throwing just that one.

[WarMMA]

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Yh. The mistake Till made is he came into Woodley's range and that's when things get dangerous. If you're gonna stand with Woodley, safest strategy is actually the way Wonderboy fought him tbh, even though it was boring. That's why I was saying Till needed to fight the way he did against Wonderboy, pick his shots, attack from distance and be ready for when Woodley explodes. He made the mistake of coming into Woodley's range with the undercut to straight left and Woodley caught him with the outside slip to right hand. And that's a classic counter to the southpaw left hand, which show's Woodley ain't just some guy swinging with a big right hand. His counter game is on point too.

[WarMMA]

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It's funny Till practically threw nothing in round 1, and in round 2 Rogan says Till should start to attack, and the first offense he threw he got dropped.

That slip was nice by Woodley, and Woodley was prepared for a left high kick. (He blocked the one that was thrown pretty well)

I see some similarities between Till and Conor, but their striking is quite different.

He and Conor are similar in that they are both southpaw counter strikers with a similar style of approach (pressuring counter style), but i'd say Conor is better than him with distance management and also a bit quicker. Conor also uses a more varied striking attack with more usage of kicks to maintain range and mix things up. I really thought we would see Till use more kicking last night but then again, he never really got to open up. Used the first round to feel Woodley out and and started to open up in the 2nd and got dropped right away.

[Dave_S]

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Nicco's weight cut sounded ridiculous. People threatened to call the cops at the hotel sauna. I might have also.

[WarMMA]

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Nicco's weight cut sounded ridiculous. People threatened to call the cops at the hotel sauna. I might have also.

Yh sound like her kidneys started to take a dive. The last thing the UFC wants is a dead fighter due to kidney failure as a result of trying to cut too much weight too fast.

[PeterFerguson2]

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Yh sound like her kidneys started to take a dive. The last thing the UFC wants is a dead fighter due to kidney failure as a result of trying to cut too much weight too fast.

Amen. Bad for Dana and the company, not to mention her own health. Did she even realize what effects it could have had on her health?