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  • DonkeyJote
    All Star
    • Jul 2003
    • 9186

    #1126
    Originally posted by Cyphre
    The whole title picture is WEAK already....they had to bring back Rock, Taker and HHH just to make WM interesting....and it still sucked (exept HHH vs Taker).....Ironically the demise of WWE started with the fall of WCW....with no REAL competition the WWE creative team has just sat on their asses knowing that wrestling fans have to watch whatever they put out.

    WWE really needs to stop passing the tittles between the same guys and start developing new stars......Alberto Del Rio is the TOP guy to push, and Mistico (Sin Cara), Morrison, Zigler, Barrett and Gabriel are just some of the guys the need to start pushing as top contenters.....they should also bring in Jay Lethal and try to pry away AJ Styles and Beer Money from TNA.
    ADR will get pushed. I bet he wins the strap at SS. Mistico has an extremely long way to go. He does some cool stuff in his matches, but there is no drama, amd they end up a little dull, not to mention we haven't heard him cut a promo yet.

    Morrison is a fringe guy. He's too flashy at times, his mic skills are weak, and he's never found a good finisher.

    Ziggler had a good run, but I don't see him as a main event. All his heat comes from Vicky. Without her he'll struggle to get any heat at all.

    Barrett shouldn't be working with top guys. He's already injured two people with Wasteland. He's about one screw up in the ring on the wrong guy from getting the boot.

    Gabriel will never be a main eventer. He's great in the ring, but he's got the personality of a hermit crab.

    And what has Jay Lethal ever done besides impersonate legends? He does some "kewl" stuff in the ring, but his style wouldn't translate to the WWE at all. AJ Styles has a hard time staying in the main event scene in the "house AJ Styles built". He might be able to get over, but it's more likely he'd be an upper mid card talent. James Storm wouldn't do anything in wwe. Roode could do really well. He reminds me a lot of Triple H - he can talk, he's good in the ring, he can be a heel or a face.

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    • Cyphre
      Rookie
      • Mar 2008
      • 291

      #1127
      Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

      Originally posted by DonkeyJote
      ADR will get pushed. I bet he wins the strap at SS. Mistico has an extremely long way to go. He does some cool stuff in his matches, but there is no drama, amd they end up a little dull, not to mention we haven't heard him cut a promo yet.

      Morrison is a fringe guy. He's too flashy at times, his mic skills are weak, and he's never found a good finisher.

      Ziggler had a good run, but I don't see him as a main event. All his heat comes from Vicky. Without her he'll struggle to get any heat at all.

      Barrett shouldn't be working with top guys. He's already injured two people with Wasteland. He's about one screw up in the ring on the wrong guy from getting the boot.

      Gabriel will never be a main eventer. He's great in the ring, but he's got the personality of a hermit crab.

      And what has Jay Lethal ever done besides impersonate legends? He does some "kewl" stuff in the ring, but his style wouldn't translate to the WWE at all. AJ Styles has a hard time staying in the main event scene in the "house AJ Styles built". He might be able to get over, but it's more likely he'd be an upper mid card talent. James Storm wouldn't do anything in wwe. Roode could do really well. He reminds me a lot of Triple H - he can talk, he's good in the ring, he can be a heel or a face.

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      I know that of all people I mentioned Del Rio is the most polished and will get his push ...although Cena will face Rock at WM for title. But i was talking about building superstars....like they did when their top talent left for WCW....They need to build several credible contenders so the title matches are less predictable.

      As for lethal? He's young and has lots of talent both in ring and entertainment value.....I'm not saying he is a main eventer.....but he can beef up an aging roster and bring in a fresh face.

      AJ and Roode are THE BEST TNA has to offer......unfortunately the egomaniacs running the show will hold them back forever.....and it be a shame that they spend their carrers as mid carders because Sting, Angle and JJ still see themselves as the top of the crop. And that's the real reason why AJ his having a hard time in the house he built....he needs to put that house on the "market" and join the big leagues....

      Storm is decent....but he and Roode together are the best tag in all of wrestling today.....they would give the WWE tag division a much needed boost.....after a while Roode can go solo and main event......Roode can main event right now....TNA is holding him back....and I agree....his talents do resemble that of Triple H.....and he can play both sides
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      • slapnutz2k2
        MVP
        • Apr 2005
        • 1356

        #1128
        Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

        Originally posted by Cyphre
        Storm is decent....but he and Roode together are the best tag in all of wrestling today.....
        +100, they would be so over in the WWE.

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        • goh
          Banned
          • Aug 2003
          • 20755

          #1129
          Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

          Originally posted by bdolski
          Please apply for a job for creative, they gotta get my boy Black in the main event picture, or atleast I want to see Tyler Black vs Mistico, that would be sick.
          I'd love to but I don't have 3 years soap opera experience.

          Originally posted by rangerrick012
          That would be great for SvR...but in reality, you need to have Cena/Orton in the title picture to make the title look legit. Some no name winning the title off of some other no name isn't going to put anyone over, and only would make the title look weak. Having guys like Cena/Orton hold the title is a 'necessary evil' and makes the belt look strong, so that when a guy like Miz or Sheamus does beat them for the title, they look strong as well.
          This is the kind of thinking that got them in this mess to begin with. How's that working out in the Florida retirement home? As long as the matches are good and there's no reason they shouldn't be with those particular examples and the fueds built well...none of this Punk/Orton crap that just went on...then it doesn't hurt anything. The main titles are going to be in the crapper again because the matches aren't going to be that good and the undercard titles are still in the crapper because of poor fued building. Spent 3 months on Cole/Lawler and they can't figure out what to do with Daniel Bryan.

