Hell In A Cell 2010 - 10/3/10

[TimmeH]

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There's nothing wrong with going PG long-term. You can still do mature-based angles ... WWF did in the 80's when they were PG (sucking in kids like me to the product). If you watch the Megapowers storyline unfold, it has a lot of adult themes to it, without being over the top. Very well thought out and executed.

WWE does need to build up a younger demographic, much like they did in the 1980's. Get kids interested young and then adapt with them as they grow older. We loved WWF in the 80's because we were mostly in our tweens and by the time the late 90's rolled around, most of us were in college or out of college and wanted something with more bite and edge to it. Makes sense for WWE to try and repeat that cycle.

The only thing I don't like is the no blood policy. Especially when you have a PPV that's based around HIAC, you should have someone juice, as it does help get the stipulation and match over.

I have nothing wrong with the PG product. I don't even mind the lack of blood.

My main gripe is how they always book the faces to overcome the odds so drastically. I understand the face in peril booking, but a person should not get their *** kicked for 15 minutes, then hit two moves and win the match. That bothers me.

And the other thing that bothers me is the stupid crap like a light from an urn blinding a competitor. That's a bit much for me.

Otherwise, I have nothing wrong with the PG Era. Compare the IC Title match from WM XV to the US Title match tonight and tell me there's any comparison. Tonight blew it out of the water. The in-ring product is great these days. It's just the finishes that oftentimes bother me.

[OSUFan_88]

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Meh, I'd argue that PG WWE has put on a better in-ring product than we may have seen at any time in the WWE.

I'll agree that the storylines are lame at times(see Kane-Taker tonight), but I think it'll work out in the long run.

Right now, they're trying to stay clean for Linda's campaign. Also, they're trying to gain a new youth fan base that will be fans for years to come. It's not much different than how many of the fans of the Attitude Era were also fans during the late 80s/early 90s when things were very family oriented.

I think WWE will get more risque again in the future. Alot of it depends on how Linda's campaign goes. If she ends up pulling off the upset(which seems very possible at this point), we maybe stuck with the PG era for a few more years. But if she doesn't win, I think Vince will get more edgy sooner than later. The rating, buyrates, and attendance are calling for a change of some sort.

Linda is going to need a lot to win, trust me...

Anyway to the recap *and I have so much to say about the end but let's wait...*

Miz/Bryan/Morrison was my most entertaining match of the night really good match and showcased, IMO, all three of them equally. Bryan is a friggin beast.

Orton v Shameonus...ugh, they fell in love with the stairs and it produced a boring match IMO. Also, the underlaying "there is no way in hell Orton loses" thing was a cloud over the match. Super Orton is much more annoying than Super Cena.

Edge v Swagger...why did this happen again? Not like I really care, because Swagger is just not very interesting in or out of the ring. He's like the ******** version of Angle. Seems like this was just a match to make Edge still look something like a strong wrestler.

Cena v Barrett was freaking fantastic. Cena was his usually boring self and Barrett was decent, but the whole story was very well done. Certainly the highlight was Husky Harris and, I ***-U-ME that was Migillicutty or however the hell you spell it, interfering. They did a great job of making it look real at first then when I saw Husky Harris, I freaking marked. I hope this is it, though. We don't need to go NWO and have everyone join it.

Nattie is so lonely...she is the Trish of her generation, meaning she is the only one who can friggin wrestle. What happened to Beth Phoenix anyway?

Kane v Taker.........

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Let me preface this by saying that the match itself was a typical Taker Kane match, in which they do not gel and it's kind of meh. This one was probably the best Taker-Kane match of them all because a lot of people thought this was the end of the feud of 13 years. So we get all the finishers and everything, Paul Bearer gets dragged into the ring by <del>his son</del> Kane and Taker sits up. We all ***-U-ME that it's over as soon as Kane turns and we get the tombstone...but then...

