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  • Fiddy
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    • Jul 2002
    • 12642

    #121
    Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

    this is a game that needs attributes obviously, but no need to show an overall rating IMO.. bc what does an overall rating really do? its not like the WWE shows ratings on their live shows lol.

    oh my gawg, look its a 90 rated Orton vs 65 rated Sin Cara next on Smackdown.

    ha!!
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    • RDZ29
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      • Feb 2011
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      #122
      Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

      Just finished my match

      -50 at Power attributes

      Sliders

      AI Maxed
      Me 0
      Momentum 5 (slow)

      Swagger(me) vs Cena

      match length = 21:52

      Winner = Swagger

      Swagger kicked out of 2 finishers
      Cena kicked out of 2 finishers (reversed 1)

      I beat em with a German Suplex
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      • RDZ29
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        • Feb 2011
        • 140

        #123
        Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

        Ok, i like -50 at power attributes but i rarely ever lose, even on the hardest possible

        and on default attributes, i get shorter matches(still good amount tho), but i actually lose.
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        • RDZ29
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          • Feb 2011
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          #124
          Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

          Im gonna play Swag vs Cena again

          this time, same sliders

          AI MAX
          ME 0
          Momentum 5 (slow)

          But this time, Default attributes and i'll see what happends.
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          • Fiddy
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            • Jul 2002
            • 12642

            #125
            Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

            Originally posted by RDZ29
            Im gonna play Swag vs Cena again

            this time, same sliders

            AI MAX
            ME 0
            Momentum 5 (slow)

            But this time, Default attributes and i'll see what happends.
            what is AI Max? all AI Reverse sliders maxed out?
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            • RDZ29
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              #126
              Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

              Originally posted by Fiddy
              what is AI Max? all AI Reverse sliders maxed out?
              yes

              all ai reversal slider will be at 20
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              • tcrews
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                • Oct 2009
                • 360

                #127
                Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                I just did the same tweak, subtracting power sliders by 50 for every wrestler. Just had a great match as Lesnar Vs. Barrett. I wound up losing, which was awesome. It was just a regular singles match, nothing fancy. I wound up leading the match for the first 6 or 7 minutes, hit an F-5 but he used his ring out ability before I could pin him. I hit my signature, but Wade then reversed the F-5 and gave himself a finisher, which I then reversed as well, giving me a finisher and I finally hit the F-5 again, but he kicked out on a late 2.

                He started gaining momentum and hit his sig and finisher, but I kicked out. We fought a bit more, he reversed my signature, gave himself a ton of momentum in doing so, and outta nowhere, somehow, he had a finisher stored that I hadn't seen active, and he nailed me with his finisher and got the 3 count. Match lasted 14 minutes.

                I think I'll end up moving a few more things around, but as a first move, I think everyone should try this if they're seeking longer, more realistic paced matches.

                Edit: I almost forgot. Whoever posted on this thread and said that for whatever reason they were seeing more reversals, ones that they hadn't seen before, I couldn't agree more. I'm doing the same match, Lesnar V Barrett. In the first match, he reversed 2 F-5s, in this match, he just reversed my first attempt at an F-5. The greatest part about it? All 3 reversals from the F-5 were ALL different. One was a reverse DDT, one was a spinning/half-tornado type DDT, and he just gave me a huge DDT where instead of going straight from Brock's back to the ground via DDT. He actually grabbed Brock's head, jumped down, planted his feet for a couple seconds, and dropped him with an almost Edgecution type DDT, it was insane. It really does seem to open up the reversals a bit. As a result of those changes, I am so amped while playing right now, never felt this on any next gen wrestling game, ever.
                Last edited by tcrews; 11-26-2011, 02:25 PM. Reason: I forgot something, is that okay? GOSH!

