UFC on ESPN 1: Ngannou v Velasquez

[WarMMA]

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Main event now, Ngannou(~+185) v Velasquez(~-200)

Velasquez is the favorite against Ngannou. He uses more tools to mix up with but his main vulnerability is that he tends to get stunned in fights.

I think Ngannou has a better chance of a finish by KO, but Velasquez will more likely to win by decision imo.

Cain will have to avoid his power early. The first two rounds will be very dangerous for him and thats when he's gonna need to really embrace the grind. If he can get past those first two without getting tagged hard or god forbid starched, I think we'll see him takeover this fight. If Ngannou gets tired, Cains gonna eat him alive in there. Now this is all assuming we see vintage Cain in there. If we see a declined Cain thats struggling, its probably not gonna go well. My fingers are crossed...hope Cain can do it.

[WarMMA]

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Holy **** that power! Man that dude hits hard asf! Cain wasn't out, but he did get dropped bad. The one thing he didn't need to happen smh

[johnmangala]

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Damn that was only ~30 secs. Fox had ~1min for their first main event.

[WarMMA]

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Damn that was only ~30 secs. Fox had ~1min for their first main event.

Yup another short main event. Sux Cain lost. Ngannou just hits so hard man. That's the one thing Cain had to avoid. Even worse he hurt his knee...hope it isn't bad. He was walking so maybe not.

[Good Grappler]

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Damn that was only ~30 secs. Fox had ~1min for their first main event.

Oh wow just realized Cain was the headliner for both ESPN and Fox’s first main events. And he lost both in under a minute. That sucks

[WarMMA]

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Oh wow just realized Cain was the headliner for both ESPN and Fox’s first main events. And he lost both in under a minute. That sucks

Yup. Both quick finishes. Bad luck smh.

[p_rushing]

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Didn't look like Cain got hit much at all. The knee went out without getting touched. Who knows if he can fight again with the injury history. He needs to take some easy fights and see if his body still allows him to win fights.

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[DaisukEasy]

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Didn't look like Cain got hit much at all. The knee went out without getting touched.

You need to watch that again my friend. He definitely got caught clean with a short right uppercut. That hit caused his legs to go limb and put his entire bodyweight on his knee at an awkward angle which blew it out.

[WarMMA]

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Didn't look like Cain got hit much at all. The knee went out without getting touched. Who knows if he can fight again with the injury history. He needs to take some easy fights and see if his body still allows him to win fights.

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Yh hope his leg isn't injured too bad and he can recover quickly and get back in there. But like DaisukEasy is saying though, he did get cracked. There was a short quick right uppercut that clipped him as he was coming in for a td against the fence and thats what caused him to go down in the first place. Then he landed on his leg wrong as he went down and blew the knee out.

[p_rushing]

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You need to watch that again my friend. He definitely got caught clean with a short right uppercut. That hit caused his legs to go limb and put his entire bodyweight on his knee at an awkward angle which blew it out.

Yh hope his leg isn't injured too bad and he can recover quickly and get back in there. But like DaisukEasy is saying though, he did get cracked. There was a short quick right uppercut that clipped him as he was coming in for a td against the fence and thats what caused him to go down in the first place. Then he landed on his leg wrong as he went down and blew the knee out.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/2/18/18229077/cain-velasquez-calls-ufc-phoenix-loss-a-freak-accident-my-knee-gave-out-on-me

Take a look at what Cain said. I agree he did get hit, but he didn't drop from the punches. He got hit, then ducked under a left (this is where his knee popped), then his leg gave out at the same time as he gets hit with a right uppercut.

The other angle showed it better. Most of the punches missed or weren't clean. He also didn't go down or wobble until his knee went out.

I still think he loses that fight, but he did have a chance to take him down. If he fights again, he needs to fight someone outside of the top 10 and get a win and make it through the fight.

[WarMMA]

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https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/2/1...gave-out-on-me

Take a look at what Cain said. I agree he did get hit, but he didn't drop from the punches. He got hit, then ducked under a left (this is where his knee popped), then his leg gave out at the same time as he gets hit with a right uppercut.

The other angle showed it better. Most of the punches missed or weren't clean. He also didn't go down or wobble until his knee went out.

I still think he loses that fight, but he did have a chance to take him down. If he fights again, he needs to fight someone outside of the top 10 and get a win and make it through the fight.

Idk man it's a tricky one. Cain is saying when he stepped his knee gave out, but watching the replay of the fight and seeing him go down just as the uppercut tags him doesn't help this cause. It just still seems to me like the uppercut is the cause of all of this because right as it lands, head snaps and he starts to fall and falls right on it with all his weight. But I see what you're saying still...his leg gave out at the same time it landed...

[p_rushing]

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Idk man it's a tricky one. Cain is saying when he stepped his knee gave out, but watching the replay of the fight and seeing him go down just as the uppercut tags him doesn't help this cause. It just still seems to me like the uppercut is the cause of all of this because right as it lands, head snaps and he starts to fall and falls right on it with all his weight. But I see what you're saying still...his leg gave out at the same time it landed...

Yeah that is the angle to see his leg. The shot definitely hurt him, but it looked like he was going to put his head on the right and take him down. His knee gives out and he is clearly in pain, so he wasn't KO'd. If his knee doesn't go out, maybe he gets the takedown and survives. Another punch or 2 could end it also.

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[Pappy Knuckles]

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I got thrown off a bit this weekend. On Saturday, I was getting myself together for a night of fights only to realize that it was on Sunday. On Sunday night, I got a Luke Thomas update on my phone around midnight that was recapping the event. It had totally slipped my mind at that point, so I'm just now getting up to speed.

A few thoughts:

1. I'm very excited to see what Kron Gracie can string together in the UFC. World class jiu-jitsu and he's not afraid to mix it up. He seemed super confident in there, chill *** dude. He has a bit of an edge to him too. Not that other Gracie's didn't have that, but he's a little different. Kron's got some of that hood swagger in him. I dig it.

2. I can't see eye-to-eye with anyone who doesn't like Paul Felder. To find out he had a collapsed lung is crazy. He took the fight to Vick in a very gritty performance. Vick was talking like he was king of the division his last two fights, back to reality.

3. I enjoyed Fili vs. Jury quite a lot. I remember some booing during that fight, which I don't get, but there's always idiots in the crowd. It was a good technical battle -- Jury showed a lot of toughness but couldn't do enough.

4. Aljo looked great. He seems to be putting it all together at this point in his career. I thought he'd win the fight, but that it would be a lot tougher for him. He throws so many weird angles in there. With the way he mixes things up, it's a tough matchup for most in the division.

5. I'm sure Luque vs. Barberena has been talked about at length in here, but ****! That looked like the evolution of Butterbean/Toughman days. I understand being willing to take a shot to give one, but these dudes didn't seem to care at all. Crazy fight.

6. Manny Bermudez's BJJ looked very strong. He's a long, young kid who looks like he has a ton of potential.

7. When I saw Cain's physique I figured he was gonna lose haha. It's hard to get a gauge on him with how it ended, though. If Francis touches your chin, bad things happen. He has rebounded well from that weird fight with Lewis.