WHAT IN THE NAME OF **** WAS THIS ****NESS?! Seriously, I have been watching wrestling for 20+ years and I have seen it pretty much all, from Shane getting his balls electrocuted by a battery and Katie Vick, but this garbage takes it all. Seriously, WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!? I guess what happened was that Paul opened the urn and that was "the power of the urn" but...wait, no, "the power of the urn" is supposed to be evil, fueling Taker. However, they open the urn and...it's light? The light of what? Taker sells the light the best he can *because after all, HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO SELL LIGHT?!* and somehow loses. But what was the light? We are never given the explanation of what the light was, nor is the urn ever built up to be something that could vanquish Taker. So...what? What was it? Was it Taker's parents talking to him from the grave? Was it God? Was it Zuul? I mean seriously, what the hell was that? I just...man....

Just when I think I see it all, the WWE pulls that. That was the cheesiest, dumbest, most incoherent thing I have ever seen. We get no explanation and instead we need to formulate our own ideas...well my idea is that I am going to pretend that didn't exist and instead Paul Bearer just smashed Taker in the back of the head with the urn. Game over.

Overall, the PPV was pretty good until we got the power of the flashlight.

[Santino]

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Just when I think I see it all, the WWE pulls that. That was the cheesiest, dumbest, most incoherent thing I have ever seen. We get no explanation and instead we need to formulate our own ideas...well my idea is that I am going to pretend that didn't exist and instead Paul Bearer just smashed Taker in the back of the head with the urn. Game over.

You must have missed Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Also the countless times before that we've seen light come from the urn.

[OSUFan_88]

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You must have missed Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Also the countless times before that we've seen light come from the urn.

I honestly do not ever remember light coming from the urn. Or, at least the evil demon light that killed Taker.

And yes, I did forget hand.

[Streets]

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I disagree with most of your review. Orton-Sheamus was a great match (especially in this PG era). Even the biggest Orton haters admit it was a good match (though they give Sheamus the credit).

Swagger is amazing in and out of the ring. Swagger, Punk and Del Rio are by FAR the highlights of Smackdown. I'm not a big fan of actual wrestling (as long as you can entertain me), but that boy can wrestle. Out of the ring, he is hilarious but dangerous at the same time. He has his own personal mascot and a sandwich named after him, as awesome as Angle was he never had the Swagger Soaring Eagle Mascot or the Swaggie.

Also, how is Edge not a strong wrestler? If you meant he's not relevant of late, I agree, but then again that's precisely why this match happened. They are pushing his new gimmick (which the jury is still out on).

I think Beth is injured. Yeah Nattie can wrestle, but so can the Hart Dynasty. It really doesn't matter though if you don't draw. People actually care about LayCool so they go over. They will continue to go over because they are awesome, but being booked against Nattie is genius because she can help make them look good in the ring. McCool is not a bad wrestler by the way.

I think you were the only one who ASSUMED that once Paul Bearer entered the cage Taker would win clean with a Tombstone. I'm sorry. Everyone in here saw that swerve coming a mile away, so you were alone on that one.

Seriously, WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!? I guess what happened was that Paul opened the urn and that was "the power of the urn" but...wait, no, "the power of the urn" is supposed to be evil, fueling Taker. However, they open the urn and...it's light? The light of what? Taker sells the light the best he can *because after all, HOW THE HELL ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO SELL LIGHT?!* and somehow loses. But what was the light? We are never given the explanation of what the light was, nor is the urn ever built up to be something that could vanquish Taker. So...what? What was it? Was it Taker's parents talking to him from the grave? Was it God? Was it Zuul? I mean seriously, what the hell was that? I just...man....

I agree that ending was stupid. All of the magic power stuff that they have been doing with these two (disappearing, reappearing, gaining power from urns, etc.) has BEEN stupid. So it is expected that "magic powers" would make their way into this match. It was booked even worse than I could have imagined, but you are thinking WAY too hard trying to make sense of it. I think the main point is Bearer turned and the power is with Kane now (as it should be).

Like I said, I disagree with a lot (as usual), but that's what makes the WWE and these forums great. There's something out there for everyone, and we can all enjoy eachother's opinions.

[goh]

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But what was the light? We are never given the explanation of what the light was, nor is the urn ever built up to be something that could vanquish Taker. So...what? What was it? Was it Taker's parents talking to him from the grave? Was it God? Was it Zuul? I mean seriously, what the hell was that? I just...man....