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                • RDZ29
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                  • Feb 2011
                  • 140

                  #128
                  Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                  Originally posted by RDZ29
                  Im gonna play Swag vs Cena again

                  this time, same sliders

                  AI MAX
                  ME 0
                  Momentum 5 (slow)

                  But this time, Default attributes and i'll see what happends.
                  Ok, just finished this match, last time with -50 attributes, i won
                  This time with default attributes, different story. (more realistic story)

                  Swag(me) vs Cena

                  Match Length = 12:23

                  Winner = John Cena

                  I broke out of his first finisher at the 8:30 mark
                  But he put me away with the second FU (AA)

                  I didnt even get to my finisher

                  Once again, on default attributes, i lose a tough one
                  and on -50 attributes, i win

                  I know everyone thinks that the OVR is just a number, but after playing these matches and comparing

                  I think the OVR plays a factor

                  Im now just gonna leave the OVRs (maybe just tweak alittle here and there)
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                  • Fiddy
                    Twitch/YouTube: Fiddy14
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 12642

                    #129
                    Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                    what if you only tweak the power attributes by 20 instead of 50?
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                    • RDZ29
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                      #130
                      Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                      Originally posted by Fiddy
                      what if you only tweak the power attributes by 20 instead of 50?

                      Never tried it, it might make it difference. I'll try and test that out later
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                      • Jukeman
                        Showtime
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 10955

                        #131
                        Originally posted by RDZ29
                        Ok I did this same idea, one match default rosters, and the same match with -50 at the Power attributes. Used same Sliders for both matches (of Course)

                        Default Game
                        Ricky Steamboat(me) vs Eddie

                        Match Length = 11:09
                        Winner = Eddie
                        We each kicked out of a finisher but he beat me with a powerbomb pin


                        -50 Power Attributes Game
                        Ricky(me) vs Eddie

                        Match Length = 14:27
                        Winner = Ricky
                        I completely owned Eddie this match, it was basically 14 mins of just doing moves on em

                        With the default rosters Eddie was actually a challenge and he beat me, In my experience i think lowering attributes and the actual OVR makes them play worse. This is in my experience tho. I beat Sin Cara with Gabriel with updated attributes but lost with default.

                        Heres what I was playing on btw

                        AI Reversal
                        all 15

                        Damage
                        Default

                        General
                        all reversals = 5
                        Momentum = 5

                        Slow momentum (match creator)

                        After some testing, I think i am just going to leave the default attributes and make some guys better or worse

                        for example, Rhodes and Sheamus could get a attribute boost since there doing quite well in real life.


                        Has anyone else experience easier gameplay with lower OVRs / strike Grappkle Power?
                        Are u playing on Hard or Legend?


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                        Last edited by Jukeman; 11-26-2011, 03:10 PM.

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                        • RDZ29
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                          • Feb 2011
                          • 140

                          #132
                          Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                          Originally posted by Jukeman
                          Are u playing in Hard or Legend?


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                          I've been playing on Legend since Tuesday afternoon
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                          • backagain08
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                            • Dec 2007
                            • 20

                            #133
                            Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                            I made a few adjustments from my set posted on page 11.

                            Roster edits are as follows:

                            Strike/Grapple Power: -50
                            Submission: -50
                            Strike/Grapple Defense: No Change (default)
                            Speed: No Change (default)
                            Agility: -10
                            Adrenaline: No Change (default)
                            Recovery: -50
                            Durability: MAX
                            Charisma: i wouldn't get higher than maybe 25, so i changed The Rock's and Undertaker's Charisma to 25. Cena, Miz, Punk, Orton to 20. And the others to status (like main eventer, mid card, low card) example 15's are HHH, Henry, Big Show etc., 10's are mysterio, morrison, rhodes, etc. ... and so on.)
                            Tag Team: -50

                            SLIDERS:
                            Difficulty: Legend
                            Reversal-Indicator: Off
                            Reversal-Damage: Off
                            Adrenaline: On
                            Blood: Personal preference here
                            Match creator Momentum bar: SLOW

                            A.I. REVERSALS
                            All settings: MAX

                            DAMAGE:
                            Finisher: 15
                            Foreign Object: 10

                            GENERAL:
                            Finisher Reversal: MAX
                            Foreign Object: MAX
                            Momentum Rate Attack: 5
                            Momentum Rate Taunts: 3
                            Adrenaline Rate: MAX
                            All other settings: MIN

                            So this is the set that i'll get good matches and i'll stick with that for now.

                            Maybe someone can try this and reply! Enjoy!!

