The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

[WWF80sKid]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

I can't help but remember last year, CM Punk getting the match, and everyone hoping he'd be the one to end the streak.

At this point if Taker were to lose the streak, it wouldn't surprise me if it were The Rock... I mean it's still the WWE we're talking about.

I thought more than anyone that it should have been Punk.

I don't think it should be anyone that had already lost to Taker at WM, so that rules out Punk, Orton and HHH just to name a few.

I remember back in the day thinking Ken Kennedy or MVP could possibly do it. Dodged a bullet there.

[TDO]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

fwiw I was flipping through the channels (can't remember which one) but had an EC commercial on one and it had punk in it.

Now, I'm a huge Punk fan and I don't think he'll be back. I also think WWE would have pulled anything with him advertising wise, but like with the shirts who knows.

I don't post this to try and stir anything up, what i saw was real, but it is what it is. I live in the boonies, maybe they played the wrong commercial, maybe they just want to draw peeps in even though he wouldn't apear, or who knows.

Just thought i'd contribute after noticing that early today.

[nate1986]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

I do hate smarks too at least people here are more civil on Facebook all you see is we want punk in every comment

[woody2goody]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

Those people on Facebook are just marks, there's no 'smart' about them!

Haha no I have to disagree with whoever said Orton is an average wrestler. He has amazing timing and on his day can be up there with the very best because of his talent.

Batista never has sucked either. Yeah he'd not a scientific wrestler but a lot of so - called hardcore fans seem to think you have to he a great mat technician to be at the top of the card, hence the tired arguments about Cena and Batista.

I've never been a massive Batista fan but he definitely doesn't suck.

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

[daniel77733]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

First, I want to watch WRESTLING matches with WRESTLERS who can actually WRESTLE.

Second, Cena will never ever get buried and he lost at SummerSlam to Bryan. That didnt hurt him at all and since most arenas are 50/50 towards Cena, him losing isnt going to hurt him whatsoever.

Third, Sandow is what? A mid-carder? Losing one isnt burying him and didnt he lose when he cashed in the MITB anyway?

Fourth, HHH giving Bryan a pedigree after the match would have made sense because he wanted Orton to win which is why he cashed in his MITB last after Bryan already wrestled two matches.

Fifth, The Batista/Orton main event at WM is going to suck unless they make it a street fight or something. An average champion losing to a below average muscle bound stiff who's being given the belt for no apparent reason whatsoever.

Sixth, if anything, not having Bryan win the title at WM is eventually just going to piss off fans and not have them care (like me) and when you dont, you dont spend money on their product.

Seventh, I rarely watch or post about WWE because quite honestly I want to see awesome wrestling matches. There's no way in hell that an Orton/Batista match would be better than having a Bryan/Punk match. Come on. I'm a wrestling fan, NOT an entertainment fan.

Eighth, if it wasnt for WWE Network being cheap and wanting to watch all the old school PPV's since I missed a lot of them back then.

And on a final note, I dont care what WWE does or doesnt do. I lost interest over a decade ago and its not coming back. Wanting to watch all the old school PPV's over watching the current product should tell people something.

[nate1986]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

Those people on Facebook are just marks, there's no 'smart' about them!

Haha no I have to disagree with whoever said Orton is an average wrestler. He has amazing timing and on his day can be up there with the very best because of his talent.

Batista never has sucked either. Yeah he'd not a scientific wrestler but a lot of so - called hardcore fans seem to think you have to he a great mat technician to be at the top of the card, hence the tired arguments about Cena and Batista.

I've never been a massive Batista fan but he definitely doesn't suck.

Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk

That's true those people on Facebook are not smart, just because their Indy darling leaves and even with the facts out there they assume WWE is at complete fault

I went as far to challenge those marks would there be an outcry like that if someone like Cena or Sheamus walked out like that

[SmashMan]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

First, I want to watch WRESTLING matches with WRESTLERS who can actually WRESTLE.

Second, Cena will never ever get buried and he lost at SummerSlam to Bryan. That didnt hurt him at all and since most arenas are 50/50 towards Cena, him losing isnt going to hurt him whatsoever.

Third, Sandow is what? A mid-carder? Losing one isnt burying him and didnt he lose when he cashed in the MITB anyway?

Fourth, HHH giving Bryan a pedigree after the match would have made sense because he wanted Orton to win which is why he cashed in his MITB last after Bryan already wrestled two matches.

Fifth, The Batista/Orton main event at WM is going to suck unless they make it a street fight or something. An average champion losing to a below average muscle bound stiff who's being given the belt for no apparent reason whatsoever.

Sixth, if anything, not having Bryan win the title at WM is eventually just going to piss off fans and not have them care (like me) and when you dont, you dont spend money on their product.

Seventh, I rarely watch or post about WWE because quite honestly I want to see awesome wrestling matches. There's no way in hell that an Orton/Batista match would be better than having a Bryan/Punk match. Come on. I'm a wrestling fan, NOT an entertainment fan.

Eighth, if it wasnt for WWE Network being cheap and wanting to watch all the old school PPV's since I missed a lot of them back then.