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          • Cyphre
            Rookie
            • Mar 2008
            • 291

            #1130
            Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

            Originally posted by goh
            Spent 3 months on Cole/Lawler and they can't figure out what to do with Daniel Bryan.
            That Cole/Lawler angle is the worst in Wrestling HISTORY!!! even worse than WCW's Hall tazing Goldberg for Nash to take away title and streak.

            I'm starting to think Russo is secretly writing stuff for WWE again.....LMAO!!!
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            • fpac
              MVP
              • Oct 2002
              • 3830

              #1131
              Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

              Originally posted by Cyphre
              That Cole/Lawler angle is the worst in Wrestling HISTORY!!! even worse than WCW's Hall tazing Goldberg for Nash to take away title and streak.

              I'm starting to think Russo is secretly writing stuff for WWE again.....LMAO!!!
              The Cole/Lawler angle is nowhere close to being the worst in history.

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              • BunnyHardaway
                Banned
                • Nov 2004
                • 15195

                #1132
                Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                Cole/Lawler > Chavo/Hornswoggle

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                • nyj721
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 2258

                  #1133
                  Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                  Originally posted by Cyphre
                  That Cole/Lawler angle is the worst in Wrestling HISTORY!!! even worse than WCW's Hall tazing Goldberg for Nash to take away title and streak.

                  I'm starting to think Russo is secretly writing stuff for WWE again.....LMAO!!!

                  Katie Vick. Thats all I have to say about that.

                  That would be great for SvR...but in reality, you need to have Cena/Orton in the title picture to make the title look legit. Some no name winning the title off of some other no name isn't going to put anyone over, and only would make the title look weak. Having guys like Cena/Orton hold the title is a 'necessary evil' and makes the belt look strong, so that when a guy like Miz or Sheamus does beat them for the title, they look strong as well.
                  Having the title change within 5 days of having Christian winning for the first time does more harm than good regardless of who wins it. I do agree that Cena was due for a title run though. People should realize that 8 months is a long time between reigns for the top guy.
                  Originally posted by slickdtc
                  I'd ride his bus, that's all I'm saying.

                  No context needed

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                  • rangerrick012
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 6201

                    #1134
                    Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                    Originally posted by nyj721
                    Having the title change within 5 days of having Christian winning for the first time does more harm than good regardless of who wins it. I do agree that Cena was due for a title run though. People should realize that 8 months is a long time between reigns for the top guy.
                    Agreed...but if this turns into a long Orton/Christian feud and Christian ends up winning it back from Orton at some point, it would help him even more. That being said, I don't have much faith in that given Vince's history of lack of faith in Christian, no pun intended.
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                    • HealyMonster
                      Titans Era has begun.
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 5992

                      #1135
                      Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                      Not sure if its been posted yet here, but apparentyl the wwe title match at over the limit will be Miz vs Cena in an I quit match.

                      My question is this: Do heels ever win I quit matches? I mean, of all the matches to have, an i quit match seems like the least likely match in the world the miz could win vs john cena.

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                      • Marino
                        Moderator
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 18113

                        #1136
                        Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                        Originally posted by RiderGH
                        Not sure if its been posted yet here, but apparentyl the wwe title match at over the limit will be Miz vs Cena in an I quit match.

                        My question is this: Do heels ever win I quit matches? I mean, of all the matches to have, an i quit match seems like the least likely match in the world the miz could win vs john cena.
                        The only time I could remember was when The Rock beat Mankind in the I Quit match.

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                        • Santino
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1296

                          #1137
                          Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                          Originally posted by RiderGH
                          Not sure if its been posted yet here, but apparentyl the wwe title match at over the limit will be Miz vs Cena in an I quit match.

                          My question is this: Do heels ever win I quit matches? I mean, of all the matches to have, an i quit match seems like the least likely match in the world the miz could win vs john cena.
                          Originally posted by Marino
                          The only time I could remember was when The Rock beat Mankind in the I Quit match.
                          Foley also quit against Flair at SummerSlam 06. Chavo defeated Rey in an I Quit match that same year on SmackDown.

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                          • Qb
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 8797

                            #1138
                            Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                            Originally posted by goh
                            I was defending my opinion when questioned on it.
                            Ok. So how about in 55's smark thread when you spout the same rhetoric when the topic was commerical breaks? You can have your opinion, but we don't need to see it all over the place and off-topic. I don't know what your intentions are, but it leads me to believe you are just trying to stir the pot with people who disagree with you.
                            Last edited by Qb; 05-09-2011, 09:28 AM.

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                            • rdelizo35
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 148

                              #1139
                              Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                              Originally posted by RiderGH
                              Not sure if its been posted yet here, but apparentyl the wwe title match at over the limit will be Miz vs Cena in an I quit match.

                              My question is this: Do heels ever win I quit matches? I mean, of all the matches to have, an i quit match seems like the least likely match in the world the miz could win vs john cena.
                              I Quit matches are the worst for heels because it looks like the card is always stacked against them. The Miz has decent in-ring skills but I will be surprised if he wins.

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                              • GnarlyKing
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 1669

                                #1140
                                Re: The OS WWE Spoilers Thread

                                Originally posted by rdelizo35
                                I Quit matches are the worst for heels because it looks like the card is always stacked against them. The Miz has decent in-ring skills but I will be surprised if he wins.
                                I'm pretty sure that the guy who gets back up from everything and sells a bunch of shirts with "Never Give Up" written on them is never going to lose an "I Quit" match.

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