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  • bigbob
    MVP
    • Sep 2007
    • 10471

    #6241
    Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

    My biggest pet peeve with wrestling is people thinking heels can't fight heels, faces can't fight faces.
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    • DonkeyJote
      All Star
      • Jul 2003
      • 9186

      #6242
      Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

      Originally posted by bigbob
      My biggest pet peeve with wrestling is people thinking heels can't fight heels, faces can't fight faces.
      Faces can fight faces, but the crowd tends to be dead for heel vs heel matches.

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      • cima
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2004
        • 13478

        #6243
        Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

        True "faces" and "heels" don't exist anymore because the crowd is full of jackasses who cheer for and boo who they want to.

        If you hadn't watched in awhile and tuned into see Cesaro vs Barrett, you would think it's two faces against each other.

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        • philliesfan136
          MVP
          • Feb 2011
          • 4263

          #6244
          Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

          Originally posted by Jimmy Waterhouse
          True "faces" and "heels" don't exist anymore because the crowd is full of jackasses who cheer for and boo who they want to.

          If you hadn't watched in awhile and tuned into see Cesaro vs Barrett, you would think it's two faces against each other.
          The crowd cheers who entertain them. Is that such a bad thing?

          Doing what they want with some of their bull**** storylines that they shift on to us seems outdated.
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          • reyes the roof
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 11526

            #6245
            Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

            Originally posted by philliesfan136
            The crowd cheers who entertain them. Is that such a bad thing?

            Doing what they want with some of their bull**** storylines that they shift on to us seems outdated.
            I feel like if a heel entertains you, you should still boo him. Eventually, Barrett is going to be turned because of the cheers he is getting from the crowd and it will kill his character when he has to start playing to the crowd.

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            • kingkilla56
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2009
              • 19395

              #6246
              Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

              If the faces weren't such caricatures of a fictional Utopian life, then heels would be boo'd. Heels are the only interesting characters they have. Thats why they are always considering flipping the best heels face. If their faces refuse to have a dark side (read human side) then **** them. Its that simple.
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              • jmillhimes
                MVP
                • Dec 2007
                • 2365

                #6247
                Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                Originally posted by reyes the roof
                I feel like if a heel entertains you, you should still boo him. Eventually, Barrett is going to be turned because of the cheers he is getting from the crowd and it will kill his character when he has to start playing to the crowd.

                I shutter to think of what will happend when they turn Bray Wyatt Face.
                atleast..Its not Delaware

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                • eremiomania
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 935

                  #6248
                  Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                  Originally posted by jmillhimes
                  I shutter to think of what will happend when they turn Bray Wyatt Face.
                  He'll probably start tap dancing while singing Shirley Temple songs, but it's creepy so it's cool.
                  These days I'm less like "Jailhouse Rock" Elvis and more like "dying alone on the toilet" Elvis.

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                  • TheShizNo1
                    Asst 2 the Comm Manager
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 26341

                    #6249
                    Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                    Originally posted by reyes the roof
                    I feel like if a heel entertains you, you should still boo him. Eventually, Barrett is going to be turned because of the cheers he is getting from the crowd and it will kill his character when he has to start playing to the crowd.






                    Originally posted by kingkilla56
                    If the faces weren't such caricatures of a fictional Utopian life, then heels would be boo'd. Heels are the only interesting characters they have. Thats why they are always considering flipping the best heels face. If their faces refuse to have a dark side (read human side) then **** them. Its that simple.
                    The heels just need to work harder. Heyman is a perfect example of someone that everyone loves, yet he still gets boo'd. Same with HHH. I don't put it all on the faces. Even Rock found a way to get boo'd eventually.

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                    • StevenSD
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 1764

                      #6250
                      Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                      Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                      The heels just need to work harder. Heyman is a perfect example of someone that everyone loves, yet he still gets boo'd. Same with HHH. I don't put it all on the faces. Even Rock found a way to get boo'd eventually.

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                      A heel that should be getting boo'd and isn't is just as bad IMO as a face who fails to get a reaction from the crowd.

                      Here's something that's working for Rusev, I really don't like him in general, he's been given the typical anti-American, my country is better gimmick... I just hate seeing that because it's been so overplayed, but you know what? I still don't like seeing him on my TV, and he's on my TV almost every time I watch WWE... thus if in the audience I would boo him.... to make a long story short, even though I hate the gimmick... he's technically over as a heel because I don't like him and want to see him.
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                      • Trevelyan
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1047

                        #6251
                        Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                        Bottom line, they just don't know how to book faces. Every last one is extremely boring. The only reason Bryan got over is because hes such a great wrestler, he doesn't even have a gimmick other than screaming yes.

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                        • StevenSD
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2013
                          • 1764

                          #6252
                          Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                          Eh, to me his gimmick is just being a great wrestler.... he pulls it off well.

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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #6253
                            Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                            Originally posted by StevenSD
                            It takes something special to push them both...

                            But Hart/Austin is a different realm, and it's hard for me to get that comparison. Yes both were hot, but at the time Austin was heel and Hart was face, then the double turn. In this scenario, Cesaro has been doing nothing but heel tactics as well as Barret, yes they get great crowd reactions, but the story is essentially heel vs heel.
                            So how does Kurt Angle vs Triple H grab you?

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                            • ubernoob
                              ****
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 15522

                              #6254
                              Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                              So how does Kurt Angle vs Triple H grab you?
                              This man gets it.

                              We can also add early Punk/Hardy, Steamboat/Savage WM3 and plenty more to the list.

                              Good psychology and good matches get both wrestlers over. WWE needs to go back to it's cutthroat survival of the fittest attitude backstage. I don't give a **** if everyone is friends behind the scenes. Make the product the best it can be, by any means necessary.

                              If they're good enough to hold their spot/want to move up, neither of them will lose momentum. That's like saying why bring in a legitimate quarterback when you have a decent starting QB already. If these guys aren't pushing each other, why should I care about them?
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                              • DonkeyJote
                                All Star
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 9186

                                #6255
                                Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

                                Originally posted by ubernoob
                                This man gets it.

                                We can also add early Punk/Hardy, Steamboat/Savage WM3 and plenty more to the list.

                                Good psychology and good matches get both wrestlers over. WWE needs to go back to it's cutthroat survival of the fittest attitude backstage. I don't give a **** if everyone is friends behind the scenes. Make the product the best it can be, by any means necessary.

                                If they're good enough to hold their spot/want to move up, neither of them will lose momentum. That's like saying why bring in a legitimate quarterback when you have a decent starting QB already. If these guys aren't pushing each other, why should I care about them?
                                I agree to a point. But it's about timing. I mean, hell, Cesaro lost last night. He's fine. But I don't think the timing on a Cesaro/Barrett thing is quite right.

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