Just when I think I see it all, the WWE pulls that. That was the cheesiest, dumbest, most incoherent thing I have ever seen. We get no explanation and instead we need to formulate our own ideas...well my idea is that I am going to pretend that didn't exist and instead Paul Bearer just smashed Taker in the back of the head with the urn. Game over.

Overall, the PPV was pretty good until we got the power of the flashlight.

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[OSUFan_88]

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Also, how is Edge not a strong wrestler? If you meant he's not relevant of late, I agree, but then again that's precisely why this match happened. They are pushing his new gimmick (which the jury is still out on).

I never, ever said Edge is not a strong wrestler...just that recently he has been looking like a bitch.

As for Nattie...well, I'm pretty sure you said that Bret was boring to you in the 90's, so your comment does make sense.

[OSUFan_88]

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Okay...so, how did all of a sudden that light hurt Taker?

Normally, for wrestling, I can suspend a lot of belief but...yeah, I draw the line at a light defeating Undertaker. That's just as stupid as HBK and God vs McMahon.

[Santino]

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Okay...so, how did all of a sudden that light hurt Taker?

Normally, for wrestling, I can suspend a lot of belief but...yeah, I draw the line at a light defeating Undertaker. That's just as stupid as HBK and God vs McMahon.

The light blinded him. It was followed up with an urn-shot and chokeslam that finished him off.

[OSUFan_88]

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The light blinded him. It was followed up with an urn-shot and chokeslam that finished him off.

Perhaps I need to see it again, because it certainly looked like that light did more than just blind him. Or at least that's the way Taker sold it, it seemed.

[GnarlyKing]

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Who can Kane really feud with for the belt on SD now though? There is a major shortage of faces on SD and a lot of heels.

The way he's been steamrolling everyone lately, I'd have to assume Big Show is next.

[goh]

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Nice to see a title survive a fued despite the poor match and ending. I can't remember the last time that happend.

Here is a small childs reaction to Cena losing:

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[OSUFan_88]

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The BW3 I was at was HILARIOUS when Cena lost. Grown men talking **** to young kids, my friends and I clapping because he lost, laughing at children looking like they just lost their puppy...

I'm a cold hearted bastard, I guess, but damn was that awesome...lol

[jvalverde88]

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I thought the HIAC PPV was alright.

Triple Threat match- I somewhat enjoyed the match. I really think they should of just booked a regular triple threat match. The gimmick match kind of ruined the match for me. IMO I honestly feel if it were a regular triple threat, it would have been much much better but thats just me.

Sheamus/Orton- I thought the match was alright but to slow paced for my taste. I honestly was falling asleep during this match (I'm pretty sure Goh was too. )

Swaggah/Edge- I thought it was pretty good for a Impromptu Match, then again what Impromptu matches are actually good.

Barrett/Cena- Hands down the best match of the night, the crowd was very into it and *Gasps* Cena did pretty well carrying a green Barrett. The more I see Barrett wrestle the better he gets, this dude is the future. The reaction of the Cena fans was awesome and priceless. Now thats how you book a match WWE kudos.

Mrs.Calloway/Natalya- This was actually pretty good for a diva's match, which is not saying much. No offense to MM but Natalya is just too good for her to have a match with. Natalya could barely put on a simple roll up on her. Its not a shot at MM (because she's actually the best diva wrestler not named Beth, Melina or Natalya) but more of a praise for Natalya.


Kane/Undertaker- Remember when I congratulated WWE on the Barrett/Cena match? well I take that back. A LIGHT.......A LIGHT, UNDERTAKER's WEAKNESS IS A LIGHT? ARE YOU ****ING KIDDING ME!!!? I rather be in a room alone with Pat Patterson than witnessing this ending. I somewhat enjoyed the match for what it was but the ending was just.......I'm lost for words.

[jvalverde88]

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BTW, The problem with WWE is not the PG rating, but like as all of you saw tonight with the ending, its the booking. The super-human comebacks, the corny skits thats all because of the booking not the TV rating. If CHIKARA can book a very entertaining PG product so can WWE.

And I'm with djwlfpack, I'm not a big fan of the no blood rule. IMO it kind of takes away from the HIAC, cage matches and even rivalries. Hell Hogan bladed back in the day and the product back then was PG, this no blood rule makes no sense.