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                            • Jukeman
                              Showtime
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #134
                              Originally posted by backagain08
                              I made a few adjustments from my set posted on page 11.

                              Roster edits are as follows:

                              Strike/Grapple Power: -50
                              Submission: -50
                              Strike/Grapple Defense: No Change (default)
                              Speed: No Change (default)
                              Agility: -10
                              Adrenaline: No Change (default)
                              Recovery: -50
                              Durability: MAX
                              Charisma: i wouldn't get higher than maybe 25, so i changed The Rock's and Undertaker's Charisma to 25. Cena, Miz, Punk, Orton to 20. And the others to status (like main eventer, mid card, low card) example 15's are HHH, Henry, Big Show etc., 10's are mysterio, morrison, rhodes, etc. ... and so on.)
                              Tag Team: -50

                              SLIDERS:
                              Difficulty: Legend
                              Reversal-Indicator: Off
                              Reversal-Damage: Off
                              Adrenaline: On
                              Blood: Personal preference here
                              Match creator Momentum bar: SLOW

                              A.I. REVERSALS
                              All settings: MAX

                              DAMAGE:
                              Finisher: 15
                              Foreign Object: 10

                              GENERAL:
                              Finisher Reversal: MAX
                              Foreign Object: MAX
                              Momentum Rate Attack: 5
                              Momentum Rate Taunts: 3
                              Adrenaline Rate: MAX
                              All other settings: MIN

                              So this is the set that i'll get good matches and i'll stick with that for now.

                              Maybe someone can try this and reply! Enjoy!!
                              I have my slider similar to what you have.

                              Im in between adjusting power attributes tho because Im fine with 8-10 min matches and I also would like to see the comeback feature used without playing a match for 20+ mins.


                              -Edit

                              Looking at my old sliders from the past, its interesting that they all end of coming out really similar.

                              SvR '06- '09


                              IN GAME OPTIONS*
                              - DIFFICULTY- legend (AI will react much better)
                              -MOMENTOM- Fastest (CPU VS CPU on normal)

                              - COM'S USAGE-
                              *standing strike reversal*10 (cant slap cpu around)
                              *standing grapple rev* 5 (Not alot of rev from the cpu)
                              *ground strike rev* 10 ( cant beat them down to death)
                              *ground grapple rev* 5 ( not alot rev from the cpu)
                              * finisher reversal* 20 (IRL finishers aways get rev)
                              * weapons reversal 20 (Attack at the rite time ^^^)
                              * stealing finisher* 3 ( I just hate to see that)
                              * submission A* 10
                              * submission B * 10

                              - DAMAGE BALANCE-
                              * Finisher* 20 (still get kick outs)
                              * weapons* 20 ( trust me ^^)
                              * backstage area* 15 ( more damage ^)

                              - GAME BALANCE-
                              *standing strike reversal* 20 (This is for the user)
                              *standing grapple rev* 20 (^^^^)
                              *ground strike rev* 20 (^^^)
                              *ground grapple rev* 20 (^^^)
                              *weapon reversal * 20 ( easier to counter for user)
                              * finisher reversal* 20 (^^^)
                              *mom rate clean/dirty* 5
                              *mom rate attacks* 5
                              *mom rate taunts* 20 ( dont abuse use as stategy)
                              *stamina rate* 15 ( you and the cpu will loose stamina, will have better drawn out matches, this seperates the game from arcade sim to straight up sim

                              ok here is a quick summary about want these sliders will give you, but first here is a few game tips to help you survive this experience.

                              *Exposing the turnbuckle, then irish whip your opp to it then leap frog him by pressing[ ] will help you pull off aerial moves and aerial finishers quicker*

                              *Abusing the taunt is cheesing when using these sliders, use this as part of a strategy to build momentom instead of just getting a quick special*

                              *Try to weaken the body part that your finisher focus on instead of using the finisher as soon as you get it, being greedy will only give you a 75% chance of hitting it and when you hit it there gonna kick out 75% of the time. with that being said this add more strategy and give you the options of possom pins or stealing taunts*

                              * Try to recharge you stamina as soon as you can, if its not in green. you will see a diff between playing with/against big show and rey rey. your stamina runs out like they do in the real life WWE*

                              QUICK SUMMARY
                              SLIDER RANGE FROM 1-20
                              keep momtentom how I got it( at fastest & taunt at max)If you watch wrestling you will kno that they go for finishers quick but they always get countered, this mirrors that with finisher reverals at max

                              you will not see a whole lot of counters from the cpu like before and vice versa ( if you not good at the counter system, then these are not for you)

                              finishers and weapon reversals may seem like alot but it adds stategy to the game, you just can do a finisher and attack with weapons any time you want but its still possible to do.

