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  • kingkilla56
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    • Jun 2009
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    #3166
    Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
    Or Stone Cold Steve Austin.....

    And nobody after Austin and Rock has had the same impact that the three of them has had yet so that's even more inaccurate.
    Stone Cold and Rock had Hogan status while they wrestled full time? I guess its subjective.
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    • BDKiiing
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      #3167
      Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

      I think Hogan and Cena are in a class of their own. Steve and Dwayne were great and legendary. But Hogan and Cena were beyond that.
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      • TripleCrown9
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        #3168
        Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

        Originally posted by kingkilla56
        Stone Cold and Rock had Hogan status while they wrestled full time? I guess its subjective.
        I would say they did. There's a reason the main event of WrestleMania X8 happened. Just like there's a reason the main event of 28 happened.
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        • ubernoob
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          #3169
          Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          Stone Cold and Rock had Hogan status while they wrestled full time? I guess its subjective.
          Nowhere near it. Stone Cold was the biggest thing in wrestling, but not outside of the industry. The Rock didn't blow up until after he left wrestling.

          I'm with you hear. Cena is all over the place while being a full-time performer.
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          • King_B_Mack
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            • Jan 2009
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            #3170
            Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

            Stone Cold Steve Austin was one of the main catalyst for a boom period in wrestling. John Cena at no point in time has had the cultural impact that Hogan, Stone Cold or The Rock had in their careers. I don't even know how that's a debatable topic honestly.

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            • BDKiiing
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              #3171
              Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

              Originally posted by TripleCrown9
              I would say they did. There's a reason the main event of WrestleMania X8 happened. Just like there's a reason the main event of 28 happened.

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              • King_B_Mack
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                #3172
                Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                Originally posted by ubernoob
                Nowhere near it. Stone Cold was the biggest thing in wrestling, but not outside of the industry. The Rock didn't blow up until after he left wrestling.

                I'm with you hear. Cena is all over the place while being a full-time performer.
                Uhhh what? So people weren't flocking to wrestling in droves to witness Stone Cold and The Rock? The Rock wouldn't have left wrestling if he hadn't become a big deal outside of it. Triple H, The Big Show and Mankind were on Saturday Night Live....let that sink in for a minute. The three of them got to get their faces on SNL because of how big a star The Rock was. The Rock spoke at both the Republican and Democratic National Conventions. I don't think some of you are remembering just how big wrestling and the WWF were in 1997-2001. John Cena's success right now (which is nowhere near what Austin and Rock's was mind you) is a direct result of those two.

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                • BDKiiing
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                  #3173
                  Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                  Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                  Stone Cold Steve Austin was one of the main catalyst for a boom period in wrestling. John Cena at no point in time has had the cultural impact that Hogan, Stone Cold or The Rock had in their careers. I don't even know how that's a debatable topic honestly.

                  Because of what Cena does not just on the screen. There's a reason he's granted the most make a wishes and is the most followed athlete on social media.
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                  • King_B_Mack
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                    #3174
                    Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                    Originally posted by bdolski
                    Because of what Cena does not just on the screen. There's a reason he's granted the most make a wishes and is the most followed athlete on social media.
                    And yet Raw still can't pull a 5.0 rating with him. If Twitter were around at the time I'm pretty sure both of them would have him beat. I can't believe we're even having this conversation right now though.

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                    • BDKiiing
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                      #3175
                      Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                      Uhhh what? So people weren't flocking to wrestling in droves to witness Stone Cold and The Rock? The Rock wouldn't have left wrestling if he hadn't become a big deal outside of it. Triple H, The Big Show and Mankind were on Saturday Night Live....let that sink in for a minute. The three of them got to get their faces on SNL because of how big a star The Rock was. The Rock spoke at both the Republican and Democratic National Conventions. I don't think some of you are remembering just how big wrestling and the WWF were in 1997-2001. John Cena's success right now (which is nowhere near what Austin and Rock's was mind you) is a direct result of those two.

                      Wrestling was huge then. All the way from Steve Austin to Crash Holly. But there was no Hogan or Cena.
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                      • BDKiiing
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                        #3176
                        Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        And yet Raw still can't pull a 5.0 rating with him. If Twitter were around at the time I'm pretty sure both of them would have him beat. I can't believe we're even having this conversation right now though.

                        I can't either. I don't know how there's any dispute that Cena is the second biggest to Hogan.
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                        • Mercury112491
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                          #3177
                          Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                          I've always sorta assumed Cena looks bigger than he actually is because he was alone at the top. He spent almost a decade at the top of the industry with no real challengers to his popularity. Rock and Austin both added too AND detracted from their stars.

                          Stone Cold was EVERYWHERE in main steam culture in the late 90's. He was the face of the company during the WWF's greatest success. That makes him the second most important guy behind Hogan. The WWE has done nothing but remain average at best on Cena's watch. And you certainly don't see Cena t shirts all over high schools and colleges throughout the country.

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                          • DonkeyJote
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                            #3178
                            Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                            The reason Rock and Austin never quite got to that level is that there were two of them. Two mega stars to share the spotlight, so neither one of them ever had to be relied on to that degree.

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                            • King_B_Mack
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                              #3179
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                              Is everyone commenting here aware that without Stone Cold, the WWF goes out of business and there is no John Cena? Without The Rock, there is no WWF for Stone Cold to come back to, and again there is no John Cena. Can somebody define exactly what we're discussing because at this point I honestly don't know unless there's some serious trolling going on here.

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                              • BDKiiing
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                                #3180
                                Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                                Without Hulk Hogan, pro wrestling might not even exist anymore. What's your point?

                                Cena is still bigger than Steve and Dwayne
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