And on a final note, I dont care what WWE does or doesnt do. I lost interest over a decade ago and its not coming back. Wanting to watch all the old school PPV's over watching the current product should tell people something.

I like that the first point implies that others here don't want to watch WRESTLERS WRESTLE.

I'm not sure how in this fantasy SummerSlam scenario, having Daniel Bryan win three straight matches (two against 'unplanned' opponents) doesn't make those MITB guys look weak. "Well, Sandow lost anyway" isn't necessarily a counter to that.

It's also weird that in point six, you say you won't spend money on the product...but it appears that you'll be dropping $60 on the Network? No matter what you're watching on the Network, you're supporting the WWE product.

It's tough to take any of this seriously when you say you want to see wrestling, but ignore that the in-ring talent right now is probably the best it's ever been. A lot of the characters are lacking compared to the past, no doubt...but the matches week-in and week-out are fantastic.

[BDKiiing]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

Some anonymous WWE employees take on the Punk situation. Spoilered for inappropriate language.

Spoiler

"Honestly, Punk is being a little bitch. I liked him so much before his run leading to and after that Money in the Bank in Chicago. He's a guy where you have to be really in his circle for him to I guess open up, which I understand, but being put in a feud with Kane and then with HHH at Mania is not a bad thing. Now I understand he feels this is his last Mania and he wants to main event and really, with the right storyline, that match could main event, but literally after the Tribute to the Troops incident he's just been difficult. There are so many there that want his spot, that want to say, 'I need a weekend off to go to UFC.' I really and fully believe he's a little jealous of the crowd reactions to Bryan and it's getting to him—He's just been such a dick lately. That interview with Ariel, he acted like he was the victim at the Troops taping when Michelle was just joking. Little bitch AJ took it to the wrong level. Do you really think AJ would have a 'pipe bomb' interview time or longest Diva champ BS if she wasn't dating Punk? Punk really doesn't want to be the face of the company. That's BS. I hate hearing that ****. He says he does but this isn't ROH or OVW. He would bitch so much if he had to do Michael & Kelly at 9 a.m., then fly to a different state (for Raw), do a Make-A-Wish at 1 p.m. and then RAW, then do SmackDown, then do something Wednesday to fly home Thursday to be on the road Friday or Saturday. No way he could handle that for four months. He may come back as soon as Monday or he may never come back, but if never comes back he better remember how many fans he's f***ing over right now, the same way he believes the WWE is f***ing him over. And I'm not defending Vince or HHH. Especially HHH, because people are seeing that HHH taking over isn't as cool as they thought it would be. Outlaws, Nash, X-Pac, Flair, HBK, Batista—yeah must be nice to be HHH friends."

[bigbob]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

Whenever I read that earlier, I don't know why but I got Randy Orton out of it.

[WWF80sKid]

The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

Whenever I read that earlier, I don't know why but I got Randy Orton out of it.

I can't get a feeling who it may be.

Except Skinner.

[reyes the roof]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

This article was actually pretty good. I do agree with Vince returning to the actual authority figure. Not just on TV, but behind the scenes

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/wwe-nee...0589--spt.html

I'd rather there be no authority figure on TV on a regular basis, like when Jack Tunney was in charge, but you only saw him when something happened like the million dollar man trying to buy the title, but I don't think we'll ever go back to those days. I do agree with the part about Vince being a great authority figure because people will tune in to see him get humiliated. HHH and Stephanie to me are no different than Vicki Guerrero, when I see them I turn the channel or fast forward if I've DVRd the show. What made Mr McMahon a great character, was the fact that he wasn't afraid to be humiliated on TV on a regular basis. I can't see that happening with HHH

[WWF80sKid]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

Bring back Money in the Bank at WM. Have Daniel win it and cash in after the main event. Man the people would leave happy.

[Ice_Cold345]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

First, I want to watch WRESTLING matches with WRESTLERS who can actually WRESTLE.

We all want to watch wrestlers wrestle, but that's not WWE's business 100%. They are about entertaining, hence the E in WWE, which involves storylines, characters and wrestling and combining them into one thing known as the WWE. Just forcing guys who are the best technical wrestlers doesn't cut it, because if there is no story, why should we care? If we wanted to watch pure wrestling, that's pretty much what ROH is.

Second, Cena will never ever get buried and he lost at SummerSlam to Bryan. That didnt hurt him at all and since most arenas are 50/50 towards Cena, him losing isnt going to hurt him whatsoever.

Third, Sandow is what? A mid-carder? Losing one isnt burying him and didnt he lose when he cashed in the MITB anyway?

Having a guy cash in after going through a match with the top dog and another cash-in (in what ever order) is going to hurt the credibility of that MITB holder. He couldn't beat a guy that went through basically 30 - 40 minutes of intense matches, that would hurt said MITB winner, because it makes him look weak and why should he get another shot if he couldn't beat them, especially in your scenario of two 10 minute matches after his Cena match. That also hurts Cena a tiny bit because it shows that he really didn't damage Bryan that much after a 30 minute match between the two.

Fourth, HHH giving Bryan a pedigree after the match would have made sense because he wanted Orton to win which is why he cashed in his MITB last after Bryan already wrestled two matches.