                              user finisher and weapons rev at 20, makes it easy for you to counter their finisher moves and weapon attacks.
                              SvR '10

                              Diff- Any Turning off HUD, Rev Meter are other good ways to bump diff level)
                              Kick out system- Original
                              Momentum bar- Slow
                              Stamina- On

                              AI Reversal Balancing

                              Stand Strike- MAX high
                              Stand Grapple- MAX high
                              Ground Stike- MAX high
                              Ground Grapple- MAX high
                              Finisher Reversal- MAX high
                              Foreign Attack Rev- MAX high

                              Damage Balancing

                              Finisher Strenght- 0 low
                              Foreign Object Str- 0 low

                              Game Balancing

                              Stand Strike- MAX easy
                              Stand Grapple- MAX easy
                              Ground Strike- MAX easy
                              Ground Grapple- MAX easy
                              Finisher Reversal- MAX easy
                              Foreign Object Rev- MAX easy
                              Mom Rate Action- MAX high
                              Mom Rate Attack- MAX high
                              Mom Rate Taunt- MAX high
                              Stamina Rate- MAX high (wrestlers will sell better)
                              SvR '11


                              Decrease the following Attributes to "5"

                              -Grappling
                              -Striking
                              -Submission

                              Raise the following Attribute to the MAX

                              -Durability

                              Give every Superstar the following Ability

                              -Durability
                              -Resiliency



                              Legend Difficulty


                              Reversal Damage On
                              Stamina On
                              Blood On

                              Reversal Help indicator- Off
                              Hud Off/Prompt Off


                              AI Reversal Balancing

                              Stand Strike- +10
                              Stand Grapple- +10
                              Ground Strike- +10
                              Ground Grapple- +10
                              Finisher Reversal- +10
                              Foreign Attack Rev- +10

                              Damage Balancing

                              Finisher Strength- -10
                              Foreign Object Str- -10

                              Game Balancing

                              Stand Strike- -10
                              Stand Grapple- -10
                              Ground Strike- -10
                              Ground Grapple- -10
                              Finisher Reversal- +10
                              Foreign Object Rev- +10
                              Mom Rate Action- +10
                              Mom Rate Attack- +10
                              Mom Rate Taunt- +10
                              Stamina Rate- +10
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                              Last edited by Jukeman; 11-26-2011, 05:03 PM.

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                              • RDZ29
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                                • Feb 2011
                                • 140

                                #135
                                Re: SLIDER SETTINGS THREAD

                                Originally posted by backagain08
                                I made a few adjustments from my set posted on page 11.

                                SLIDERS:
                                Difficulty: Legend
                                Reversal-Indicator: Off
                                Reversal-Damage: Off
                                Adrenaline: On
                                Blood: Personal preference here
                                Match creator Momentum bar: SLOW

                                A.I. REVERSALS
                                All settings: MAX

                                DAMAGE:
                                Finisher: 15
                                Foreign Object: 10

                                GENERAL:
                                Finisher Reversal: MAX
                                Foreign Object: MAX
                                Momentum Rate Attack: 5
                                Momentum Rate Taunts: 3
                                Adrenaline Rate: MAX
                                All other settings: MIN

                                So this is the set that i'll get good matches and i'll stick with that for now.

                                Maybe someone can try this and reply! Enjoy!!
                                just played with these sliders but with default attributes(personal preference)

                                Daniel Bryan(me) vs Wade Barrett

                                match length = 13:59
                                Winner = Wade Barrett

                                Good match, i kicked out of the first Wasteland at the 8 min mark, then i did my comeback , put on the Lebell Lock but he crawled to the ropes. Later he won with another Wasteland
                                #HEEL
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