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[Jukeman]

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Haha...I'm no where NEAR being good with this game. I just think it's too easy and the attributes of the wrestlers don't affect the gameplay (match) as much as they should. Like I said though, I think CPU vs CPU gives great matches, and usually the "correct" wrestler winds up winning, but HUM vs CPU is another story.

Oh, while I'm here, I thought I read that there were "pre-match" games (shoving, etc)? Am I missing something or were those taken out at the last minute? or?

yea, I just noticed that....I think that was in 06(the last SVR Ive owned) companies really need to stop removing stuff from these games man, they dont even have the dbl 10 count when both wrestlers are out cold anymore....You would think after 4 installments they will build on the new features instead of taking them out...

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Alright with Jukeman's sliders with everything maxed I had no problem with 2 closely rated wrestlers using Cena to beat Orton it wasn't easy but I never thought I was in danger of losing. Took about 8 minutes. Did it a couple of times and then used a noticeably lower wrestler in Matt Hardy, rated at 87, to wrestle HBK, rated at 93. HBK won the 1st time but then I beat him twice in about 10-12 minutes but it was back and forth and I was never sure I was gonna win. Never got to use my finisher but at least I got the F flashing.

Best thing about these sliders is there easy to remember. Just move everything to the right except finisher foreign obj strength, move to the left. These aren't the reversals fests that I feared, thanx Jukeman. The only problem is after a few days I'm already playing at the maximum difficulty and beating higher rated wrestlers which is kinda quick considering I haven't played a wrestling game in several years. I don' think I'm that gifted a wrestling gamer. I think the AI is catered to kids who will try and do the same thing over and over. If you mix it up, the AI becomes very predictable. I haven't even played that many hours.

As someone said it doesn't really matter who I use, if you know what you're doing it's a sure formula for success, attributes have little influence. I had my Bulldog CAW from a download rated a 41 and I beat Goldust pretty easily who's rated a 75 I think.

[Jukeman]

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Yea I fear after a couple more days of playing I will be unbeatable when facing the AI, hopefully turning the reversal icon and the hud to off will help......I think the AI was more aggresive in 06...sigh

To bad online isnt good

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Yea I fear after a couple more days of playing I will be unbeatable when facing the AI, hopefully turning the reversal icon and the hud to off will help......I think the AI was more aggresive in 06...sigh

To bad online isnt good

Yikes I don't even have the HUD or reversal icon on to begin with, so yeah I can assure that it will be getting easier for you. I think you get trained to fight a certain way and the AI is not sophisticated enough to adjust. I guess at least the AI is not being cheezy on the highest level. Wresting is a hard video game to make that balances AI difficulty without cheating to give you a challenge. At least this was the best try yet.

I'll have a few more more weeks of fun with this and then trade it in when MW2 hits stores. That will take up all my gaming time anyways.

[Steven547]

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They need to add 2 more sliders... AI Learning (similar to NHL 10 where the AI "learns" your tendencies then adjusts accordingly) and AI Aggression (to make the CPU attack more then it does.) I believe with those two sliders, this game would be great.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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They need to add 2 more sliders... AI Learning (similar to NHL 10 where the AI "learns" your tendencies then adjusts accordingly) and AI Aggression (to make the CPU attack more then it does.) I believe with those two sliders, this game would be great.

I don't know how effective this AI learning slider is. In NHL 10 I had it at 6(max) for 10 games and at 0 for 10 games on all star and I had almost the same results for goals scored and wins so I don't how effective it really is.

[Steven547]

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I feel they need something. They can patch in a slider for aggressiveness. EA patched in about 3 sliders for the Fight Night game which helped it out a lot. The AI stands around too much when my guy is groggy. That's whey you would think they would attack.

[Jukeman]

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The AI is actually kind of smart..... Like the manager know when and when not to interfer and the AI actually use all ot their move sets(never seen them use a rope or apron move intentionally in the past versions)

only if the AI stop acting like jobbers and control the fight more, this game couldve been next level and maybe be miles better than No Mercy...

[DorneyDave]

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I'm liking these except the stamina setting. With it all the way turned up it's too blatant. A couple of running moves, and your guy looks like he just ran a 5k.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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They really should have a damage slider so it enables us to have longer matches.

[BayAreaRYder226]

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I wish they attacked you like they do when you got a Finisher. Because right when you get special they just attack you and won't let you do anything. Its nice for a change, but to have to wait to get special to see the CPU do offense sucks.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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hey do you have stamina on?

Im enjoying these, they give me "WWE" style matches...Not that much of a reversal fest, its more "scripted" like......I dont see back to back to back arm locks and back flips like years past, infact I did a top rope cross body but my opp cought me instead! You really have to progress from stikes to strong grapples as the match drags on

Options

Diff- Any Turning off HUD, Rev Meter are other good ways to bump diff level)
Kick out system- Original
Momentum bar- Slow
Stamina- On

AI Reversal Balancing

Stand Strike- MAX high
Stand Grapple- MAX high
Ground Stike- MAX high
Ground Grapple- MAX high
Finisher Reversal- MAX high
Foreign Attack Rev- MAX high

Damage Balancing

Finisher Strenght- 0 low
Foreign Object Str- 0 low

Game Balancing

Stand Strike- MAX easy
Stand Grapple- MAX easy
Ground Strike- MAX easy
Ground Grapple- MAX easy
Finisher Reversal- MAX easy
Foreign Object Rev- MAX easy
Mom Rate Action- MAX high
Mom Rate Attack- MAX high
Mom Rate Taunt- MAX high
Stamina Rate- MAX high (wrestlers will sell better)

[Jukeman]

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hey do you have stamina on?

Yup

[BoA]

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I have tried so many different variations of settings, but the matches are just far too short. the CPU AI is severely lacking and not nearly aggresive enough. As soon as I get momentum and hit a finisher even 3-4 minutes in, it's over.

The other features of the game are great, but this redundant and mediocre gameplay is making the game go stale fast for me.

I hope everyone else is still enjoying it, but I am getting bored quick as I can not have a long and challenging match.

I'm not saying that there should be tons of kickouts of finishers, but some drama and excitement in a match would be nice.

[Jukeman]

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Thin this can get patched? More aggressive AI...