Fifth, The Batista/Orton main event at WM is going to suck unless they make it a street fight or something. An average champion losing to a below average muscle bound stiff who's being given the belt for no apparent reason whatsoever.

Yes, having Bryan lose to Orton after a pedigree from HHH makes sense since he was going to be the "face of the WWE."

Batista is getting the belt because, at least this is my prediction, is that he's really the Triple H guy that should be the "face of the WWE." Orton has failed HHH a few times in the past months as champion, so Triple H moves to the other blue chipper from Evolution, Batista. He becomes the "face" since Orton has failed him, so Triple H will move it to a guy he can trust and knows can beat Daniel Bryan. Orton's lost to Bryan a couple of times, so how can Triple H really trust him in a match, where as Batista can be trusted more.

Yes, it's a bit of fantasy booking, but it's a much more realistic possibility than forcing two guys who YOU like into a pure wrestling match, just to fit what you like.

Sixth, if anything, not having Bryan win the title at WM is eventually just going to piss off fans and not have them care (like me) and when you dont, you dont spend money on their product.

Seventh, I rarely watch or post about WWE because quite honestly I want to see awesome wrestling matches. There's no way in hell that an Orton/Batista match would be better than having a Bryan/Punk match. Come on. I'm a wrestling fan, NOT an entertainment fan.

Eighth, if it wasnt for WWE Network being cheap and wanting to watch all the old school PPV's since I missed a lot of them back then.

Bryan can still not win the title and still leave fans happy. If you have him defeat Triple H, the man who's been putting thing after thing in his way and screwing him over, people would go crazy (and smarks would go crazy because Triple H "never" puts anyone over.)

See my first comment.

Also, Bryan is a guy that the title doesn't make much sense on, because his story would get passe really quickly in "being the underdog" when he's the champ, which is what Bryan is best at, especially being undersized.

Like SmashMan said, if you don't actually care for the product, why are you buying WWE Network for $60? You buying it, shows that you care for the product enough to spend $10 a month on buying something they are selling. If you truly didn't care, you wouldn't spend a dime on it.

And on a final note, I dont care what WWE does or doesnt do. I lost interest over a decade ago and its not coming back. Wanting to watch all the old school PPV's over watching the current product should tell people something

If you really don't care for the WWE, then why are you upset over what they are doing? It shows you actually do care about the product if you are putting an effort to complain about what they are doing. Whining about stuff and saying you will stop watching and still continuing to watch the product in some fashion makes your words meaningless.

Like I said earlier, they don't see you buying Network as only for the past PPVs, they see it as you are caring enough about how the current business is as a whole, that you will continue to put money towards their product. You can watch the PPVs on Youtube or by other means, but you are putting down money that is supplying you what is already available and new material, so it shows that you are buying it for the new material.


Well, that was a long post.

[almostbobsaget]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

Not that I am hating the discussion, but every time I see a new post in this thread expecting new "dirt" and then click on it, a small part of me weeps and goes fetal.

[daniel77733]

Re: The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

I like that the first point implies that others here don't want to watch WRESTLERS WRESTLE.

I'm not sure how in this fantasy SummerSlam scenario, having Daniel Bryan win three straight matches (two against 'unplanned' opponents) doesn't make those MITB guys look weak. "Well, Sandow lost anyway" isn't necessarily a counter to that.

It's also weird that in point six, you say you won't spend money on the product...but it appears that you'll be dropping $60 on the Network? No matter what you're watching on the Network, you're supporting the WWE product.

It's tough to take any of this seriously when you say you want to see wrestling, but ignore that the in-ring talent right now is probably the best it's ever been. A lot of the characters are lacking compared to the past, no doubt...but the matches week-in and week-out are fantastic.

When I read people saying that they think the Orton/Batista match will be a good wrestling match, to me, that means those people dont want to watch wrestling simply because they cant wrestle a classic match alone let alone together.

Wouldnt make them look weak. Look at Bryan. He lost to Sheamus at WM two years ago in 30 seconds. Look at him now. Doesnt matter. WWE rarely mentions stuff from the past anyway. Look at Bryan now too. He gets beatdown on what seems to be an every week thing and yet, he's the most popular. Reason Orton and Sandow wouldnt have looked weak because in the end, HHH is helping them. Similar to what actually happened.

True in regards to point six but I figure $60 for six months to watch all the old pay per views is far cheaper than trying to watch them on DVD or worse, VHS. In the last decade, possibly longer, outside of a few DVD sets which were sold once I watched them, I havent purchased anything. Last PPV was WM 2000 when it was $35 or $30. Dont remember which. Compared to those who watch WWE and pay for their product on a regular basis, thats pennies. And im not paying $60 for what they're doing now, im paying $60 for what was done in the past. Watching a few of those ECW ppvs will make up the $60 alone. Everything else is a huge bonus.

I'm not bashing the talent WWE has. I know that they have a lot of great wrestlers but sadly, they're misused. WWE could easily put on great PPV's with great matches but looking at the current rumored card for WM30, its looks like it could be one of the worse cards in WM history. Granted, have to wait and see how it all goes but be honest, it doesnt look as good as it should.